"New" Chef's Table Menu to be on the Breeze :/

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#1
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Anyone else disappointed to find out from Heald's blog today that the Chef's Table menu for the Breeze will be the one currently served on the Magic??

http://johnhealdsblog.com/2012/02/22/a-seat-at-the-top-table/

Unfortunately - that means we will NOT be experiencing the Chef's Table while on the Breeze in 2013.

Even with the Wagyu Beef - I do not believe that menu holds a candle to the original menu that we enjoyed on the Miracle in 2011 - which is still available on some ships - with the Chili Poblano Soup, Chilean Sea Bass and the Filet.

Sadly...we will pass.
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We enjoyed the Chefs table so much on the Miracle, we'd be willing to try a different menu, sticking with just one would get old.
I have to admit that the Sea Bass and Filet will be a hard act to follow, but we'll still give it a try, we loved the whole thing!!!
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#3
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Originally posted by happy cruzin
Anyone else disappointed to find out from Heald's blog today that the Chef's Table menu for the Breeze will be the one currently served on the Magic??

http://johnhealdsblog.com/2012/02/22/a-seat-at-the-top-table/

Unfortunately - that means we will NOT be experiencing the Chef's Table while on the Breeze in 2013.

Even with the Wagyu Beef - I do not believe that menu holds a candle to the original menu that we enjoyed on the Miracle in 2011 - which is still available on some ships - with the Chili Poblano Soup, Chilean Sea Bass and the Filet.

Sadly...we will pass.
Havent tried the new menu but the old one was really good.I have never had a filet that I didnt need a knife to cut.It was crazy
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I'd like to try either menu... but alas both our request on Heald's blog and the email directly to the Maitre'd (no steakhouse on our ship) have gone unanswered. Guess we'll see if there are spots when we get this.


Heald's blog talks a lot about the Wagyu meat- but my understanding is Wagyu is NOT from Japan, that is Kobe beaf. Wagyu is the same, but outside of Japan (maybe US specific?) Any foodies know?
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Originally posted by skittl1321
I'd like to try either menu... but alas both our request on Heald's blog and the email directly to the Maitre'd (no steakhouse on our ship) have gone unanswered. Guess we'll see if there are spots when we get this.


Heald's blog talks a lot about the Wagyu meat- but my understanding is Wagyu is NOT from Japan, that is Kobe beaf. Wagyu is the same, but outside of Japan (maybe US specific?) Any foodies know?
I believe that to be true. "Kobe" is a specific - brand name - for beef from one particular location. Wagyu is of similar quality - but not from that specific location.

We have had Wagyu Beef - while in Vegas. It was very good - and if they had just substituted that for the Filet we would still be considering the "new" menu.

But to me Cornish Game Hen is not on par with the Rock Shrimps nor does the Salmon compare to the Chilean Sea Bass...and Tomatoes - no matter how they are prepared -do not compare to Salmon Tartar.

So sadly - to me - the "new" menu feels like a scaled back version of our original Chef's Table experience.
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#6
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Originally posted by happy cruzin
I believe that to be true. "Kobe" is a specific - brand name - for beef from one particular location. Wagyu is of similar quality - but not from that specific location.

We have had Wagyu Beef - while in Vegas. It was very good - and if they had just substituted that for the Filet we would still be considering the "new" menu.

But to me Cornish Game Hen is not on par with the Rock Shrimps nor does the Salmon compare to the Chilean Sea Bass...and Tomatoes - no matter how they are prepared -do not compare to Salmon Tartar.

So sadly - to me - the "new" menu feels like a scaled back version of our original Chef's Table experience.
I havent been or seen the new menu but they really have cornish game hens.Wow I guess not worth the $150 anymore
#7
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Originally posted by mikel24m
I havent been or seen the new menu but they really have cornish game hens.Wow I guess not worth the $150 anymore
Here 'ya go. It is in the blog link above - but here is a copy.

Looks like the Chocolate Melting Cake is gone too


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Bavarois
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Salmon
Herb Pesto, Cured Tomatoes, Carrots, Fava, Mushroom Earth, Condensed Beets

Wagyu
Slow Stewed short ribs, Potato Pebbles, Pumpkin Fudge, Tomato Dust

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Originally posted by happy cruzin
Here 'ya go. It is in the blog link above - but here is a copy.

