~~~ To All the Chair HOGS !!!

[fodorspeter]

I love it when the hogs leave a book on "their" chair - just neatly rip out the last four pages!

 

Peter

[waterrats]

I have been called a chair hog in this site in the past. I get up on deck at 9:30. I take a short morning nap on the chair, then spend the day at the pool about 20 feet from my chair. I am at the pool and not reserving my chair for the day. It just so happens that ships don't have cubbies to put my stuff in so this is the only solution.

 

I agree, you shouldn't leave the pool deck without taking your stuff with you. If we all followed this rule, there would always be chair near the pool. If there were cubbies, then there would be even more chairs at the pool.

 

Why can't we all just get along and follow a few simple rules. The real chair hogs (ones that put their stuff there at 9 and don't show up until 2pm for 20 minutes) ruin it for everyone.

[MrsPete]

I just wonder what makes you think this is "OK"???? Can you explain your thinking? Why is leaving a chair with your stuff on it ok while you are in your cabin sleeping, or at the spa getting a massage, or at the buffet eating? What possibly could justify that this is acceptable? Just curious...:confused:

 

She obviously doesn't think it's okay: she acknowledges in her statement that it's a PROBLEM. She just doesn't care what other people think and doesn't think that common courtesy is a factor; that's obvious in her final statement telling us to "deal with it".

 

I will take her advice and find a way to "deal with it". I'll move her stuff and not think twice.

[Nliedel]

I have been called a chair hog in this site in the past. I get up on deck at 9:30. I take a short morning nap on the chair, then spend the day at the pool about 20 feet from my chair. I am at the pool and not reserving my chair for the day. It just so happens that ships don't have cubbies to put my stuff in so this is the only solution.

 

I agree, you shouldn't leave the pool deck without taking your stuff with you. If we all followed this rule, there would always be chair near the pool. If there were cubbies, then there would be even more chairs at the pool.

 

Why can't we all just get along and follow a few simple rules. The real chair hogs (ones that put their stuff there at 9 and don't show up until 2pm for 20 minutes) ruin it for everyone.

 

That, what you do, imo, is not hogging. You are using the space, you are very close by. You are not getting a massage or taking a nap in your cabin or playing bingo.

[FreesiaE]

It's funny b/c this really doesn't extend to many other activities in real life. I don't see anyone putting a jacket at a restaurant table at 2:30 b/c they want to eat there at 6:30 and not wait in line.

[sportsterjohn]

Actually the types of behavior apply to real life. The kind of people who hog the chairs all day are the same type of lowlifes who cut in lines in traffic, go to the checkout line in a crowded supermarket and then send thier SO to get another 20 items, try to go through the express line with 25 things, speed up on the highway when they think you are going to pass them and generally blame everyone else for thier own personal misery. In my experience, people who are self centered and rude like this are usually like that in all ways, not just in some situations.

[tinsel57]

Well this is going to sound like I am an old fart but since I am in my 40's I haven't hit those golden sunset years yet! Maybe you'll cut me some slack,,, in many cases, I think we as a society have done this to ourselves.

 

Manners are no longer taught, good conduct and consideration are no longer enforced. Children scream and talk back and carry on and parents don't care.

16 year olds are driving $45K tahoe's that they think they're entitled to simply because they're 16. No one RSVP's for weddings. We wear our pajama's to the grocery store and when Burger King paid an advertising firm thousands for the 'Have it Your Way' slogan they had no idea that so many American's were going to make it their own personal mantra.

 

We're slovenly slackers, ill manner, over indulged and spoiled beyond measure. Many have become that wretched Violet from the Willie Wanka movie as she stomps her feet and screams I WANT IT NOW!

 

Don't stand for it. It's time the ill mannered had an education on consideration and cooperation. Do your country a favor, you know what they say, the mind's a terrible thing to waste...make it your personal goal to educate the uneducated!!

 

Maybe we could all pitch in and buy bulk copies of the Miss Manners books and distribute them to the chair hogs... do you think it'd go over their heads??

 

;)

[FreesiaE]

Maybe we could throw the etiquette books at the chair hogs. They'd either have to move to avoid them, or read them :)

[tinsel57]

My husband was a minor league pitcher, I am happy to volunteer his services he's got a he** of a sinker!

