QM2 Has Five Swimming Pools?? 15 Restaurants??

[MsDeva]

Cunard quite simply state the dining options according to staterooms. One has a choice when booking.

From experience l have to say that the 'Grills' are not that exclusive and are by no means monitored on any of their ships.

I have seen passengers quite frequently wander around the Grills deck without interference from the crew, helping themselves to blankets and the perks that the Grills offer.

My husband and l have dined in both QG and PG.....so what....PG was by far the better of the two in my opinion.

We have yet to find an amiable butler in QG....again from experience they all have a very high opinion of themselves with the service far from acceptable.

QE2 was a completely different ball game.....in every way....no comparison at all to the so called Cunard of today.

We shall see how the winter crossing goes that we have booked for January 2014......l am not holding my breath as it's the intro to the WC...and that is yet another debate!

Best, Judy

[Pushka]

Unless exceptional circumstances exist, I don't think Grills passengers are allowed to dine in Britannia, so I'm thinking that isn't a restaurant either.

[jsmeeker]

Unless exceptional circumstances exist, I don't think Grills passengers are allowed to dine in Britannia, so I'm thinking that isn't a restaurant either.

 

Let's see..

 

 

Britannia -- Not a restaurant

Princess Grill -- Not a restaurant

Queens Grill -- Not a restaurant

 

Hmmm.. I may have to second think my desire to sail on QM2. I think I would go very hungry without any restaurants.

[pepperrn]

Hi Jimsgirl,

My point which some people prefer to overlook, is that the original comments were "advertising " of a sort, telling ALL the readers of ALL the delights they can enjoy once they are on the QM2. Not ALL the items mentioned were open to ALL passengers.

So, you're saying the next brochure ("advertising" after all) should ONLY have photographs of the "free" public rooms that are open to ALL passengers regardless of the fare they've paid.

So, none of the Spa, ANY restaurant ('cus they are off limits to other passengers), none of any of the bars & lounges... Commodore Club, Chart Room, Golden Lion etc ('cus you know for a fact that the entrance fee is the price of a drink), none of the casino, no G32 etc, etc...

Better that Cunard stress its unique qualities, its lectures, library, Queens Room , nightclub, Illuminations, Theatre, Entertainment, things that ALL can enjoy regardless of the fare they paid.

But many of these rooms/things you've listed above were also listed in the original "blurb" "a ballroom, theatre, planetarium, library stocked with over 8,000 books..." . A "blurb" of which you said

Not one true word in the whole "blurb"

As the two lists are so similar, are you saying that your list has also "not one true word..."?

Or that the blurb listed those things "that ALL can enjoy regardless of the fare they paid"?

 

As they can't both be true, and I'm confused by these conflicting statements, I do need your kind assistance, and thank you in advance for your clarification :) .

All best wishes for your next voyage.

[Whitemarsh]

My point which some people prefer to overlook, is that the original comments were "advertising " of a sort, telling ALL the readers of ALL the delights they (the average cruiser) can enjoy once they are on the QM2. ALL passengers cannot enjoy ALL the "restaurants".

 

I haven't overlooked anything. Quite the opposite, I'm intrigued by your latest stance, which is, that the Queens & Princess Grills are not restaurants.

 

We're still waiting to find out what they are, if in fact, as you've claimed, they're not restaurants.

 

The article in question is not promotional material issued by Cunard, it's a list of the most luxurious ships in the world according to whoever wrote the article for MSN.

 

Not ALL the items mentioned were open to ALL passengers . Grill passengers can if they wish dine in Britannia, but Britannia passengers cannot dine in the Grills.

 

And this has absolutely nothing at all to do with the article in question, which was/is, simply a list of the amenities on board. Nowhere in the article does it make the claim that all the amenities listed are available to everyone on board.

 

Simply because they are rooms in which a certain group people dine does not mean they should be listed as being available for all to enjoy.

 

Again, the article was simply listing the amenities on board, which is not unusual when it comes to articles about cruise ships.

 

On QM2 a mother and father who are passengers in the Grills could not dine there with their son and daughter if said son and daughter were in Britannia class accommodation.

 

What's that got to do with the price of eggs? I'll tell you - nothing whatsoever to do with the article that the OP referenced. An article that was simply listing the amenities on board.

 

It is my opinion (and I stress MY opinion) that to tell someone thinking of booking QM2 that they can dine in any one of 15 restaurants ( which is implied in the statement ) is incorrect , the majority - over 2000 passengers will not have that choice.

 

But the article doesn't make that claim, it simply lists the amenities on board.

 

Better that Cunard stress its unique qualities, its lectures, library, Queens Room , nightclub, Illuminations, Theatre, Entertainment, things that ALL can enjoy regardless of the fare they paid.