Looks like the Chocolate Melting Cake is gone too


Executive Chef Daniel Arulraj welcomes Ms. H82Seaugo
Aboard the Carnival Magic, Tuesday February 21, 2012

RECEPTION

Parmesan Core & Olive
Chorizo & Dates, Piquillo Sofrito
Focaccia, Mascarpone Cream & Prosciutto Crudo
Langoustine & Sundried Tomato Jam Fritters

MENU

Tomatoes Our Way!
Aerated Tomato Juice, Cocoa Butter Coated, Chardonnay Poached

Tuna Banh Mi
Lemon Bread, Sesame Crisp, Miso Cream Avocado gel

Cornish Hen
Caramelized, Butternut Squash, Sofrito

Bavarois
Spinach, Green Peas, Warm Turnip & Apple Juice

Salmon
Herb Pesto, Cured Tomatoes, Carrots, Fava, Mushroom Earth, Condensed Beets

Wagyu
Slow Stewed short ribs, Potato Pebbles, Pumpkin Fudge, Tomato Dust

Dessert
Chef in a Candy Shop
wow short ribs as well .What a shame we had such a great time and the whole experience was awesome.
#9
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Originally posted by happy cruzin
. . . Sadly...we will pass.
I've enjoyed six superb meals at the Chef's Table onboard four separate CCL ships. Yum!!

I'd (in theory) have to join you in passing on the new menu exprience, and choose, instead, to do an additional evening in the Steakhouse, where I know I'd enjoy every single bite put in front of me.
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#10
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Originally posted by mikel24m
wow short ribs as well .what a shame we had such a great time and the whole experience was awesome.
exactly!
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Originally posted by DGP1111
I've enjoyed six superb meals at the Chef's Table onboard four separate CCL ships. Yum!!

I'd (in theory) have to join you in passing on the new menu exprience, and choose, instead, to do an additional evening in the Steakhouse, where I know I'd enjoy every single bite put in front of me.
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......for less than HALF of the cost!
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#12
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Originally posted by skittl1321
I'd like to try either menu... but alas both our request on Heald's blog and the email directly to the Maitre'd (no steakhouse on our ship) have gone unanswered. Guess we'll see if there are spots when we get this.


Heald's blog talks a lot about the Wagyu meat- but my understanding is Wagyu is NOT from Japan, that is Kobe beaf. Wagyu is the same, but outside of Japan (maybe US specific?) Any foodies know?
Wagyu is the breed of cattle
In the Kobe region of Japan , they raise the cattle with a very strict technique / feed and exersize
Which results in very good and highly prized meat
Wagyu cattle is now available thru out the world. But since it is not raised and produced in Kobe ( with thier techniques) it's not the same quality
By the way there is a belief that in Kobe some of the cattle diet includes beer and they massage the cattle
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Originally posted by carsastic
Wagyu is the breed of cattle
In the Kobe region of Japan , they raise the cattle with a very strict technique / feed and exersize
Which results in very good and highly prized meat
Wagyu cattle is now available thru out the world. But since it is not raised and produced in Kobe ( with thier techniques) it's not the same quality
By the way there is a belief that in Kobe some of the cattle diet includes beer and they massage the cattle
Ok....that is just CRAZY!
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Originally posted by carsastic
By the way there is a belief that in Kobe some of the cattle diet includes beer and they massage the cattle

Not a BAD way to spend your last days, Sapporo and Shiatsu.
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Originally posted by crewsweeper
Not a BAD way to spend your last days, Sapporo and Shiatsu.
Ha! Good point
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#16
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Originally posted by carsastic
Wagyu is the breed of cattle
In the Kobe region of Japan , they raise the cattle with a very strict technique / feed and exersize
Which results in very good and highly prized meat
Wagyu cattle is now available thru out the world. But since it is not raised and produced in Kobe ( with thier techniques) it's not the same quality
By the way there is a belief that in Kobe some of the cattle diet includes beer and they massage the cattle
It's true. I saw a show about Kobe beef and they gave the cows beer and massaged the cows. I think it was on the Food channel.
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Oh that's sad. The old menu was delicious! I don't think I could talk my husband into trying the new menu.

Curious to see if anyone has eaten from both and which they liked better.
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No way would I pay $75 for that menu.
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Originally posted by crusinpsychRN
No way would I pay $75 for that menu.
I feel the same way!

The first menu had many unique choices - not available anywhere else on the ship.

I know that the service and presentation is still probably top-notch. But the "new" menu itself comes across to me as "chicken", "salmon" and a "steak" - just a disappointment compared to the original menu

So its just NOT worth the $75/per person fee to do it now....IMHO.
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