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:confused:Okay, I know that this is like asking how long is a piece of string, but just working on an average - not vinegar, and not premium Chateau Lafite either - bottle of wine, say a decent red table wine or a perfectly drinkable bubbly, what is the approximate cost of a bottle of wine in the MDR? This will factor into our decision of whether or not to bring wine on board with us, or how much to bring, when we cruise in January. It's really relevant also because if we bring a few bottles on board we will need to buy them in Singapore, and wine there is way more expensive than it is here in Australia.

 

The price of bottles of spirits onboard is pretty good so that's not an issue, but we really need some guidance on the wine. And we are aware that if we take our own bottle of wine to the MDR we will be charged that massive corkage fee, so need to take that into consideration also in our decision.

 

Cheers folks .. Bev :)

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Bev,

 

The list below is from Eurodam in August-September 2011, but may give you an idea of the range of prices. They are listed in US dollars:

 

Eurodam regular wine list

 

Wines by the glass

 

Champagne and Sparkling:

- Pierre Larousse, France, $6

- G.H. Mimm Courdon Rouge, $12

- Veuve Clicquot Yellow Label, $14.50

 

White wines

- Woodbridge White Zinfandel, $5.50

- Chateau Ste. Michelle Reisling, $6

- Blackstone Sauvignon Blanc, $7

- Villa Maria Sauvignon Blanc, $9.50

- Ruffino Pinot Grigio, $8

- Alice White Chardonnay, $6

- Rosemont Estate Chardonnay, $7

- Beringer Chardonnay, $9.50

 

Red wines

- Meridian Pinot Noir, $7.50

- Alice White Shiraz, $6

- Rosemont Estate Shiraz, $8

- Woodbridge Twin Oaks Carbernet Sauvignon, $6

- Wolf Blass Cabernet Sauvignon, Australia, $9

- Beringer Founder’s Estate Cabernet Sauvignon, $8

- Guenoc Cabernet Sauvignon, $7

- Columbia Crest Grand Estates Merlot, $9.50

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Wines by the bottle

 

White and Rose’ wines

- Rose’ Spatburgunder, Germany, $39

- Rose’ Chateau D’Angles, France, $39

- Kreusch Piierporter Reisling Spaetlese, Germany, $25

- Beringer Pinot Grigio, California, $25

- Schloss Vollrads Reisling, Germany, $49

- Sander Reisling, Germany, $39

- Ruffino Pinot Grigio, Italy, $39

- Kenwood Sauvignon Blanc, California, $37

- Villa Maria Sauvignon Blanc, New Zealand, $45

- Michel Redde Pouille Fume’, France, $59

- Hedges CMS White, Washington State, $49

- Macon Village Joseph Drouhin, France, $49

- Chateau Ste. Michelle Reisling, Washington State, $39

- Robert Mondavi Sauvignon Blanc, California, $35

- Caliterra Saugivnon Blanc, Chile, $25

- Laboure’-Roi Pouilly Fuisee’, France, $54

- Alice White Chardonnay, Australia, $27

- Louis Latour Bourgogne Chardonnay, France, $49

- Georges Debeouf Macon-Villages, France, $35

- Footprint Chardonnay, South Africa, $29

- Rosemont Estate Chardonnay, Australia, $29

- Caliterra Chardonnay, Chile, $29

- Domaine Larouche Chablis Premier Cru, France, $49

- Louis Jadot Puligny-Montrachet, France, $89

- Beringer Chardonnay, California, $45

- Horse Heaven Chardonnay Blanc, Washington State, $55

- Franciscan Chardonnay, California, $47

- Merryvale Starmont Chardonnay, California, $59

- Lanzerac Chardonnay, South Africa, $65

- Ferrari-Carano Chardonnay, California, $69

- Canoe Ridge Estate Chardonnay, Washington State, $69

- Apex Chardonnay, Washington State, $75

- Conuncrum, California, $39

 

