Questions about smoking on HAL

[navybankerteacher]

and yet you say you still cruise HAL. they very definition of insanity is repeating the same action while expecting a different result.

 

Of course, regularly spending a couple of thousand dollars per year (or substantially more, depending on how many packs per week are consumed) so that one can inhale toxic fumes with known negative effects on one's health, while gratuitously inflicting them on other people, is also a pattern defineable as insanity.

[m steve]

with tobacco fumes than the tour busses running with exaust fumes while waiting for the stragglers to return from a tour.

[silverado44]

There are no "non-smoking" cabins on HAL or Princess or NCL or Carnival or RCCL So - I guess you are left with Celebrity as they do prohibit smoking in cabins or on balconies.

 

 

Not true for Carnival. The spa cabins on the Splendor and Dream are non-smoking.

[CtheW0rld]

Not true for Carnival. The spa cabins on the Splendor and Dream are non-smoking.

 

costa has spa cabins on their newer ships, too. they are non-smoking. HAL has spa cabins, but i've not looked into the smoking thing in those (i wouldn't spend the extra $ for one).

[bermuda triangle]

My husband and I are considering our first ever cruise on HAL (Australia - New Caledonia etc and/or South America). I've searched this forum but cannot find the exact information I am seeking regarding smoking.

 

1. Are there non-smoking cabins - if not, this is pretty much a show-stopper for us.

 

2. I understand there is smoking allowed in the Casino - but what about other public areas / dining areas. Again - we have significant concerns regarding second hand smoke and smoking general ordours in any public area..

 

I never even thought that this would be an issue (assumed ship would be non-smoking throughout) until I started reading some reviews where people complained about smoking smells.

 

Thanks.

I recalled this article, which may aid you in your smoke free cruise search. Includes smoking policy by cruise line.

http://www.frommers.com/articles/5872.html

 

 

The Best Ships for Non-Smokers

The following cruise lines prohibit smoking not only in the majority of public areas but also in all their cabins (eliminating any possibility of residual odors), cabin balconies, and even outside public decks.

American Cruise Lines (www.americancruiselines.com): Small-ship line ACL is entirely smoke-free. Smoking is prohibited both indoors and on the outside decks.

Azamara Cruises (www.azamaracruises.com): Smoking is banned everywhere aboard Azamara's two ships with the exception of two small areas: one indoors, in the aft port-side section of the Looking Glass Lounge, the other outdoors, in the starboard forward section of the Pool Deck. Azamara also follows a no-smoking policy on all land components of its cruisetours.

Oceania Cruises (www.oceaniacruises.com): As aboard Azamara (whose ships are more or less identical to Oceania's), smoking is prohibited except in two areas: one indoors, in the aft port corner of Horizons observation lounge, and one outdoors, in the forward starboard corner of the Pool Deck. Cigar and pipe smoking are only permitted in the latter.

Semi-Smoke-Free Runners Up

American Canadian Caribbean Line (www.accl-smallships.com): Smoking is allowed on outside decks only on this small-ship line. Smoking is not permitted anywhere inside.

American Safari Cruises (www.amsafari.com): Smoking is prohibited in all indoor areas of this line's small yachts. Smokers may light up on outside decks only.

Celebrity Cruises (www.celebrity.com): Smoking is prohibited in staterooms, on stateroom balconies, in all dining venues, and in the casino, theater, corridors, and elevators. Cigarette smoking is permitted only in a few designated indoor and outdoor areas of each ship, and cigar and pipe smoking is permitted only in designated outdoor areas. Cigarettes, cigars, and pipe tobacco must be properly disposed of and never thrown overboard. Violations carry a $250 penalty charged to the guest's onboard account. There is also a non-smoking policy on all land components of Celebrity cruisetours.

Cruise West (www.cruisewest.com): Smoking is allowed only in designated areas of outside decks on these small ships. Smoking is not permitted anywhere inside.

