NCL's new non smoking police....$250.00 fine

[jolgro]

Holland is stricter all hotels and hotel rooms are non smoking...

 

 

I only live there. Never on vacation in my own country, to much change of rain.;)

 

As I said as an astma patient wish a world with no cigarettes at all. But my husband is a smoker he wants the oposite. So we trie to respect eachother. He doesn't smoke in the house or wherever I am, and I respect his way of living. And so it should be everywhere. We will never book a smokefree cruiseline, NCL is perfect for us.

 

Btw; is it true that you can not smoke outdoors or in public areas/parks in New York? We booked a smokefree room ( for me) in a hotel with no balcony. Can DH smoke on the streets? Otherwise he is freaking out ( or how do you say it) before we board the Jewel:D:D

[NJGeorge]

I only live there. Never on vacation in my own country, to much change of rain.;)

 

As I said as an astma patient wish a world with no cigarettes at all. But my husband is a smoker he wants the oposite. So we trie to respect eachother. He doesn't smoke in the house or wherever I am, and I respect his way of living. And so it should be everywhere. We will never book a smokefree cruiseline, NCL is perfect for us.

 

Btw; is it true that you can not smoke outdoors or in public areas/parks in New York? We booked a smokefree room ( for me) in a hotel with no balcony. Can DH smoke on the streets? Otherwise he is freaking out ( or how do you say it) before we board the Jewel:D:D

 

Yes it is true.

There are areas on the streets to smoke.

While it's a "law" I don't think you'll need to worry about having to bail out your husband from the slammer!

 

And Atlantic City Casinos are also non-smoking.

[fletchers5]

I think of myself as a very considerate SMOKER. If I am at a smoking casino and I go to sit down at a machine and there are people on both sides of me....I WILL NOT light up a cigarette UNLESS they are BOTH smoking.

 

If I sit at a machine where there is NO ONE near me, I will light up. If someone comes and sits beside me..I DO NOT put my cigarette out. I figure that they know that I am smoking and if it bothers them, then they would not have sat down beside me.

[JP4GA]

I am not a smoker... I hate the smell but that does not mean I don't like and respect smokers. I stay out of thier areas and I hope that they will respect the rules and non-smokers enough to not light up while in non-smoking areas.

 

Some non-smokers need to remember that smokers can NOT control the way the winds blow. On our last cruise one day while we were in port an up-tight nonsmoker got upset and started yelling at a group of smokers because thier smoke was blowing into the non-smoking area. The smokers were doing nothing wrong, the wind shifted. Not a big deal. Most of the smokers noticed the change in the breeze and moved a little further away before anyone said anything. Did they have to move? NO. Did I appreicated that they moved? Yes. Was the yelling lady out of line? Yes.

 

It all about respecting each other. I like the option of non-smoking rooms and it really ticks me off when I have booked a non-smoking room and the previous guest have smoked, sometimes there is just no getting the smell out of a room even with deep cleaning.

[Diamond60]

I'll do the same exact thing. Also, I'll walk a little distance away from peope if I'm in a group, to smoke. It's all about being considerate on both sides.

[emcelh]

I agree

 

 

As much as NCL claims this is "cleaning" of cabins I would fully believe this came from screaming of customers. And the only reason this charge was put in place was to hopefully give an incentive for people to follow this policy. Unlike all of the rest of their policies that so many figure aren't worth following, booze, kids across halls, loungers etc. The problem with putting it in place to appease the screamers as said above it just opened up a whole new can of worms for even those non-smokers who didn't have an issue with cabins because the crew did a fabulous job (so weren't screaming either) and doesn't give the smoker any private space except their balcony, which now will affect more of those who didn't have an issue with inside cabins.

 

You may be right but it will make cleaning of cabins easier. The crew did a great job of eliminating any odors in the cabins and I've never been able to tell if someone had smoked in the room (unlike some hotel rooms). I smoked for 40 years and quit a few years ago after a heart attack. If I walked into a cabin where someone had been smoking back then, I wouldn't have noticed because I couldn' t smell anything anyway.

