Aquahound Posted May 15, 2007 #51 Share Posted May 15, 2007 According to Webster: Cruise - a pleasure voyage, to travel about as for pleasure. Ship - a deep-water vessel; an aircraft or spacecraft to transport. The Empress Of The North seems to fit the definition to me, considering she has a 12'6" draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Harp Posted May 16, 2007 #52 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Fran, The Empress of the North is doing 7 night roundtrips out of Juneau from May til early September. There´s a repositioning cruise Seattle/Juneau (11 nights) at the beginning and the end of the Alaska season. During the rest of the years she´s doing 7 night cruises out of Portland, OR, on the Columbia, Willamette and Snake rivers. In Alaska she´s sailing out of Juneau - Glacier Bay National Park - Skagway - Sitka - Petersburg/Wrangell - Dawes Glacier - Juneau. Prices do include all shore tours. Our route in 2005 was a bit different. We sailed out of Juneau - Skagway - Glacier Bay National Park - Sitka - Petersburg/Wrangell - Misty Fjords/Ketchikan - Frederick Sound/Tracy Arms - Juneau. steamboats So, she's not a flatbottom riverboat, nor a large cruise ship, but technically she does both river and sea.....and they are cruises, whether on river or sea. Sounds like a cruise ship to me....:D Hope she can be repaired and go out again. Thanks, Steamboats.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted May 16, 2007 #53 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Fran, Actually the Alaska Inside Passage is not regarded as "sea" but as inland waters. Therefore a river license is good for steering there too. steamboats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fran Harp Posted May 17, 2007 #54 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Fran, Actually the Alaska Inside Passage is not regarded as "sea" but as inland waters. Therefore a river license is good for steering there too. steamboats I guess I was thinking more of the trip from Seattle up past Victoria. I call that sea :D:D The ferries won't cross the channel if the winds are too high.... Fran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGTNORMANDIE Posted May 18, 2007 #55 Share Posted May 18, 2007 From what I can see of the EMPRESS OF THE NORTH...I can almost guarantee that the hull is wide and shallow...and does not qualify as a "V" shaped hull. Also...see Lloyds Registry of Ships...not Webster's Dictionary...for proper definition of a ship. Again...the true definition is all about the mast configuration...again...THE EMPRESS OF THE NORTH does not qualify as a ship (due to mast configuration) or a "Blue Water" (yachting term) vessel. If it looks like a river boat and acts like a river boat...it must be...- ----- ----!!!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare steamboats Posted May 18, 2007 #56 Share Posted May 18, 2007 CGTNORMANDIE, I totally agree with you regarding the terminology :D . But MAL doesn´t. BTW the Empress of the North is drawing more than 12 ft. On the Mississippi river system a 9 foot channel is guaranteed by the US Army Corps of Engineers. steamboats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphinsc Posted May 18, 2007 #57 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Sounds to me like someone here is arguing just for the sake of arguing and someone else is being quite gracious and accomodating. I'll let you guys guess who's who.......:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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