Disney Cruise Line (www.disneycruise.com): Smoking is permitted only in designated areas of the ship. Guests are allowed to smoke only on open decks (except near the children's pool), on their stateroom balcony, and in the designated "adult" lounges onboard: Sessions and Rockin' Bar D on Disney Magic and WaveBands and The Cadillac Lounge on Disney Wonder.

Lindblad Expeditions (www.expeditions.com): Smoking is permitted only in designated outdoor areas on Lindblad's small, expedition-oriented ships. No smoking is permitted anywhere inside.

Maine Windjammers (www.sailmainecoast.com): None of the owner-operated Maine windjammers permit smoking anywhere below decks, but other rules vary by boat. Several captains prohibit smoking anywhere on board, while others designate a downwind smoking area.

MSC Cruises (www.msccruises.com): On all MSC vessels, smoking is permitted only in the cigar lounge, the casino, in one dedicated lounge, and on one side of the sun deck. Smoking is prohibited in all cabins and cabin balconies.

Peter Deilmann Cruises (www.deilmann-cruises.com): You know the worm has turned on smoking when even the Germans ban cigarettes from their ships. That's what happened fourteen months ago when Peter Deilmann Cruises announced a new smoking ban for all indoor areas of its single oceangoing vessel, the beautiful 513-passenger Deutschland. Smoking is now permitted only on Deutschland's outside decks.

Regent Seven Seas Cruises (www.rssc.com): Smoking is prohibited in all staterooms and stateroom balconies, in all enclosed dining areas, and in most public rooms. Cigarette smoking is permitted only in designated areas of the outdoor Pool Grills, on deck areas, and in the casino, the cigar lounge, and the pool bar, as well as in a designated area of the nightclub and an outside portion of the observation lounge. Pipe smoking is only permitted in the cigar lounge, and cigars may be smoked in the cigar lounge and in a designated section of the Pool Bar. Violations of the smoking policy result in the guest being asked to leave the ship at his or her expense, without refund or credit.

Royal Caribbean International (www.royalcaribbean.com): Smoking is prohibited in cabins and in all restaurants, corridors, entertainment venues, and most other public spaces. Cigarette smoking is permitted only in designated areas of the ships' bars and lounges, on ocean-facing cabin balconies (i.e., not on Boardwalk- or Central Park–facing balconies on the new Oasis-class ships), and on outside decks on the starboard side of the ship. One lounge aboard each ship is designated totally non-smoking. Pipe and cigar smoking is only permitted in the cigar lounge or, on ships that don't have them, in a specifically designated area. Cigarettes, cigars, and pipe tobacco must be properly disposed of and never thrown overboard. Violations carry a $250 penalty charged to the guest's onboard account.

Sea Cloud Cruises (www.seacloud.com): Smoking is permitted only on open decks, and is prohibited in all indoor areas.

SeaDream Yacht Club (www.seadream.com): Smoking is prohibited in all indoor areas, including cabins. No cabins aboard these ships have private balconies, so that's not an option either. Smoking is permitted outdoors only on Decks 3, 4, and 6, but even there it's banned during all meal hours.

Star Clippers (www.starclippers.com): Star Clippers follows a nonsmoking policy in all cabins and indoor public areas except a portion of the piano bar lounge. Smoking is permitted on outside decks. Pipe and cigar smoking is allowed only on open decks.

Windstar Cruises (www.windstarcruises.com): Smoking is prohibited in all staterooms and public spaces. Smoking is permitted only in designated areas of the outside decks.

Rules on the Rest

Here's a rundown on smoking rules aboard the other major cruise lines.

Carnival Cruise Lines (www.carnival.com): Smoking is prohibited in all dining areas as well as in a number of public rooms, including the main show lounge, library, in some other lounges, and along the promenade deck. Unless otherwise indicated, smoking is permitted in cabins, cabin balconies, casinos, dance clubs, piano bars, cigar bars (on the ships that have them), certain other live-music venues, and in designated areas of the open decks. Spa staterooms and suites aboard Carnival Splendor are totally non-smoking, with a $250 penalty for violations.