[gelo7]

Wow...

[smeyer418]

its true that the NY City public parks are non-smoking but you can freely light up on any street. consideration of your fellow walkers not by the doorway of buildings....

also outdoor cafes are allowed to have a small smoking section although most do not...

many stores have benches outside and smoking is permitted on them(although some have no smoking signs)

[che5904]

You may be right but it will make cleaning of cabins easier. The crew did a great job of eliminating any odors in the cabins and I've never been able to tell if someone had smoked in the room (unlike some hotel rooms). I smoked for 40 years and quit a few years ago after a heart attack. If I walked into a cabin where someone had been smoking back then, I wouldn't have noticed because I couldn' t smell anything anyway.

 

 

I agree that it makes cabins easier to clean but NCL themselves admit to doing this through customer pressure. So my point to the post as I said was the squeaky wheel gets the grease. They would have no idea what the preferences were for those that wanted it to remain in the cabins or those that were fine with it in there because those were the people that wouldn't be saying anything to them, content with what was there. The only preferences they would be hearing from were from those against it.

 

Press release.

Norwegian Cruise Line Updates Smoking Policy Fleet-Wide

Smoking will no longer be permitted in guest staterooms

 

Miami - Aug 8, 2011 ---

MIAMI – August 09, 2011 - Norwegian Cruise Line today announced adjustments to its smoking policy for each of the line’s 11 Freestyle Cruising ships in response to changing guest preferences. Effective January 2012, guests setting sail on a Norwegian cruise vacation are no longer permitted to smoke cigarettes in their staterooms. Guests who are in a balcony stateroom will be permitted to smoke on the outside balcony; however, cigar and pipe smoking in staterooms and on balconies is prohibited. Ashtrays will be available for use upon request through housekeeping staff.

 

In an effort to diminish the presence of smoke indoors, cigarette smoking is only permitted in the casino, where ashtrays and appropriate signage will be displayed. Smoking is prohibited in all other public interior venues including all bars, restaurants, conference rooms, corridors, restrooms, staircases and landings. Guests may utilize the enclosed cigar bars on board Norwegian Epic, Norwegian Gem, Norwegian Pearl, Norwegian Dawn and Norwegian Spirit for cigarette, cigar and pipe smoking.

 

In addition, the policy allows guests to smoke cigarettes, cigars and pipes in outdoor public guest spaces and open decks, where designated by the appropriate signage. Smoking is not permitted near outdoor venues which serve food, in open spaces such as the jogging track, sport complex, children’s pool and in The Haven outdoor areas.

[shepherdqueen]

As an asthmatic, non-smoker, we just booked our first balcony (aft!) to celebrate our 10th anniversary. Previously, we have always sailed in an inside. I am hoping we do not have smoking neighbors, but if we do, I plan to be as polite as possible, and hope they are as respectful. :)

[time2cruise1]

As a smoker the biggest problem in restricting smoking in cabins is the casino becomes the only indoor space to smoke making it unbearable even for a smoker. The show gets out and 150 non gamblers hit the casino and light up. Everyone slips away from the bars and stands buy the entrance creating a wall of smoke fr those passing by. I noticed this huge difference on the Star between October onboard before the change and back onboard in January after the change. I

 

 

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[Travelnuts Wife]

I go to Atlantic City casinos at least once a month and smoking is allowed in about 30% of all casinos. Non smokers come into the smoking areas and complain and I just let them know that the majority of the casino is smoke free so I won't smoke in those areas so why are they coming into a smoking area and complaining. Some people are just never happy. We all do need to be considerate but some people take things to far.

[cutiepiefred]

Again, the question. Does anyone know someone who has been charged the $250?

 

YES.... i posted that our neighbors on our last cruise got charged 250 per day for the first 2 days then they got booted off the ship on day 3

[time2cruise1]

YES.... i posted that our neighbors on our last cruise got charged 250 per day for the first 2 days then they got booted off the ship on day 3

 

What cruise line was that on? :confused:

[cutiepiefred]

What cruise line was that on? :confused:

 

It was on carnival Legend.

