Summer Cruise Season 2020 -in the Med?

[clo]

51 minutes ago, ducklite said:

they aren't refunding, just letting you re-book onto something else at a later date.  

I thought it had been pointed out that DOT rules re refunds for cancellations applied to cruises as well as flights. No?

[ducklite]

1 minute ago, clo said:

I thought it had been pointed out that DOT rules re refunds for cancellations applied to cruises as well as flights. No?

This is a weird situation because the cruise was rebooked from a previous cruise where they paid my out of pocket expenses (change fees, etc.) for me to rebook instead of getting a refund.  

Additionally my flights--American is NOT letting me take a refund, and I'd need to use $3500 in airfare by mid November.  It's a mess.

 

[Aplmac]

I just found this ponderous possibility..
that some cruise lines might not make it thru this!

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/121043846/this-could-be-the-end-of-the-line-for-cruise-ships?cid=app-android&fbclid=IwAR3tH4EdxxW_NPoFSdumcjBvlzRVV7fXC4ti2mW1YYV1Um7fDduW87bGzik

[clo]

15 minutes ago, Aplmac said:

I just found this ponderous possibility..
that some cruise lines might not make it thru this!

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/121043846/this-could-be-the-end-of-the-line-for-cruise-ships?cid=app-android&fbclid=IwAR3tH4EdxxW_NPoFSdumcjBvlzRVV7fXC4ti2mW1YYV1Um7fDduW87bGzik

Are you being funny?

[Aplmac]

3 minutes ago, clo said:

Are you being funny?

 

You find it impossible
that COVID-19 could be an existential threat to the cruise industry?
and/or other industries as well?

This is 'not over until The Fat Lady sings'.
She's stuck in traffic right now -she isn't even in the building!

This is 9/11 version 2.0 except this sucker is glo-bal
not just rich white Western nations like in 2001.

I fully understand that it's not the news we want to hear

but the writer is Just Sayin!!

 

[clo]

1 hour ago, Aplmac said:

You find it impossible
that COVID-19 could be an existential threat to the cruise industry?
and/or other industries as well?

I was replying to your comment about some cruise lines might not make it. I'd be willing to bet that a bunch of them won't make it. And if there are any left the industry won't look the same at all. They've suffered a real blow and didn't have a great reputation before.

[clo]

15 minutes ago, clo said:

I was replying to your comment about some cruise lines might not make it. I'd be willing to bet that a bunch of them won't make it. And if there are any left the industry won't look the same at all. They've suffered a real blow and didn't have a great reputation before.

Just found this among a plethora of less than flattering pieces.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/14/cruise-ships-coronavirus-passengers-future

[Aplmac]

16 minutes ago, clo said:

Just found this among a plethora of less than flattering pieces.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/14/cruise-ships-coronavirus-passengers-future

 

Dear oh dear!

 

Although a fair chunk of it is unpleasant truths
I have my doubts about "onboard air pollution was

“comparable to concentrations measured in polluted cities,

including Beijing and Santiago”.

 

Sounds a bit much?

Always found air on board to be OK!

 

[clo]

12 minutes ago, Aplmac said:

 

Dear oh dear!

 

Although a fair chunk of it is unpleasant truths
I have my doubts about "onboard air pollution was

“comparable to concentrations measured in polluted cities,

including Beijing and Santiago”.

 

Sounds a bit much?

Always found air on board to be OK!

 

I think what got me was there were so many things reported on from what appeared to be reputable sources. That's always a big one for me.

[Aplmac]

1 minute ago, clo said:

I think what got me was there were so many things reported on

from what appeared to be reputable sources.

 

But I also thought this was written

by someone who loves to hate the cruise industry

 

and was careful to include the cruise AND SHIPPING/Cargo industries

when telling of staggering levels of pollution
"more than a million cars" -oh the drama! lol

Sounds nearly as bad as those 12-14,000 jets and planes

in the air at 36,000 ft.

at any given time of day or night 24/7/365 (pre-COVID close-down)

pouring pure air and oxygen?? into the atmosphere - lol

from their kerosene-burning exhausts! Happy Earth Day!

 

[clo]

3 minutes ago, Aplmac said:

But I also thought this was written

by someone who loves to hate the cruise industry

I won't deny that at all!

 

Here's a source I use regularly:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/

 

But the truth can certainly be slanted.

[lenquixote66]

15 hours ago, clo said:

I won't deny that at all!

 

Here's a source I use regularly:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/

 

But the truth can certainly be slanted.

I used to read this when it was The Manchester Guardian as well as when it was the Guardian.I assume you read it on line.