Costa Cruises (www.costacruise.com): Smoking is permitted in cabins and private balconies and in designated areas of most public rooms on board. It's prohibited in the restaurants and show lounges.

Crystal Cruises (www.crystalcruises.com): Cigarette smoking is permitted in cabins and at designated tables in most bars and lounges, but most public areas are smoke-free, including the main dining room, the bistro, the indoor portions of the buffet restaurant, the alternative restaurants, the show lounge, the Starlite Club aboard Crystal Symphony, and all private balconies. Pipes and cigars are permitted only in the Connoisseur Club and on most open decks (except all areas of Lido Deck). Pipes and cigars may not be smoked in cabins, on cabin balconies, or in the ships' corridors.

Cunard Line (www.cunard.com): Elevators and all restaurants are designated as totally non-smoking, while public rooms offer both smoking and non-smoking areas. Pipes and cigar smoking is limited to the cigar lounge.

Holland America Line (www.hollandamerica.com): Smoking is prohibited in all dining areas and in showrooms during performances. Smoking is permitted in designated areas of most bars/lounges, in cabins, on cabin balconies, and on the open decks.

Norwegian Cruise Line (www.ncl.com): Smoking is prohibited in almost all public areas aboard NCL's ships, including restaurants, performance venues, and bars/lounges. Cigarette smoking is permitted only in cabins, on cabin balconies, in the casino, in the Cigar Bar (on ships that have them), and on most open decks (excluding the food-service areas, sport decks, kids' pool areas, and other designated no-smoking zones). Pipe and cigar smokers must contain themselves to the Cigar Bar or designated smoking lounge and to the smoking zones on the outside decks.

Princess Cruises (www.princess.com): Smoking is prohibited in the dining rooms and other food-service areas and in the show lounges and theaters. Smoking is permitted in cabins, on cabin balconies, on the outside decks, and in designated areas of most public rooms. Pipe and cigar smoking is prohibited in all public rooms.

Seabourn Cruise Line (www.seabourn.com): Smoking is prohibited in most public areas, including all restaurants, the show lounge, the casino, the nightclub, the spa, the ships' elevators, corridors, lobbies, and the port side of the Observation Lounge. On the upcoming Seabourn Odyssey and Seabourn Sojourn, it will also be prohibited on all of deck 8 (including the Patio Bar, Patio Grill, and pool area) and deck 11 (including the Retreat and Sun Terrace). Cigarette smoking is permitted in cabins and on cabin balconies. Pipe and cigar smoking is permitted only on outside decks.

Silversea Cruises (www.silversea.com): Most public areas are non-smoking. Cigarette smoking is permitted only at designated smoking tables in some bars and lounges and in certain areas on open decks. Cigar and pipe smoking is only permitted in the cigar lounge and in designated outdoor areas on decks 5 and 6 aboard Prince Albert II, on open decks 9 and 10 aboard Silver Shadow and Silver Whisper, and on open deck 9 aboard Silver Cloud and Silver Wind.

 

[waASPCrusier]

Not true for Carnival. The spa cabins on the Splendor and Dream are non-smoking.

 

But then you still have to hope people across the hall aren't smokers sharing the same ventilation system. :cool:

[Bakincakes]

Frankly I'm more afraid of what I am breathing in, courtesy of my fellow pax on an airplane.

 

No smoking on them but we are all sharing the same recirculated air.:eek:

 

I can't tell you the number of times I've gotten sick a few days after flying. I can't even imagine the number of allergens floating around in the air in an enclosed plane. And we are all sharing the little buggers for the duration of our flights.

[Bobs cruising]

Just dropped in to say hello. Hope all the insane and normal cruisers are having fun.

You all know what I think. :p

Dam- I am out of popcorn, refill please :D

[Alunan]

I see the other thread went into code red.

[Bobs cruising]

I see the other thread went into code red.

 

Yep, it is closed. I am not getting involved in this thread until someone gets me more popcorn.

