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They smoke in enclosed areas.

Smoking has been proved to be detrimental to everyones health.

Understand it is an addicted habit....do have empathy for those that find it hard to give up.

When the word against smoking is brought up on this web site....it seems those that support 'No Smoking' are the evil doowers.When we are really very caring people....that maybe personally have experienced the results of smokings damage to another human being.

 

Would not give it a second thought, if the O/P had asked, should one be allowed to smoke on a cruise ship. I find that many topics are becoming heated debates because we tend to interject our emotional feelings into the topic, instead of answering the question, as presented by the O/P. I am not sure how valuable that ends up being to the O/P, if the subject goes in another direction, prior to someone addressing their concern or question. I think too, that is why we sometimes see a question asked and then the O/P retreats, never to be heard from again. I wonder sometims, if they feel they have lost ownership to the original question.

 

 

Carol

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Would not give it a second thought, if the O/P had asked, should one be allowed to smoke on a cruise ship. I find that many topics are becoming heated debates because we tend to interject our emotional feelings into the topic, instead of answering the question, as presented by the O/P. I am not sure how valuable that ends up being to the O/P, if the subject goes in another direction, prior to someone addressing their concern or question. I think too, that is why we sometimes see a question asked and then the O/P retreats, never to be heard from again. I wonder sometims, if they feel they have lost ownership to the original question.

 

 

Carol

 

After the treatment he has received, I wouldn't be one bit surprised if the OP leaves.

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Smoking and allergies. I have always heard "I am allergic to smoke" when in fact its not the smoke you are allergic to. Does a smoke filled room irritate the mucous membraines ot the eyes, nose ect? Sure it does, even those that smoke will admit to being bothered by smoke at times.

Here is a quote from a web site I visited recently

 

"Although tobacco smoke does not contain allergens that trigger an allergic response, people with allergies may be more sensitive to cigarette smoke than other people, and studies show that tobacco smoke worsens allergic responses to other allergens." http://infotut.com/reference/Health/Conditions_and_Diseases/Allergies/Tobacco_Smoke/

A link to the web site if any one is interested.

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I know that there is no smoking allowed in many areas on the CB, but can you smoke in the open areas like at the pools and on the deck?

 

The left side of the ship is smoking-only if you're facing forward and the right side of the ship is smoking only if you're facing rearward :D

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Please try to smoke on your private balconies. I would rather you smoke outside then in that small cabin. I would not want your cabin the next week.

 

I'd rather be around the smoker for a few min, than the person who takes a bath in their perfume.

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I have enjoyed reading this thread because it brings back all those memories of how it felt to be a "social outcast" and to feel guilty every time I lit up in front of someone who didn't smoke (which made me nervous and I would smoke even more). I even had to have a ciggie in the bathtub. That was twelve years ago. What a GLORIOUS feeling it is to be free of such a self-destructive habit. Now instead of spending all that money on packs of cigs. (31/2 pks. a day) we go on cruises instead...

 

Kathy

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I was wondering how long it would take for someone to claim that smoking is not harmful or that people can't be allergic to cigarette smoke. Tell that to my sinuses after a barrage from tobacco smoke. My answer to the OP is to look for the signs that are posted (and read your Patter). And look out for children. I have seen many people puffing away just a few feet from the children's pool. But mainly, if it is breezy outside (most of the time), be aware that your smoke is going to end up blowing in someone else's face. And that person may not think you're being considerate. I don't think this is a rude response (you may disagree), just a honest one.

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We all have our personal feelings on smoking. The O/P did not ask us what that was, but asked where was it OK to smoke on a particular ship. If one cannot ask a question and those that reply stay on target, what is the individual motivation to pose a question? The poster probably has a Mother that has lectured until she is blue in the face on the negative aspects of smoking. If we use a question to get our personal agenda across to the masses, I think we minimize an opportunity to be helpful to a specific question, somone is interested in getting an answer to. In my mind some of the responses had nothing to do with being helpful to the poster but were meant to assert their own agenda, which really should be the start of a new thread.

 

Carol

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If you don t smoke than don t sit on the smoking side of the ship.

I don t like the smell in the cabin so DH smokes on the balcony, outside.

 

I love the people who sit next to my DH in the smoking section, than sit and wave the smoke away.

 

I think 10% of the people who claim to be allergic to smoke are, the other 90% are full of it.

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Thanks to those of you who gave an honest answer and have taken my defense in the nasty responses that I received.

 

Yes, I only asked for an answer to my question - I didn't ask if anyone approved of smoking, nor did I even state that I smoked! How would you know? I may have been asking for someone else that is in my party.

 

I am a southerner - call me a redneck if you want - but I am proud of where I am from and was taught - "If you can't say something nice - don't say anything at all". The world would be a much better place if we all could live by this rule!

 

I really enjoy the help I get on this board, however, it is really disappointing to see myself and others attacked because of their questions. I read another post where someone was actually made fun of for asking the price of a Coke card! Well, they are probably like myself - NOT rich, like some of you, and need to know these things!

 

In closing - to those of you who despise smoking - I am sure that YOU have some bad habits that I WOULD NOT approve of!

 

I've had my say - thanks for listening.