 

Cunard does not have to descend to crass hyperbole .

 

Better by far to tell the truth, not lie to would- be passengers.

 

First you claimed that the Queens & Princess Grill restaurants aren't restaurants (and have yet to tell us what then they are) and now you've moved on to accusing Cunard of descending to "crass hyperbole" and "lying to would be passengers".

 

That's a massive leap to make, especially considering that the article wasn't written by Cunard, makes none of the claims you think it infers, and is simply a list of the amenities on board.

 

The reason some complain about the class distinctions on Cunard , is that they are mislead by publicity pictures, and by reviews that tout certain amenities but fail to mention that they are only available because the writer booked a certain grades of room, , or the writer mentions the therapy pool, steam room etc, and then fails to mention the cost of tickets.

 

You have to be kidding. :rolleyes:

 

So any publicity pictures of something that has an additional cost (such as the spa) needs a big warning splashed across the front "WARNING - EXTRA COST TO USE THIS FACILITY" or this is the equivalent of lies & deception by Cunard?

 

The Cunard website makes it quite clear that the restaurant a prospective passenger eats in is allocated to them depending on the stateroom category they book. The website also has a special page for the Grills and outlines what amenities are available to Grill guests.

 

Additionally the FAQ also makes it clear that the restaurants are allocated per stateroom category.

 

I find it strange in the extreme that an innocuous article touting the amenities on board QM2 has led to wild claims that the Queens & Princess Grills are not restaurants and that Cunard is lying to potential customers.

 

The "crass hyperbole" is (so to speak) firmly on the other foot!

[Whitemarsh]

Unless exceptional circumstances exist, I don't think Grills passengers are allowed to dine in Britannia, so I'm thinking that isn't a restaurant either.

 

Grills passengers can choose to eat in the Britannia restaurant if they so wish, no exceptional circumstances need apply.

 

Which is a good thing, because, as you point out, if they're weren't allowed to then the Britannia restaurant would (under the Jimsgirl criteria) no longer qualify as a restaurant! :eek:

[Pushka]

Grills passengers can choose to eat in the Britannia restaurant if they so wish, no exceptional circumstances need apply.

 

Which is a good thing, because, as you point out, if they're weren't allowed to then the Britannia restaurant would (under the Jimsgirl criteria) no longer qualify as a restaurant! :eek:

 

Phew. Thanks Whitemarsh. I was thinking we were back to just Kings Court to eat. :D

[Whitemarsh]

Phew. Thanks Whitemarsh. I was thinking we were back to just Kings Court to eat. :D

 

Yeah, no worries. Hey, at least you're sorted, you can rest assured that you'll be dining in a restaurant. I'm still stuck in this limbo, waiting for Jimsgirl to tell us what the Queens Grill is - now that she's made it clear that it's not actually a restaurant.

 

Do you suppose it could be a spaceship or an alternative reality? Perhaps time doesn't exist in the Grills and we'll all get younger as the cruise goes on - god that would be great wouldn't it. :D

[pepperrn]

Perhaps time doesn't exist in the Grills and we'll all get younger as the cruise goes on...

Right, that's all the incentive I need, I'm off to book Queens Grill for the next voyage out of Southampton, going anywhere on QM2 (I'll even consider either of the cruise ships :D ); Oh how I'd love to be 107 again... :) .

[Cruachan]

... Oh how I'd love to be 107 again... :) .

 

Do you really mean you would like to go back to the days of sail? I don't thinkso :cool::cool:

 

J

[Whitemarsh]

Right, that's all the incentive I need, I'm off to book Queens Grill for the next voyage out of Southampton, going anywhere on QM2 (I'll even consider either of the cruise ships :D ); Oh how I'd love to be 107 again... :) .

 

I'm right with you there Pepper!! :D

 

When I first learnt, from Jimsgirl, that the Queens & Princess Grills were not restaurants I was initially saddened and confused. But now that there is a chance that the Grills are an alternative universe where passengers can drop a couple of decades over the course of a cruise I'm ecstatic. My next voyage is 42 nights and by my calculations I will be 19 by the time I disembark. :cool:

[Cruachan]

...But now that there is a chance that the Grills are an alternative universe where passengers can drop a couple of decades over the course of a cruise I'm ecstatic...

 

Actually, that works perfectly well throughout the ship. As soon as I step on board and have had time to observe the prevailing demographic, I feel two decades younger straight away! It's one of the main reasons I continue to sail with Cunard :D

 

J

[pepperrn]

Do you really mean you would like to go back to the days of sail? I don't thinkso :cool::cool:J

:) (:rolleyes:)

 

Well... my first ship, when I were a mere lad, had two of every kind of animal on board.