Red wines

- Castle Rock Cuvee’ Pinot Noir, California, $37

- Meridian Pinot Noir, California, $37

- Sokol Blosser Pinot Noir, Oregon, $69

- Laboure’-Roi Pommard, France, $69

- Georges Debeouf Beaujolais Villages, France, $25

- Villa Fiorita Barbera D’Asti Superiore, Italy, $54

- Antinori Santa Cristina Sangiovese, Italy, $29

- Sangre De Toro, Spain, $39

- Perrin Reserve Cotes-Du-Rhone, France, $39

- Les Closiers Chateauneuf-Du-Pape, France, $59

- Marques De CaceresRioja, Spain, $29

- Arboleda Carmenere, Chile, $49

- Francis-Coppola Claret, California, $49

- Rosemont Estate Shiraz, Australia, $39

- Footprint Shiraz, South Africa, $29

- Alice White Shiraz, Australia, $27

- Cline Cellars Zinfandel, California, $35

- Trentadue Old Patch Red, California, $49

- Columbia Crest Grand Estates Merlot, Washington State, $45

- Beringer Stone Cellars Merlot, California, $27

- Robert Mondavi Merlot, California, $37

- Hedges Red Mountain Three Vinyards, Washington State, $69

- Columbia Crest Two Vines Merlot, Washington State, $45

- Columbia Crest Grand Estates Cabernet Sauvignon, Wash. St., $45

- Twin Oaks Woodbridge Cabernet Sauvignon, California, $27

- Spellbound Petite Sirah, California, $45

- Beringer Founder’s Estate Cabernet Sauvignon, California, $39

- Guenoc Cabernet Sauvignon, California, $35

- Wolf Blass Cabernet Sauvignon, Australia, $42

- Meritage Franciscan Magnificat, California, $79

- Silverado Cabernet Sauvignon, California, $79

- Northstar Merlot, Washington State, $89

- Barbi Brunello Di Montalcino 2006, Italy, $89

- Castello Banfi Brunello Di Montalcino 2006, Italy, $108

 

Champagne and Sparkling wines

- Domaine Chandon, California, $47

- Domaine Ste. Michelle Brut, Washington State, $39

- G.H. Mumm Cordon Rouge, France, $59

- Moet & Chandon Brut Imperial, France, $89

- Veuve Clicquot Yellow Label N.V., France, $89

- Taittinger Cuvee Prestige Rose, France, $99

- Dom Perignon Moet & Chandon, France, $199

 

Have a great cruise!

 

Dave

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Bev,

 

The list below is from Eurodam in August-September 2011, but may give you an idea of the range of prices. They are listed in US dollars:

 

Eurodam regular wine list

 

Wines by the glass

 

Champagne and Sparkling:

- Pierre Larousse, France, $6

- G.H. Mimm Courdon Rouge, $12

- Veuve Clicquot Yellow Label, $14.50

 

White wines

- Woodbridge White Zinfandel, $5.50

- Chateau Ste. Michelle Reisling, $6

- Blackstone Sauvignon Blanc, $7

- Villa Maria Sauvignon Blanc, $9.50

- Ruffino Pinot Grigio, $8

- Alice White Chardonnay, $6

- Rosemont Estate Chardonnay, $7

- Beringer Chardonnay, $9.50

 

Red wines

- Meridian Pinot Noir, $7.50

- Alice White Shiraz, $6

- Rosemont Estate Shiraz, $8

- Woodbridge Twin Oaks Carbernet Sauvignon, $6

- Wolf Blass Cabernet Sauvignon, Australia, $9

- Beringer Founder’s Estate Cabernet Sauvignon, $8

- Guenoc Cabernet Sauvignon, $7

- Columbia Crest Grand Estates Merlot, $9.50

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Wines by the bottle

 

