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Orewa , Auckland , N.Z.
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Crystal Serenity and Disney Wonder, both docked in Ketchican , Alaska


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Originally posted by MMDown Under
I was told by taxi driver in Ketchikan most people are only there for the Season, then they return to Mexico.
Yes Ketchikan, Skagway etc on the Alaskan cruise route are very busy in summer, crows cannot fit on the footpaths, all over the road. In winter they are ghost towns.

When we did it on Carnival Spirit in May 2006 it was not too bad as only two ships in most ports. However in the real high season July/August when Americans/Europeans take holidays then it is out of control, 4, 5, 6 ships in.
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From the Crystal Serenity in Ketchican today. Other ships in port are Star Princess and Nieuw Amsterdam



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Originally posted by Kiwi Kruzer
From the Crystal Serenity in Ketchican today. Other ships in port are Star Princess and Nieuw Amsterdam



thats the Golden Princess isnt it at the front with its trolley bar handle night club at the back of her , not seen any others with that at the back except her
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Originally posted by Hawka
thats the Golden Princess isnt it at the front with its trolley bar handle night club at the back of her , not seen any others with that at the back except her


Star Princess has the trolley handle as well lol.


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2004 - Pacific Sky|Brisbane rt South Pacific
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Originally posted by tazza_0712
Star Princess has the trolley handle as well lol.


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oh cool, didnt know another had it :-) thanks
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Originally posted by Hawka
oh cool, didnt know another had it :-) thanks
Also Caribbean Princess.

The Grand was built with one but was removed in 2011 due to weight issues.
Melbourne area
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Originally posted by yatchet
Also Caribbean Princess.

The Grand was built with one but was removed in 2011 due to weight issues.
cool i love them such a good place to go during the day just to relax in a different spot
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Originally posted by Hawka
cool i love them such a good place to go during the day just to relax in a different spot


They are a brilliant spot. Love it, too. And I actually like the look of them on the ship. Very unique.

I've been on both Star and Golden and can't say I noticed a difference in size.


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2006 - Pacific Sun|Sydney rt South Pacific
2009 - Legend OTS|Rome rt Italy and Croatia
2011 - Pacific Jewel|Sydney rt South Pacific
2012 - Dawn Princess|Sydney to Brisbane
2012 - Radiance OTS|Sydney rt Weekend
2012 - Rhapsody OTS|Sydney rt Queensland
2013 - Sea Princess|Sydney to Brisbane
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Originally posted by tazza_0712
They are a brilliant spot. Love it, too. And I actually like the look of them on the ship. Very unique.

I've been on both Star and Golden and can't say I noticed a difference in size.


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was looking at the stats on princesses site star is taller and heavier and 1 metre longer
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Originally posted by Hawka
was looking at the stats on princesses site star is taller and heavier and 1 metre longer


There must be another deck in there somewhere lol


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1999 - Fair Princess|Sydney rt South Pacific
2004 - Pacific Sky|Brisbane rt South Pacific
2006 - Pacific Sun|Sydney rt South Pacific
2009 - Legend OTS|Rome rt Italy and Croatia
2011 - Pacific Jewel|Sydney rt South Pacific
2012 - Dawn Princess|Sydney to Brisbane
2012 - Radiance OTS|Sydney rt Weekend
2012 - Rhapsody OTS|Sydney rt Queensland
2013 - Sea Princess|Sydney to Brisbane
2014 - Radiance OTS|Honolulu to Sydney
2015 - Voyager OTS|Sydney rt Weekend
2015 - Pacific Dawn|Brisbane rt Moreton Is.
2015 - Star Princess|Alaska
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2017 - Radiance OTS|B2B|Sydney rt Australia
Melbourne area
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Originally posted by MicCanberra
Diamond Princess also had one.
just looked at a photo theirs is forward of the bum of the ship looks weird there but it is still a trolley handle just in wrong spot lol that would be different i like the ones right at the back as you get a good view of the wake of the ship i know you would still see it but there would also be ship in the view if that makes sense
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Originally posted by tazza_0712
There must be another deck in there somewhere lol


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must be
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Canberra Australia
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Originally posted by Hawka
just looked at a photo theirs is forward of the bum of the ship looks weird there but it is still a trolley handle just in wrong spot lol that would be different i like the ones right at the back as you get a good view of the wake of the ship i know you would still see it but there would also be ship in the view if that makes sense
Yes not quite at the very rear but still a nice area, without getting too much shade over the rear pool areas.
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Originally posted by MicCanberra
Yes not quite at the very rear but still a nice area, without getting too much shade over the rear pool areas.
yes would be still nice and quiet in there for sure
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Originally posted by MicCanberra
Diamond Princess also had one.
Diamond and Sapphire never had a "shopping trolley" stern. They were both built in Japan and were along the same lines as the Grand Class ships but had Skywalkers built further forward , thus leaving the stern open and sunny.
Just out of interest heres a Youtube clip from when they removed the "trolley handle" from Grand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDGGow4j0tE
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Canberra Australia
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Originally posted by Kiwi Kruzer
Diamond and Sapphire never had a "shopping trolley" stern. They were both built in Japan and were along the same lines as the Grand Class ships but had Skywalkers built further forward , thus leaving the stern open and sunny.
Just out of interest heres a Youtube clip from when they removed the "trolley handle" from Grand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDGGow4j0tE
That is what I had meant and clarified it in a later post, I think it is the better design as it has the skywalkers appeal without the shadows over the rear decks.