 

Itp...I'll likely be viewed more of a pariah that the "typical" smoker. I have never smoked cigarettes, cant stand 'em, but love a good CIGAR. I have made 2 calls to Princess just to make sure of the rules because there is some misinformation on the boards on this. According to 2 calls to Princess...and one cust service supervisor...you can smoke cigars (on the CB anyway) in your cabin and on your balcony...also in any open deck area not listed as non-smoking. I know, there is conflicting info on this. My whole purpose was also to be clear on the rules so I knew what was expected of me....rules of which I normally go well beyond anyway. Thanks for the courtesy of asking first.

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The O.P. did not ask for a lecture on the health effects of smoking, allergan triggers, or anything else about his habit. He simply wanted to clarify a policy. It has been clarified. Moving on.

 

For the smoke-haters out there, be thankful that the O.P. had the courtesy to ask such a vital question, and clearly wants to follow the line's policy. Such is to be commended, not attacked.

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The O.P. did not ask for a lecture on the health effects of smoking, allergan triggers, or anything else about his habit. He simply wanted to clarify a policy. It has been clarified. Moving on.

 

For the smoke-haters out there, be thankful that the O.P. had the courtesy to ask such a vital question, and clearly wants to follow the line's policy. Such is to be commended, not attacked.

 

Bravo! I think you have said what needs to be said about all of this.

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Bravo! I think you have said what needs to be said about all of this.

 

I agree with you both........ No more should be said on this topic...... The question was asked and answered...... Done deal..... Move on people......

 

This thread needs to go to...... POOF LAND!!!

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Allergies.........I myself was tested for Allergies many years ago and found out the reason in the presence of smokers......my eyes go red and weepy....my throat fills up with mucus and my throat gets sore......... I am not alone...........

 

That is how I get around perfume! I think we should make everyone leave their bottles at the gangplank!

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Just a final thought -

 

I know non-smokers (most of them) have 0 sympathy for smokers but the changes in recent years have affected the smokers too. A few years back on the ships, there used to be non-smoking and smoking sections in the dining rooms (most people that smoke do enjoy an after dinner coffee with a cigarette), there were non-smoking and smoking sections in all of the show's lounges (most smokers like to enjoy a cigarette with their cocktail of choice) and there were non-smoking and smoking sections in ALL of the bars. Now, of course, there is no smoking in any of the restaurants, no smoking in any of the show lounges, only smoking outside in certain areas and also "smokers" are very limited to certain bars only (and on some ships, only 1, maybe 2) where they can smoke.

 

I know the world is changing and we all have to adhere to the rules. Some cities in the world don't even let you smoke at an outdoor restaurant anymore. While it is good for the non-smokers that they don't have to inhale or be around so much smoke anymore, it definitely has affected the "smokers" in a much more negative way than any non-smoker. It seems to me that the "non-smokers" have far more common areas on the ship to frequent than the "smokers". This is just my humble observation and I am sure if you actually think about what I have written, that many of you may agree - SO PLEASE DON'T ATTACK ME. I just thought I would bring up an interesting point that no one may have thought about before.

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The O.P. did not ask for a lecture on the health effects of smoking, allergan triggers, or anything else about his habit. He simply wanted to clarify a policy. It has been clarified. Moving on.

 

For the smoke-haters out there, be thankful that the O.P. had the courtesy to ask such a vital question, and clearly wants to follow the line's policy. Such is to be commended, not attacked.

 

Amen. Why is it that when this topic comes up so doesn't the nastiness. I usually stay away from this topic, but as a former smoker who quit 3 months ago, smokers know it's a bad habit and don't need you to remind them. It is not easy to quit, so please give it a rest already. The OP asked a question, let's just answer the question and move on.

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'It seems to me that the "non-smokers" have far more common areas on the ship to frequent than the "smokers". '

 

For a good reason. I'm not going to feel sorry for smokers.

 

Maybe I am just not very observant but the only time I saw anywhere near a group of smokers was at the very end of the tables on the designated side of the deck where the pools are. Since I get up very early, I saw where there would be a group out having their coffee. They were all huddled in a tight group. That and the casino. Don't frequent lounges, so could have been there.

I have asthma and was never bothered, one bit.

 

Carol

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  • 3 weeks later...

the people with the addiction are the only ones that should be inconvenienced. Be it drinking, smoking etc.

 

I feel really sorry for smokers. My sister died a horrible death at the old age of 54 from it. I know they are addicted to a horrible drug. But please don't act like you smokers are asking us folks to endure "the passing of a little gas".

 

If inhaling smoke directly is so wonderful....why do smokers use filters on their cigs? We innocent bystanders don't get that priviledge.

 

Perfume may be a pain for a small minority, but it does not contain 3,000 toxins (including arsenic ) many which cause cancer.

 

I realise that this issue will never be resolved. If people are willing to kill themselves and their children...what hope do mere strangers have???

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I do not smoke cigarettes and never have. It is posted and i would say commonly known by most that the port side is smoking and the starboard is smoke free. Now i love my cigars but realize that i am in a rather exclusive club. so if i smoke on deck i try to make sure i am near the last 50 ft. of the ship so everyone else doesn't get to enjoy the cigar as well.

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