[MrsPete]

It's funny b/c this really doesn't extend to many other activities in real life. I don't see anyone putting a jacket at a restaurant table at 2:30 b/c they want to eat there at 6:30 and not wait in line.

That's because the restaurant's owner would not stand for such foolishness; however, the cruise ships are afraid to make their passengers angry, so they ignore the situation.

Manners are no longer taught, good conduct and consideration are no longer enforced.

We all know that this behavior exisits, but -- thankfully -- I believe the majority of us still have some consideration for our fellow man.

[tumeroll]

Well this is going to sound like I am an old fart but since I am in my 40's I haven't hit those golden sunset years yet! Maybe you'll cut me some slack,,, in many cases, I think we as a society have done this to ourselves.

 

Manners are no longer taught, good conduct and consideration are no longer enforced. Children scream and talk back and carry on and parents don't care.

16 year olds are driving $45K tahoe's that they think they're entitled to simply because they're 16. No one RSVP's for weddings. We wear our pajama's to the grocery store and when Burger King paid an advertising firm thousands for the 'Have it Your Way' slogan they had no idea that so many American's were going to make it their own personal mantra.

 

We're slovenly slackers, ill manner, over indulged and spoiled beyond measure. Many have become that wretched Violet from the Willie Wanka movie as she stomps her feet and screams I WANT IT NOW!

 

Don't stand for it. It's time the ill mannered had an education on consideration and cooperation. Do your country a favor, you know what they say, the mind's a terrible thing to waste...make it your personal goal to educate the uneducated!!

 

Maybe we could all pitch in and buy bulk copies of the Miss Manners books and distribute them to the chair hogs... do you think it'd go over their heads??

 

;)

Amen - 100% agrement here. Time to stand up and fight back be it the chair hog, the line crasher or the dress code violator.

[kryos]

We wanted to sit by the pool where our friends where swimming, many many chairs with no people for hours... so we sat 20 yards away staring at empty chairs. Very frustrating.

Real simple. Scope out the chair you would like from 20-yards away for about half an hour tops. If no one plops down in it after that time, simply grab a deck person, point out the chair you would like, and hand over to him the towel, books, or whatever that are reserving it.

 

If the person who originally "owned" the chair comes back to claim it, from your comfortably seated position in that chair, just point them in the direction of the deck person and then point to the sign prohibiting the reserving of deck chairs. It's doubtful they will have the nerve to pursue the issue further.

 

Blue skies ...

 

--rita

[kryos]

No one RSVP's for weddings.

Even better than that ... I love when people show up for wedding receptions with their children in tow ... after the invitation specifically stated that this was an "adults only" affair ... no children allowed.

 

I had a friend who went through this. She even took the added step of calling the few people who did RSVP and added their children's names to their confirmation. She carefully and politely explained that the reception was for adults only. Still, a few people showed up at the hall with children. This placed her in a bad position because the guests who honored her request saw others' children present. A few others who were unwilling to leave their children home simply told her they would be unable to attend, and that was fine ... no hard feelings. Now she had a couple of people there with children and it simply wasn't fair to the others.

 

Luckily her family "handled" the problem quietly by speaking to those guests, but talk about rude! But, some people have no problem being rude ... as long as they are seemingly getting their own way.

 

Sad.

 

Blue skies ...

 

--rita

[Nliedel]

I am going to disagree with the poster who stated children are not taught manners. Mine are and I am an old bat in her 40's. It is darn hard when their frinds act like dorks but I am TRYING to stick to my guns. Trying being the key word here.

[George8211]

Pretty soon we will be having 'Cruise Lounge Chair Rage' :(

[tinsel57]

I am going to disagree with the poster who stated children are not taught manners. Mine are and I am an old bat in her 40's. It is darn hard when their frinds act like dorks but I am TRYING to stick to my guns. Trying being the key word here.

 

Broadsense of things, we're speaking in the broadsense. Thank God you taught your children manners, I know I certainly have taught mine but you just have to hit any public place to see the vast majority have not.

 

No one said being a parent was going to be easy. But it's no excuse for rudeness and unexceptable behavior from either parent or child.