 

:)

[Cruachan]

:) (:rolleyes:)

 

Well... my first ship, when I were a mere lad, had two of every kind of animal on board.

 

:)

 

Good Lord! Were you a cabin boy on a livestock carrier? Nasty job I would have thought. Mucking out must have been interesting :eek::eek:

 

J

[pepperrn]

As soon as I step on board and have had time to observe the prevailing demographic, I feel two decades younger straight away! It's one of the main reasons I continue to sail with Cunard

Does that work like "if you want to look slim, stand next to fat people"?

(This also explains why I've always got people rushing over to me on board and then having their picture taken... :( )

[Whitemarsh]

Actually, that works perfectly well throughout the ship. As soon as I step on board and have had time to observe the prevailing demographic, I feel two decades younger straight away! It's one of the main reasons I continue to sail with Cunard :D

 

J

 

lol :D

 

Now did Cunard advertise this unique selling point clearly in it's brochures and advertising material? I ask because there have been some recent accusations of "lies & deceit" laid at Cunard's door by a certain contributor. I hope that Cunard's supposed tangled web of deception doesn't include a failure to advertise such a benefit to all passengers. :)

[pepperrn]

My next voyage is 42 nights and by my calculations I will be 19 by the time I disembark.

And just think of the fun you can have... being 19... all over again ;) . :)

[fantasy51]

Does that work like "if you want to look slim, stand next to fat people"?

(This also explains why I've always got people rushing over to me on board and then having their picture taken... :( )

 

This could be a major selling point for Cunard. I swear that I looked 2 stone heavier in the photos taken on the MSC ship with my friends than I did in the photo taken by myself on QV last December. Cunard obviously has its ambience just right.

[Dcoy]

And just think of the fun you can have... being 19... all over again ;) . :)

 

But then you're not old enough to drink. :eek:

 

Don

[Pushka]

But then you're not old enough to drink. :eek:

 

Don

 

You are in Australia. ;)

[keithm]

Good Lord! Were you a cabin boy on a livestock carrier? Nasty job I would have thought. Mucking out must have been interesting :eek::eek:

 

J

Yeah, too bad they ate one of the Unicorns. Would like to see one.

[Jimsgirl]

lol :D

 

Now did Cunard advertise this unique selling point clearly in it's brochures and advertising material? I ask because there have been some recent accusations of "lies & deceit" laid at Cunard's door by a certain contributor. I hope that Cunard's supposed tangled web of deception doesn't include a failure to advertise such a benefit to all passengers. :)

 

This "certain contributor" suggests you read posting by a "newbie" re the Cunard advertised dress for men on Ascot night. Now that is without any doubt "misleading".

 

Of course never having travelled in the Grills on Cunard I would not know if that is normal dress for Ascot night there. I am just a "rower' in the "bilges".

 

Which thought causes me to wonder, what is the dress in the Grills for Victorian Ball night ?

Will we see an advert for a Scarlet Pimpernel Ball night, now that would be something to see , men in pink satin pants, white stockings and wigs. Believe ladies in those days had dresses that barely covered their 45D chest protrusions.

 

Even worse think of the delights that await passengers in the 15 restaurants of the food offered in those ages. Pigs feet in aspic, or pigs brains , braised in butter on toast points? . I would most likely not get these delights since as a "ordinary inside cabin tyke" I only have the choice of 12 eating places - and some of those are hardly restaurants!

 

Having lived through rationing in UK during the war, I can attest to the fact that pigs brains on toast are quite tasty, horse meat is better with lots of onions, but do not try Whale steak, it is horrible , but better than camel. You can tell I am quite the gourmand

[seasidegal]

Actually, that works perfectly well throughout the ship. As soon as I step on board and have had time to observe the prevailing demographic, I feel two decades younger straight away! It's one of the main reasns I continue to sail with Cunard :D

 

J

 

Can't ...stop.... laughing:D

 

Forget how many restaurants QM2 has:eek:...this should be the new advert

for Cunard.

 

oh, my aching sides,

seasidegal

[Cruachan]

Can't ...stop.... laughing:D

 

Forget how many restaurants QM2 has:eek:...this should be the new advert

for Cunard.

 

oh, my aching sides,

seasidegal

 

And the shore excursions are even better!!! :cool:

 

J

[3rdGenCunarder]

Actually, that works perfectly well throughout the ship. As soon as I step on board and have had time to observe the prevailing demographic, I feel two decades younger straight away! It's one of the main reasons I continue to sail with Cunard :D

 

J

 

I know what you mean. As we were waiting to board QE2 in NYC some (OK, many :rolleyes:) years ago, I caught myself humming "You Make Me Feel So Young.)

 

Sadly, as time has gone by, the effect has become less noticeable.