White and Rose’ wines

- Rose’ Spatburgunder, Germany, $39

- Rose’ Chateau D’Angles, France, $39

- Kreusch Piierporter Reisling Spaetlese, Germany, $25

- Beringer Pinot Grigio, California, $25

- Schloss Vollrads Reisling, Germany, $49

- Sander Reisling, Germany, $39

- Ruffino Pinot Grigio, Italy, $39

- Kenwood Sauvignon Blanc, California, $37

- Villa Maria Sauvignon Blanc, New Zealand, $45

- Michel Redde Pouille Fume’, France, $59

- Hedges CMS White, Washington State, $49

- Macon Village Joseph Drouhin, France, $49

- Chateau Ste. Michelle Reisling, Washington State, $39

- Robert Mondavi Sauvignon Blanc, California, $35

- Caliterra Saugivnon Blanc, Chile, $25

- Laboure’-Roi Pouilly Fuisee’, France, $54

- Alice White Chardonnay, Australia, $27

- Louis Latour Bourgogne Chardonnay, France, $49

- Georges Debeouf Macon-Villages, France, $35

- Footprint Chardonnay, South Africa, $29

- Rosemont Estate Chardonnay, Australia, $29

- Caliterra Chardonnay, Chile, $29

- Domaine Larouche Chablis Premier Cru, France, $49

- Louis Jadot Puligny-Montrachet, France, $89

- Beringer Chardonnay, California, $45

- Horse Heaven Chardonnay Blanc, Washington State, $55

- Franciscan Chardonnay, California, $47

- Merryvale Starmont Chardonnay, California, $59

- Lanzerac Chardonnay, South Africa, $65

- Ferrari-Carano Chardonnay, California, $69

- Canoe Ridge Estate Chardonnay, Washington State, $69

- Apex Chardonnay, Washington State, $75

- Conuncrum, California, $39

 

Red wines

- Castle Rock Cuvee’ Pinot Noir, California, $37

- Meridian Pinot Noir, California, $37

- Sokol Blosser Pinot Noir, Oregon, $69

- Laboure’-Roi Pommard, France, $69

- Georges Debeouf Beaujolais Villages, France, $25

- Villa Fiorita Barbera D’Asti Superiore, Italy, $54

- Antinori Santa Cristina Sangiovese, Italy, $29

- Sangre De Toro, Spain, $39

- Perrin Reserve Cotes-Du-Rhone, France, $39

- Les Closiers Chateauneuf-Du-Pape, France, $59

- Marques De CaceresRioja, Spain, $29

- Arboleda Carmenere, Chile, $49

- Francis-Coppola Claret, California, $49

- Rosemont Estate Shiraz, Australia, $39

- Footprint Shiraz, South Africa, $29

- Alice White Shiraz, Australia, $27

- Cline Cellars Zinfandel, California, $35

- Trentadue Old Patch Red, California, $49

- Columbia Crest Grand Estates Merlot, Washington State, $45

- Beringer Stone Cellars Merlot, California, $27

- Robert Mondavi Merlot, California, $37

- Hedges Red Mountain Three Vinyards, Washington State, $69

- Columbia Crest Two Vines Merlot, Washington State, $45

- Columbia Crest Grand Estates Cabernet Sauvignon, Wash. St., $45

- Twin Oaks Woodbridge Cabernet Sauvignon, California, $27

- Spellbound Petite Sirah, California, $45

- Beringer Founder’s Estate Cabernet Sauvignon, California, $39

- Guenoc Cabernet Sauvignon, California, $35

- Wolf Blass Cabernet Sauvignon, Australia, $42

- Meritage Franciscan Magnificat, California, $79

- Silverado Cabernet Sauvignon, California, $79

- Northstar Merlot, Washington State, $89

- Barbi Brunello Di Montalcino 2006, Italy, $89

- Castello Banfi Brunello Di Montalcino 2006, Italy, $108

 

Champagne and Sparkling wines

- Domaine Chandon, California, $47

- Domaine Ste. Michelle Brut, Washington State, $39

- G.H. Mumm Cordon Rouge, France, $59

- Moet & Chandon Brut Imperial, France, $89

- Veuve Clicquot Yellow Label N.V., France, $89

- Taittinger Cuvee Prestige Rose, France, $99

- Dom Perignon Moet & Chandon, France, $199

 

Have a great cruise!

