carnival to start head counts at muster drills!

[H82seaUgo]

Correct, that would be impossible... I just thought it odd you actually care about anything CCL does.

 

you mean enhancing something? yes, they are rare, but are worth mentioning.

[btrbill]

you mean enhancing something? yes, they are rare, but are worth mentioning.

 

You better be careful!! With a semi-positive statement like that John might start saying nice things about you!

[conchead]

I think it's ridiculous that these drills are mandatory. Once you attend one, it's the same thing on every cruise going forward! As long as you know where your muster station is, that's all that changes from cruise to cruise! If you don't attend, you're not hurting anyone but yourself!

 

Well bless your heart...:rolleyes:

 

In an emergency you could stay in your cabin and drown like a trapped rat

and I wouldn't care at all...But, if you hinder me, my family or others by not knowing what

to do or where to go, That is a problem!

[WiCruiseDreamer]

At the muster drill, they give the seemingly contradictory info that "families will not be split apart", and then they say "women and children first". Either they are lying in one of those rules, or they are so callous that they don't even consider men to be part of a family.

 

I do not believe that I have every heard it express specifically women and children first. However, I would want any and all children to be off first and then one of their parents with them. Yes, families should be kept together if at all possible.

 

[waldocruiser1]

Well bless your heart...:rolleyes:

 

In an emergency you could stay in your cabin and drown like a trapped rat

and I wouldn't care at all...But, if you hinder me, my family or others by not knowing what

to do or where to go, That is a problem!

 

And what about the emergency people that have to go looking for the dead rats in their rooms, and they drown?

 

As for the woman and children first thing, if I am there with my wife, I will get on the boat with her, or accidently fall in the boat.

[waldocruiser1]

So with all this talk about muster drills, I have a question,

 

During the drill they show you where to go in an emergency.

and that if there is an emergency you are to go to your cabin and get your life jacket, then go to your station.

 

How many are going to do that?

 

If I am on the port side of the lido deck on the ship, and we hit a (fill in the blank) and have to abandon ship, are you going back to your room on deck 3 to get your life jacket, or going to deck 5/6 for the life boat nearest you? And when you get there, are they going to turn you away, because it is not your station, and tell you that you have to stay on the ship and go to your area?

[cathyz]

Haven't read through every post yet, but on my last cruise they had someone going thru with one of those handheld clicker thingees counting people. Never saw them asking anyone which cabin they were in or anything like that.

We had the same thing on our last cruise on the Spirit.

[waldocruiser1]

Here is my idea for the muster drill,

 

They sound the signal to go to the drill, and at the same time, all s/s cards are locked so you can open your cabin 1 time, and can use your card for anything else, until after the drill.

1. you go to the area

2. when 10/12 people are there, they start a briefing for that group

3. when done they scan your card and you leave.

4. because they scanned your card, your card is now unlocked and you can resume spending money, opening your cabin door, playing in the casino, what ever.

5. if you did not get scanned, you can not use your card for anything, until unlocked by a ship officer/guest relations.

 

now

 

if you skipped the drill or your card was not scanned correctly, you have to go through the drill again, THE LONG VERSION, before your card is unlocked.

[ItsAllAboutTheSass]

So with all this talk about muster drills, I have a question,

 

During the drill they show you where to go in an emergency.

and that if there is an emergency you are to go to your cabin and get your life jacket, then go to your station.

 

How many are going to do that?

 

If I am on the port side of the lido deck on the ship, and we hit a (fill in the blank) and have to abandon ship, are you going back to your room on deck 3 to get your life jacket, or going to deck 5/6 for the life boat nearest you? And when you get there, are they going to turn you away, because it is not your station, and tell you that you have to stay on the ship and go to your area?

 

If I remember correctly, on my Pride cruise in April they did state to not go back and retrieve your vest and there were vests at the Muster Station.

[serene56]

I don't think this is anything new. I recall that in the past (yep, WAY in the past) they used to have the list of passengers, and they'd check you off when you arrived at the muster station. Makes perfect sense to me. ;)

 

"SKY"

 

In 16 cruises I never had anyone ask me my name when I was attending safety briefing. In the past my life jacket had my cabin number on it but we no longer need to take those with us.

 

If this is truly the case-- I will stay in the cabin as long as possible before heading down. ( for one-- I remember going through another door then where I was supposed to be---

 

nope, cant see them asking for names.

 

Now on our Legend cruise this past January== someone was checking cabins. and after standing what seemed like an eternity those cabin numbers cam over the loud speaker to say they were holding us all up and please report to your station.

[HarpHarp]

It's about time, NCL has been doing this for years.

 

I didn't understand what all the fuss was about. I'm about to take my 2nd CCL cruise, and that was so long ago, I didn't remember how muster was done.

on NCL they check you off by cabin # at the muster station.