Thanks for being kind to each other on this thread and the closed one. :rolleyes:

[fridayeyes]

For me, I don't understand why it would be so hard to have smoking and non-smoking cabins just like there are smoking and non-smoking hotel rooms. HAL seems to already know what percentage of its guests either smoke or travel with a smoker, so that should give them a rough idea of what percentage of each cabin category to allocate for each. I would think that would go a long way toward eliminating the problem (for non-smokers) of smoke drifting in hallways, over balconies, or non-smokers occupying a recently smoked in cabin.

 

We've rarely encountered a problem. I know if I go to the casino, there will be smoke. For the time that I'm there, I just deal with it - tho I've been known to switch machines if somebody is chain smoking right next to me. For the rest of the ship, I've rarely noticed a problem.

[Gunther1]

I love to look at pretty flower arrangments. Sometimes when I look at pretty flowers, I think happy thoughts and think of bunnies and puppies. Other times I imagine that I am a bouncy balloon, bouncing up and down all over a pretty field.

 

More popcorn, please.

[CtheW0rld]

I love to look at pretty flower arrangments. Sometimes when I look at pretty flowers, I think happy thoughts and think of bunnies and puppies. Other times I imagine that I am a bouncy balloon, bouncing up and down all over a pretty field.

 

More popcorn, please.

 

aw...

 

[cruie4ever]

My husband and I are considering our first ever cruise on HAL (Australia - New Caledonia etc and/or South America). I've searched this forum but cannot find the exact information I am seeking regarding smoking.

 

1. Are there non-smoking cabins - if not, this is pretty much a show-stopper for us.

 

2. I understand there is smoking allowed in the Casino - but what about other public areas / dining areas. Again - we have significant concerns regarding second hand smoke and smoking general ordours in any public area..

 

I never even thought that this would be an issue (assumed ship would be non-smoking throughout) until I started reading some reviews where people complained about smoking smells.

 

Thanks.

 

Since non smoking is a issue Celebrity has a very stringent non smoking policy in the cabins ,on balconies ,in the casino & other public areas .There are only a handful of designated smoking areas on a Celebrity cruise . We feel that soon all cruise lines will adopt a stronger no smoking policy for the publics health

[maxout]

WALT!! :D I told you this thing would grow heads...

[DizzyDallasDi]

For me, I don't understand why it would be so hard to have smoking and non-smoking cabins just like there are smoking and non-smoking hotel rooms.

 

I can't see nonsmoking rooms working on a cruise ship. Cruise ships and hotels are completely different scenarios. You can't reserve a particular room number in a hotel but you can on a cruise ship. Many people want a certain deck, location, etc. No doubt one's favorite cabin would be designated wrong for them. For instance, what if an aft cabin is a cruiser's desired location? There are very few of those so how would they be divided up? And, at some point a nonsmoking verandah cabin would need to be next to a smoking one thereby negating the nonsmoking cabin's verandah.

 

Until HAL goes entirely nonsmoking in all cabins and verandahs, it's going to continue to be the luck of the draw as to whether your neighbors will be smokers.

[Cruisin Suzin]

I can't see nonsmoking rooms working on a cruise ship. Cruise ships and hotels are completely different scenarios. You can't reserve a particular room number in a hotel but you can on a cruise ship. Many people want a certain deck, location, etc. No doubt one's favorite cabin would be designated wrong for them. For instance, what if an aft cabin is a cruiser's desired location? There are very few of those so how would they be divided up? And, at some point a nonsmoking verandah cabin would need to be next to a smoking one thereby negating the nonsmoking cabin's verandah.

 

Until HAL goes entirely nonsmoking in all cabins and verandahs, it's going to continue to be the luck of the draw as to whether your neighbors will be smokers.

 

 

You could divide the ship in half. Port non smoking, starboard smoking. Now for the aft...here is my solution..since afts are my favorite cabin, I say all afts are non smoking for sure..:)

It will change just look at the rest of North America, Province by Province. State by State and cruise line by cruise line. It is just a matter of time.. Remember when you could smoke on an airplane, and butt your cigarette out in those little tiny ashtrays. Scary.You still fly and now it's just a thing of the past..Remember when you could smoke in a theatre and the air was blue in front of the screen.You still go to the movies. So even if you can't smoke in your cabin or balcony you will still cruise.