 

Dave

 

Dave, thank you so much for this information - it is more than I could have hoped for, and I really appreciate it. That solves the whole issue for us as some of the prices here are what we pay in our local bottle shop anyway, for instance the George Debeouf Beaujolais, which is a favourite, is actually $5 less than we pay here, and the Rosemount is cheaper than we pay if we order it in a restaurant. This just confirms for us that there is no need to take a mini-wine cellar on board with us as we are more than happy to pay the asking prices, particularly for the bubbly.

 

And may I say, Dave, that you do look awfully spiffing in that tuxedo - see, formal gear does look lovely, doesn't it. Again, thank you for your kindness in posting this wine list and for your well wishes for our cruise (it is our first ever, and to celebrate my husband David's 50th birthday).

 

Cheers .. Bev :)

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Bev:

 

I find that the wines are pretty decent onboard. I've also carted on wines when we leave from Florida and pay the corkage fee. I splurge on some really nice wines. We are 3-star Mariners, so get a discount on packages and that makes it more attractive. We're not wine snobs but do enjoy a nice bottle of wine. Enjoy your cruise!

 

Lynne

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Why is the price for G.H. Mumm Cordon Rouge listed here for $59, but If I pre-order a bottle for in my cabin for sailaway does it cost me $74.64? Yes, I know about the 15% added to the pre-ordered stuff, but it doesn't add up.

 

Can I stop at a bar and buy the bottle for $59 plus 15% when I board the ship? In all honesty, $59 is a perfectly acceptable price to me, reasonable in fact. Almost too reasonable. Is that for a 750ml bottle or for a split?

 

Actually, all of the prices shown here seem reasonable to me. Much more so than what I remember on previous cruises with HAL. The selection is still pretty wanting, but the prices seem mostly OK to me.

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Why is the price for G.H. Mumm Cordon Rouge listed here for $59, but If I pre-order a bottle for in my cabin for sailaway does it cost me $74.64? Yes, I know about the 15% added to the pre-ordered stuff, but it doesn't add up.

 

Can I stop at a bar and buy the bottle for $59 plus 15% when I board the ship? In all honesty, $59 is a perfectly acceptable price to me, reasonable in fact. Almost too reasonable. Is that for a 750ml bottle or for a split?

 

Actually, all of the prices shown here seem reasonable to me. Much more so than what I remember on previous cruises with HAL. The selection is still pretty wanting, but the prices seem mostly OK to me.

 

jaguarstyper,

 

So far as the $59 goes, that list is one I compiled last year while on Eurodam. Prices may have gone up since then. I did not order the Mumm, but I believe the prices are for 750ml bottles -- the wines I did order came in that size.

 

And yes, you can order a bottle in one of the ship's bars, with the usual 15% service charge added.

 

Dave

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Bev:

 

I find that the wines are pretty decent onboard. I've also carted on wines when we leave from Florida and pay the corkage fee. I splurge on some really nice wines. We are 3-star Mariners' date=' so get a discount on packages and that makes it more attractive. We're not wine snobs but do enjoy a nice bottle of wine. Enjoy your cruise!

 

Lynne[/quote']

 

Many thanks for that Lynne. If we were boarding here we would probably take on board a few of our favourites, but wine in Singapore is quite a bit more expensive and so we didn't really want to have to stock up there. As you say, perhaps a couple of bottles of special ones may board with us but apart from that we're more than happy with those prices. Thanks for the well wishes.

 

Cheers .. Bev :)

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Why is the price for G.H. Mumm Cordon Rouge listed here for $59, but If I pre-order a bottle for in my cabin for sailaway does it cost me $74.64? Yes, I know about the 15% added to the pre-ordered stuff, but it doesn't add up.

 

Can I stop at a bar and buy the bottle for $59 plus 15% when I board the ship? In all honesty, $59 is a perfectly acceptable price to me, reasonable in fact. Almost too reasonable. Is that for a 750ml bottle or for a split?