[che5904]

It was on carnival Legend.

 

I think that poster and the OP were actually asking if NCL had done this yet?

 

I love NCL, but they are not really known for enforcing many policies they set in place.

[time2cruise1]

It was on carnival Legend.

 

And Carnival's rules are very different. None of this from their contract appears in NCL's contract.

 

Smoking is prohibited in all public areas except in designated exterior open deck areas, certain dance and jazz clubs, and designated areas in the casino. The Spa suite and stateroom accommodations are an entirely smoke free environment, including the outside balcony. Effective December 1, 2011 smoking is prohibited in all staterooms. Beginning December 1, 2011, Guests with a balcony stateroom may only smoke outside on their balcony. Guest agrees to strictly comply with Carnival's non-smoking policy. Guest further acknowledges and agrees that any violation of this policy shall, in the sole discretion of Carnival, constitute a material breach of this cruise contract. In the event of such breach, Guest forfeits all rights hereunder, including the right to remain on board. Carnival reserves the right to disembark the Guest(s), at any port, as determined by Carnival. Carnival shall not be liable for any refund or other compensation or damages whatsoever to any Guest disembarked pursuant to this provision, or who disembarks because another Guest is so disembarked, and all such Guests forfeit all rights under Carnival's "Vacation Guarantee.

 

 

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[Wecruise8]

I can tell you that NCL changed ALL the linen duvet and bed covers at the end of a cruise in any cabin where there was a smoker.

 

I would certainly hope that regardless of who is in the room ALL the linen was changed anyway. That's just icky to think that they wouldn't .:eek:

[CrusinElf]

I can tell you that NCL changed ALL the linen duvet and bed covers at the end of a cruise in any cabin where there was a smoker.

 

I would certainly hope that regardless of who is in the room ALL the linen was changed anyway. That's just icky to think that they wouldn't .:eek:

 

No kidding!!! Yuck indeed!

 

Elf

[smeyer418]

they don't automatically change the bed covers or beds that were not used...

[BetsyBoots]

What happens if you smoke on your balcony and your door is open and the smoke goes in your room?

 

 

HMMM...Your room might smell like smoke......I dont think theyd be able to prove you actually smoked in your room and think the $250.00 fine is a Deterent Only and WONT Be Enforced....

 

I will be smoking on our balcony this coming May and in the Casino.......

That is what happended to me on RCL last year..I would smoke on the balcony withthr door opn..Dure enough, one morning the supervisor tapped on the door and advised me that I must keep the balcony door closed and I would be fined 250 if I did not comply ! I was surprised that the smoke really traveled that far, but I guess it did !

[jdvmd]

It's a per instance fine.

[palmyrafan]

I seriously hope this doesn't draw anyone's ire, but I'm tired of hearing about smokers' rights. They always say, "what about my rights"?

 

Your rights end where mine begin. Within my 3 feet of personal space.

 

Some of us actually have allergies and it is no fun walking around with a surgical face mask and/or an inhaler for those who have no qualms about lighting up anywhere and anytime they can.

 

Just MHO.

[time2cruise1]

It's a per instance fine.

 

Not on NCL.

 

 

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[sjbdtz]

I seriously hope this doesn't draw anyone's ire, but I'm tired of hearing about smokers' rights. They always say, "what about my rights"?

 

Your rights end where mine begin. Within my 3 feet of personal space.

 

Some of us actually have allergies and it is no fun walking around with a surgical face mask and/or an inhaler for those who have no qualms about lighting up anywhere and anytime they can.

 

Just MHO.

 

 

I smoked a pack-a-day for 20+ years.....and I understand the concept of "smoker's rights".

 

However, I quit cold-turkey 11+ years ago, and I understand that it's hogwash. :)

 

 

 

There is no "right" to smoke where you wish. You are (currently) free to smoke, in designated areas...which may change from time-to-time.

 

 

Sorry, smoker friends. I guess we can't always think alike. :)

 

 

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