BTW Happy EArth Day!

[fridayeyes]

See, that's what I'm thinking. One side smoking, one side non. There are people who don't care, and if anyone is on a border they can be advised when booking. I'd be willing to be there would be fewer complaints than now - from both sides!

[fridayeyes]

I can't see nonsmoking rooms working on a cruise ship. Cruise ships and hotels are completely different scenarios. You can't reserve a particular room number in a hotel but you can on a cruise ship. Many people want a certain deck, location, etc. No doubt one's favorite cabin would be designated wrong for them. For instance, what if an aft cabin is a cruiser's desired location? There are very few of those so how would they be divided up? And, at some point a nonsmoking verandah cabin would need to be next to a smoking one thereby negating the nonsmoking cabin's verandah.

 

Until HAL goes entirely nonsmoking in all cabins and verandahs, it's going to continue to be the luck of the draw as to whether your neighbors will be smokers.

 

Aft cabins could alternate deck to prevent side by side issues.

[DizzyDallasDi]

Remember when you could smoke on an airplane, and butt your cigarette out in those little tiny ashtrays.

 

Heck, I remember when the airlines passed out mini-packs of 4 cigarettes like they do peanuts now. "Here's your beverage and do you prefer menthol or regular?"

[boaterette]

I think if all the cruise ships were to become as restrictive as Celebrity than the cruise rates would increase and be just as high as Celebrity. I think a lot of cruisers would be proced out of the market. Which would only drive the prices even higher.

[Bobs cruising]

I think if all the cruise ships were to become as restrictive as Celebrity than the cruise rates would increase and be just as high as Celebrity. I think a lot of cruisers would be proced out of the market. Which would only drive the prices even higher.

 

I don't know were you are getting your info, but it is wrong. Celebrity prices for the same type of ship, ports visited and time periods are less expensive than HAL and have always been that way. Celebrity has always been equal in cruising amenities with HAL and at a lower price. In the future things may change, but I don't have a crystal ball. So I will continue to spend my cruise money on Celebrity and HAL. Which ever line has the best deal and ports at the time I want to cruise. The only way I would stop cruising on HAL is if they don't change their smoking policy. The time has come HAL welcome to the 21st century.

[Cruisin Suzin]

Aft cabins could alternate deck to prevent side by side issues.

 

Yes I thought of that, and it would be fair, but let's say the smoke filters up then what..so how about we go with the first 3 aft decks are non smoking and the last 3 smoking then the smoke won't bother any one..

If you divide the ship in half there are no border cabins..the bow and aft separate them all..and it would promote people to book even earlier to get their "side" and if you book on the side you don't want then tough noogies.:p you left it too late....you know what your getting into..

Say let's make this industry wide shall we..

Ok now that is settled...:)

[harryjr]

We usually cruise on HAL, but last year we went on a last minute 4-day on the RCI Monarch of the Seas. Much to my surprise, the first day "Cruise Compass" newsletter contained this directive: "SMOKING POLICY--The Monarch of the Seas is primarily a non-smoking ship and smoking is not allowed in the staterooms, corridors, theater and dining areas. Guests will be charged a cleaning fee and could face other penalties for smoking in the stateroom." I don't know if this is policy fleet wide or just this ship, but it was appreciated by us non-smokers (although we have only had 2 cruises on Hal with smoky cabin issues).

[Gablin]

I am booked on HAL in November, but would certainly prefer a more restrictive smoking policy. My last cruise was on a Royal ship, and even the casino was more smoke free than not.

It will change eventually, as have stores, restaurants and hotels. I remember ashtrays even in grocery store aisles! Now, my car doesn't even have an ashtray!

 

I would not like to see one side smoking and the other nonsmoking. Depending on the destination, cruisers could prefer one side or the other for reasons other than smoking, complicating their decisions.