 

Actually, all of the prices shown here seem reasonable to me. Much more so than what I remember on previous cruises with HAL. The selection is still pretty wanting, but the prices seem mostly OK to me.

 

Tim,

Is it possible that in addition to the 15% there is a local tax added for the port city's coffers? We have seen that for drinks purchased before leaving some ports.

Ray in NH (tax-free NH)

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All of HAL's drink and wine prices are much too high. Hey, they are working in a tax-free environment, but they charge like downtown. Example...a particular wine we drink at home costs us $6.97 a bottle. HAL charges $49 for the very same wine. That ratio is pretty similar (with few exceptions) throughout. RIPOFF!

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All of HAL's drink and wine prices are much too high. Hey, they are working in a tax-free environment, but they charge like downtown. Example...a particular wine we drink at home costs us $6.97 a bottle. HAL charges $49 for the very same wine. That ratio is pretty similar (with few exceptions) throughout. RIPOFF!

I agree that HAL charges well over the restaurant standard 2-3X markup in many or most cases. But it's not a ripoff. HAL allows you to bring all the $6.97 bottles you wish on board. If you choose to drink one in the dining or lounge facilities, they'll add on $20 and you only end up paying $26.97. By not bringing your own wine, you're in essence ripping yourself off by paying HAL an additional $23 to bring the wine on for you.

 

The markup on a can of soda is probably 10X as I doubt HAL pays more than 20 cents a can. But they haul it aboard and refrigerate it. Such is the price of convenience.

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The only wine on the entire list that is something I know well and like is Louis Jadot Puligny-Montrachet, France, $89. In Pennsylvania, that bottle of wine cost me $59. So, on HAL, its a good price. I don't think there is a single bottle of any wine I can buy in PA for $6.97, surely not one that I would find fit for consumption. And, I am not much of an oenophile. The HAL prices seem to be much more in line than they used to be. I remember seeing 400-500% markups based on retail prices here in PA, which are not all that great. This list is much better. I hope its close to accurate.

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All of HAL's drink and wine prices are much too high. Hey, they are working in a tax-free environment, but they charge like downtown. Example...a particular wine we drink at home costs us $6.97 a bottle. HAL charges $49 for the very same wine. That ratio is pretty similar (with few exceptions) throughout. RIPOFF!

 

I agree, HAL does not pay tax on its liquor, but it passes the 'tax' on to consumers.

Consider. It is cheaper to buy a cheap bottle of whisky on board, [to take home], than it is to buy an average glass of wine with dinner.

 

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The only wine on the entire list that is something I know well and like is Louis Jadot Puligny-Montrachet, France, $89. In Pennsylvania, that bottle of wine cost me $59. So, on HAL, its a good price. I don't think there is a single bottle of any wine I can buy in PA for $6.97, surely not one that I would find fit for consumption. And, I am not much of an oenophile. The HAL prices seem to be much more in line than they used to be. I remember seeing 400-500% markups based on retail prices here in PA, which are not all that great. This list is much better. I hope its close to accurate.

Indeed the markup is greater on the lower priced wines.

 

For example, I can buy Chateau St. Michelle at my local wine shop for $7.99. The wine list has it for $39, almost a 5X markup. Ferrari Carano Chardonnay, however, costs me $22.99 and sells for $69 on the wine list, only a 3X markup such as one might expect in a restaurant.

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Indeed the markup is greater on the lower priced wines.

 

For example, I can buy Chateau St. Michelle at my local wine shop for $7.99. The wine list has it for $39, almost a 5X markup. Ferrari Carano Chardonnay, however, costs me $22.99 and sells for $69 on the wine list, only a 3X markup such as one might expect in a restaurant.

In PA, Chateau St Michelle Cabernet Sauvignon Canoe Ridge 2009 is available special order for $35.29 per bottle.

 

Ferrari Carano Chardonnay Carneros Reserve 2010 is $36.99.

 

Wine prices in PA are horrible.