They are inside, which is where you are supposed to report with MANY crew members assigned to each station. We were told they would lead us to the lifeboats. This would reduce panic I'm sure. The Concordia and the Titanic for that matter took a long time to sink and list. In the case of the Concordia, it seem that command totally broke down. I do remeber seeing video of one of the stations where I think the Dr,with the emergency clipboard in hand, was in charge. No panicked pax, yes upset & confused but they listened to the Dr. who was supposed to know what to do.

For those who don't think they need to go to the muster drill, please go read The Survivors Club by Ben Sherwood befor your next cruise

[waldocruiser1]

I can't believe that in 61 posts nobody has asked what type of Mustard they have at the Mustard drill?

[foxesden1]

I was on the Star Princess last week and they did this. When you entered your assigned muster area, they scanned your sail and sign card with a hand held scanner not much bigger than a book. In fact, they used the same little scanner to get on and off the ship, getting on they had four people with them, made things faster.

 

Royal also does this. I think half of CCL trouble is the drink pushing that happens the first few hours of the cruise :rolleyes:

[Chelleum]

This is only going to make it last that much longer so though it is good those they have to hunt down r going to f this up for everyone else.

 

Good to know they're going to be doing head counts.

[l2c4fun]

I really thought they did this on our cruise in May. They counted, reported the numbers and then the other side of the ship was released from the drill. We had a few stragglers show up, they were counted and we got released. This was my first cruise so I guess I'm not aware if this is the norm.

[fig414]

The people who are against counting heads are the same ones who pay no attention to all the other "rules" on a cruise. Muster is nothing. Dress code is nothing. Saving seats is nothing, etc etc. It's 'their vacation" and they work during the week and blah, blah blah.

[HeatherC430]

How did I know I'd be flamed for my opinion on this one?

 

For the record, I'm not one of those people who don't pay attention during the drills. All I'm saying is that I've NEVER learned anything new after attending the first few drills. And I'll never be the one to jeopardize the safety of your precious family.

[H82seaUgo]

How did I know I'd be flamed for my opinion on this one?

 

For the record, I'm not one of those people who don't pay attention during the drills. All I'm saying is that I've NEVER learned anything new after attending the first few drills. And I'll never be the one to jeopardize the safety of your precious family.

 

you should back that prognostication up with donning a blindfold, and showing us how you can make it from your cabin to your lifeboat, possibly while crawling to avoid the smoke.

 

i wonder if it surprises you that people die trying to escape their own homes, yet they surely know how to get out, right?

[richstowe]

Good Lord....why would anyone be happy about this???

I don't get it either. Does this eliminate Costa disasters? Of course not. Truly a waste of time.

People in favor also agree that making 70 year old grandmoms take off their shoes at airports makes us safer.

Its just useless theater.

[H82seaUgo]

I don't get it either. Does this eliminate Costa disasters? Of course not. Truly a waste of time.

People in favor also agree that making 70 year old grandmoms take off their shoes at airports makes us safer.

Its just useless theater.

 

yet 32 died. why them, and not the other 4000?

 

i don't ever intend my family or i to be part of that 32, regardless of the stage.

 

ymmv

[Half Pint]

Drills are for the cruise line, not for us.

 

And don't tell me that by others going it will be safer for me. If the unthinkable happens, nobody will remember squat about what they did or did not learn in any drill. You best be prepared to help yourself. Always.

 

Muster drills are for the passengers. The crew knows what to do in an emergency (lots of practice), most passengers have no clue.

[halos]

Good Lord....why would anyone be happy about this???

It's only an issue when people don't show up. I have head a head count on a few cruises (not CCL) and the muster took no longer than usual.

[Half Pint]

I do not believe that I have every heard it express specifically women and children first. However, I would want any and all children to be off first and then one of their parents with them. Yes, families should be kept together if at all possible.

 

 

Our last cruise a couple weeks ago, it was "women and children first".

[dznymom]

The muster on the Glory last week took much longer than I am accustomed to on NCL where they do check off stateroom numbers. I have no idea why they kept announcing over the loudspeaker for us to be quiet because the drill could not start until there was complete silence. Clearly, the reason for the delay had nothing to do with quiet. It was simply a poorly run drill and didn't do much to inspire confidence.

[sjcruiser]

Here's some information from my review on the Muster Process for my recent Miracle cruise on June 23rd.

 

Muster Drill was soon announced, and was pretty painless, although not efficient/organized. Comparing Carnival to Royal Caribbean, on Carnival you’re packed on deck in a disorderly fashion and the crew missed several people including children during their passenger count. On the cruises I’ve been on with Royal, you’re lined up in rows, which make it easier to get an accurate count.