RocketMan275

every cruise line does something similar.

A scam is a fraudulent or deceptive act or operation. Clearly, claiming something is free when it is not, is a scam.

I saw a similar price drop on a Haven booking about a year ago. NCL told my TA that since Haven was sold out, there was no price drop. My TA told NCL that the Haven could not be sold out since it was possible to book a Haven cabin. I got the FCC.

https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles/scam-or-deal-will-that-cruise-sale-really-save-you-money Passengers 3/4 sail free is a variation on the BOGO scam.

You'll probably find the price per cabin is the same. The cruise lines divide the cabin cost by four unless they advertise 3/4 sail free, then the cruise line divides the cost by two. Example: if a cabin, hypotheticall is $4000, the usual price is $1000 per person if their are four passengers. If the cabin is advertised as 3/4 sail free, then the price is divided by two and the price is $2000 per person. All the cruise lines do something similar.

We also preferred Windjammer to Coastal Kitchens. The italian place was very nice though.

The reason the Haven service charge is higher because of a higher standard of service not because of the butler and the concierge. The reason the butler and concierge are not included is because there is a wide variance in how much passengers choose to use their services. This allows passengers to adjust their gratuities to reflect how much they use t their services. Suggest you refer to this thread:

A report would have ensured he was never on another cruise ship again.

I am not saying Haven employees are union workers. I am saying that Haven employees are strictly limited in what they can do and that does not include anything outside the Haven waiting area. The union employees could perceive NCL employees passing out water, etc., as an enfringement on something that they could be doing which would increase union employment and salaries. If so, the union could file a grievance. No employer wants that to happen.

You really don’t understand how union shops work. If cruise line personnel did any of those things the unions could file a grievance which could result in penalties against the port, the city,and the cruise lines.

Are you saying that NCL should pay the port to provide additional seating, water, better instructions (signage)? BTW, who/how would NCL provide information on wait times?

Storage? We gave it all to Good Will.

I've heard some use air travel and baggage allowances as a factor. Even when we drove to the port, we never took 'dressy clothing'. We spent years in the military where we had to attend 'dressy' parties. We've had enough of 'dressy'. There was a time when we though dressing up was fun. That time is long gone.

Been on Breakaway twice. Have done both Le Bistro and Ocean Blue. Le Bistro by far. The thermador is well worth the upcharge. The Pear Helene is fantastic. Our next cruise is Encore and wife has already told me to book Le Bistro again.

JMHO, but that's a very good thing.