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After seeing the price of their drinks list the other day, I find them to be much more reasonable than Carnival or RCCL and from what I have read, Celebrity.

 

Their liquor prices by the bottle sold on-line are not horrible either and I am spoiled by cheap Florida prices. I don't drink often to be a great source but I was happily surprised at my costs for a bottle of Bacardi and one of Beef eaters.

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The price of bottles of spirits onboard is pretty good so that's not an issue, but we really need some guidance on the wine. And we are aware that if we take our own bottle of wine to the MDR we will be charged that MASSIVE corkage fee, so need to take that into consideration also in our decision.

 

Ahoy!

 

You might want to look at the wine packages available on-board. There's no need to stick with a particular package menu if you prefer reds versus whites, etc.

 

Your wine steward should/will recognize your wishes following a short chat (e.g. package pricing, a bottle or per glass). He / she should accomodate you accordingly.

 

The corking fee shouldn't really be an issue. Regardless, you're on VACATION!

 

Have a GREAT CRUISE & Merry Xmas!

 

Bon Voyage & Good Health!

Bob:)

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After seeing the price of their drinks list the other day, I find them to be much more reasonable than Carnival or RCCL and from what I have read, Celebrity.

 

Their liquor prices by the bottle sold on-line are not horrible either and I am spoiled by cheap Florida prices. I don't drink often to be a great source but I was happily surprised at my costs for a bottle of Bacardi and one of Beef eaters.

 

$30 for a ltr of Malibu recently.

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Regarding the wine list posted above, (Thanks for that, BTW) does anyone have a breakdown on what is offered from the above list for the various wine packages?

 

The wine packages (and wine lists) change a bit now and then, and from ship to ship, but here is what was offered on Maasdam in Feb. 2012:

 

NAVIGATOR'S CHOICE

3 bottles - $89

5 bottles - $149

7 bottles - $199

 

White wines

Robert Mondavi Private Selection Riesling - California

Danzante Pinot Grigio - Italy

Caliterra Chardonnay - Chile

Toasted Head Chardonnay - California

Nobilo Sauvignon Blanc – New Zealand

 

Red wines

Ravenswood Zinfandel - California

Fescobaldi Remole - Tuscany

Three Blind Moose Cabernet Sauvignon - California

Alice White Shiraz - Australia

Errazuriz Merlot - Chile

Diseno Malbec - Argentina

Laboure'-Roi Pinot Noir - France

 

 

ADMIRAL'S CHOICE

3 bottles - $118

5 bottles - $199

7 bottles - $269

 

White wines

Clos du Bois Chardonnay - California

Hogue Gewurztraminer - Washington

Estancia Pinot Grigion - California

Simi Sauvignon Blanc - California

Franciscan Chardonnay - Napa, California

Laboure'-Roi Macon Villages - France

 

Red wines

Spellbound Cabernet Sauvignon - California

Blackstone Merlot - California

Mark West Pinot Noir - California

Fresdobaldi Castiglioni Chianti - Italy

Wild Horse Cabernet Sauvignon - California

Red Guitar Tempranillo Garanacha - Spain

 

 

The 15% service charge is added to the package prices. Three-star Mariners get a 25% discount and Four-star ones a 50% discount. But, you pay the 15% charge on the listed price.

 

Changed on edit: I redid the arithmetic. A 7-bottle Navigators package lists for $$199. The 15% service charge of $29.85 is added to get a total of $228.85. From that the Mariner discount is taken; for a 4-star, the discount is $99.50 (50% of the $199 list price). So, the final cost to the 4-star Mariner would be $129.35.

 

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We just got back from 42 days on the Maasdam- bought the Navigator package- $199 plus 15% minus 3 star discount of 25% for $179 for 7 bottles. Some of the bransd I remember- Nobilo Sauv blanc (deiicious), 3 blind moose (cab), a French Pinot Noir, an Italian red, 2 amer. chardonnays and others form an average price of $27/ bottle. The only wine we didn't try was an Italian Pinot Grigio- we don't like them!

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