 

I know I can count on my children not to be chair hogs and we now know we can count on yours too. It's a wondeful thing because a little consideration goes a very long way.

[Nliedel]

Broadsense of things, we're speaking in the broadsense. Thank God you taught your children manners, I know I certainly have taught mine but you just have to hit any public place to see the vast majority have not.

 

No one said being a parent was going to be easy. But it's no excuse for rudeness and unexceptable behavior from either parent or child.

 

I know I can count on my children not to be chair hogs and we now know we can count on yours too. It's a wondeful thing because a little consideration goes a very long way.

 

Yea well famous last words. I almost left the oldest one in a store an hour ago for touching everything in site and asking me to buy, buy, buy.. I thought he knew better. Eight year old for sale.

[Happy ks]

Nliedel, The kids just have to bring you back to reality once in a while, right? My kids are mostly well behaved in public and it's been a long and hard road to get them to that point. I think most people aren't aware that discipline starts very soon after birth, if you wait until the little darling is 3 or 4 before you start to correct their behavior, it's just too darn late.

 

Back to the chair hogs....DH and I have never had a problem with them at all, we avoid the pool deck and all the splashing kids, the chair hogs, the crowds. We go up one deck, or all the way forward or aft and find a quiet spot. The pools are always too cold to swim in, so we take a small spray bottle of water to cool down a bit. I have a hard time with people saying they are in the pool for an hour, or even a half hour, unless you are under the age of 10. Heck, most of the kids at the pool deck are in the spas, the pool water is just too darn cold. We actually tried to sit next to the pool once, the people next to us were bickering so much we got up and left. There is always a peaceful spot to be found on a cruise ship, why does everyone think it is so important to be right next to the pool?

[MrsPete]

There is always a peaceful spot to be found on a cruise ship, why does everyone think it is so important to be right next to the pool?

Speaking only for myself, I have two reasons for wanting to be next to the pool. One is eight and the other is eleven. They want to be in the pool, and they need supervision.

[gumballz]

I'm just curious........if someone turns in a RCCL towel to the lost and found that they removed from a chair......can't those people that were being a chair hog just go claim it or will they have to pay for it regardless since they 'lost' it?

[debihen]

My always sensible husband reminded me of how they handled pool chairs at Bally's Casino in Las Vegas when we stayed there a couple years back. When you arrived at the pool, the attendent carried your lounger out to the pool area and gave you a towel. When you finished, the attendent asked if you were leaving, and then would remove your lounger and take your towel. Why could this not be done onboard a cruise ship? There were stacks of loungers on our NCL Alaskan Cruise last year...I think this would take care of a lot of problems!

[waterrats]

I like your idea. They also did that on Haiti at RCCL private resort. If they did do that on the ship that would solve tons of problems of chair hogs. Maybe not do it with all the decks, just the pool deck.

[Happy ks]

Speaking only for myself, I have two reasons for wanting to be next to the pool. One is eight and the other is eleven. They want to be in the pool, and they need supervision.

 

Yes, I've been there, done that. I simply would sit at the side of the pool while they were swimming, then back to my peaceful spot.:)

[Cruisin' Chick]

Definitely going to the spa is not the same as taking a dip in the pool or grabbing a plate at the nearby grill and returning quick-as-a-daisy to the chair. In a similar thread, someone seemed to think she was entitled to having her chair reserved while she went off for a massage. I hate to think what else they think is ok, as long as it's "me first.":(

 

And what is wrong with the woman who just plops down at a table without asking first? :rolleyes: If someone is desparate for a seat and asks us, we always say, "Be our guest." We have met some nice people that way (if you eat on an Amtrak train, and you're a party of three, the head waiter will always place a single person with you).

 

Our little one has more manners than some of these people.

[anniecat]

after calling out to folks in the pool, and if the stuff truly seems "abandoned", just place it gently on the deck (where it will get wet ;) ) and park yourself.

It's not rude, just practical. Of course if those folks do come back I'd happily give them their stuff..might have had enough time in the chair...maybe not.

BTW, on the HAL cruises the pool butler's "refreshed" the towels and moved off the stuff to the deck frequently. Not sure if it was done on purpose. Of course, we should all limit our time in the sun :p