Bring your Manners with you/mini review 4/7 magic

[alreadypacked]

One of my biggest pet peeves is that people think that just because someone can walk, that they have no issues. While I do agree that people could stand to be more polite with elevators there is no reason that an able bodied person should not take the elevator if they so chose.

 

Very true. While I'm immensely thankful that I'm not even remotely wheelchair-bound, I have painful foot problems and knee arthritis.

 

I'm not even close to what I or most would even consider disabled!

 

Disabilities aren't always visible, but people may have significant pain/mobility issues that aren't apparent. My neighbor has Lupus, but you might not know it just by looking at her.

 

I remember reading an article about a man who endured dirty looks after parking in handicapped parking spaces (with the proper plates/placard). He had no visible disability, but was actually a partial foot amputee due to diabetes and had difficulty walking.

[Swayde]

I'm sure that people have judged me plenty of times for taking an elevator. I am 36 years old but look much younger, overweight (have lost 60 lbs in 18 months and still losing) but not obese and look perfectly able bodied. However, stairs are murder for my knee. I've had 1 surgery 4 years ago already and will require a knee replacement when I am older unless there is a miraculous healing. They won't do it so young because they only last, at best about 20 years. I have arthritis, no cartilage and 3 bone spurs which are sadly growing back. Not to mention balance problems, which caused me to fall down stairs and destroy my knee in the first place when I was 19. I most certainly would never cut in front of anyone, but if I am going up more than 3 flights, or down more than 1, I do need an elevator or I will suffer greatly.

 

Just sharing this because you really never do know what someone else is going through. People need to learn to mind their own business, be polite and treat others the way they want to be treated and things would be so much more pleasant.

[susan123]

Like...Two years ago I was in a wheelchair due to a broken ankle. One night I waited for no less than six elevators before someone let me in. People would run in front of my wheelchair to get in..

 

 

I've never seen people run in front of a wheel chair to get on an elevator on the ship. I don't doubt that it happens, but your experience was one time. On my last cruise, I saw a large group of people with one person in a wheel chair rush to an elevator that already had started loading, tell people already on the elevator they had to get off so the wheelchair could be pushed on, and people got off and waited for the next elevator so the man in the wheel chair and his large group could go first. I don't think that is a common occurrence either.

[cruiseclues]

to the person that asked me if it happened on the MAgic. yes and quite often or I wouldn't have mentioned it. but in general the last 4 or 5 of the 66 cruises I have been on I have seen more and more of it..and not all on carnival. guess society is changing again. I will continue to cruise and have a good time despite other peoples behavior just was hoping people would become more civil after all a cruise ship is confined quarters and your actions effect people more than at other vacation destinations where peole are free to leave or change surroundings..

we are looking forward to our 8/11 Magic cruise and know with 3500 different passengers than this last one and a good attitude it can be better.

peace and yall be good to each other:cool:

 

Thanks for your Response. :):):):)

[WetToes]

... tell people already on the elevator they had to get off so the wheelchair could be pushed on, and people got off and waited for the next elevator so the man in the wheel chair and his large group could go first.

 

 

They'd dtill be waiting for me to exit the elevator.

[Tantra1]

The original post had valid requests not only for everyone to enjoy a pleasant cruise experience but for day to day living in harmony. Unfortunately there is a increase in rude, selfish, and entitlement behavior and a disregard for common curtesy that has been "snowballing" down hill for quite some time as evidenced by some of the replies to the post. I don't see this getting any better any time soon. There are too many low class, self centered, ******* parents raising the same kind of children and those that would take exception to this are just the kind of people that are the problem.

 

I tend not to be confrontational but I don't suffer fools anymore either and will assert myself if necessary when someone tries to take advantage of me whether it means bringing it to the attention of authority or getting in their face.

 

Cheers!

[hn7609]

Just a few observations from a wheelchair cruiser.

 

· I would never expect anybody to get off an elevator so that I could get on……although some people have done this for me. Much appreciated.

 

· My chair does not grant me any special privileges. I have never been escorted to the front of any line on a cruise ship nor do I expect to be. I wait in the lines like everyone else. I’ve seen people cut in lines before, I have no doubt that disabled people have cut in lines too.

 

· Everyone has a right to ride the elevator…..if you want to go up one floor that’s OK with me.

 

· If I am among the first waiting at an elevator bank I do expect to get on when the doors open if there is room. If the far elevator opens I will not be able to beat you to the open door, I would appreciate it if you would let me get on first. I can’t count the number of times I have been left in the lobby because I lost the race to the open door or everybody just poured in around me.

 

· My wife & children do cruise with me but they are not allowed on the elevators. They wait with me, once I am on the elevator they take to the steps. They are always waiting for me when I finally reach my destination.

 

· Regarding the elevators the first two days are always the worst………after that 90% of the people figure out that the stairs are much quicker.

 

· Cruises that leave from third world areas such as New York or Miami contain the worst mannered people. The environment there forces them to fight for their space & they continue the fight on the ship.

[CanWeGoYet?]

 

 

 

 

· Cruises that leave from third world areas such as New York or Miami contain the worst mannered people. The environment there forces them to fight for their space & they continue the fight on the ship.

 

Many cultures have different "rules" for what is acceptable behavior in a crowd & what is acceptable 1:1.

 

My Mom who was from Japan would tell me that interpersonal, 1:1 behavior in their society is formal and very polite. But none of that translated to how people would behave in a crowd - shoving was common & no apologies offered.

She was so tiny & struggling to get a huge suitcase off the carousel. None of her countrymen payed any attention. It was a US serviceman who courteously picked up her bag & helped her with it. Did it without even being asked.

[mek]

This one of the main reasons why I don't want to go to Disney ever again. Last time we were there, we were waiting in line for the shuttle buses with one child asleep in a stroller and the other asleep on my shoulder. 3 buses came and went and we were finally at the front of the line. Yay! Next bus I can sit down. Wrong. Guy in a scooter with his entire extended family gets to go to the front of the line. They basically filled all the seats on the bus and there I was standing again. Best part was that the scooter guy wheeled up to the bus, got off the scooter and ambled on up the stairs with no difficulty.

 

Maybe next time in Disney I will have a scooter and get to go to the front of all the lines.:cool:

 

I doubt that he went to all of the expense and bother of a scooter just to get to the front of the line. Perhaps he simply can't walk distances like my DH. But, I don't think he and his group should have gone in front of you.