Need help picking a cabin for a smoker in our group

[SRQbeachgirl]

See once again. You smokers, the smell, cancer, fires. It’s their life you have yours they have theirs. They want to go on vacation too and still be able to enjoy life too. My husband is the sole provider in this house. Husband to our three small children. We are paying thousands of dollars for our right to go on vacation just like you. So he should have every right to go into our balcony that we are paying a premium for. Outside in the air and smoke and enjoy the scenery. There should be smoking and non smoking cabins just like there are in hotels!

 

Your husband is entitled to use your balcony and cabin in exactly the same manner everyone else is entitled to use the balconies and cabins they paid for. The issue is when someone wants to use their balcony or cabin in a manner that is not only against the rules, but also infringes on the rights of others to enjoy their balconies or cabins.

 

I am highly allergic to cigarette smoke. Even being in a room for a prolonged time where smoking has frequently occurred will cause me to get bronchitis. Thats why I can't go to the casino, even though I would love to. Before smoking was prohibited in hotel rooms and in most areas on cruise ships, I would almost always come home with a sinus infection and bronchitis. Now that smoking is prohibited in hotel rooms and ship cabins/balconies, I enjoy my vacations without coming home sick.

 

If a smoker decides to break the rules and smoke on a balcony next to ours, it would force me to leave my balcony. That is not okay. We are both free to enjoy our balcony - we can read, nap, watch the waves, enjoy some drinks, appreciate the sunrises/sunsets, etc. No one pays for a balcony for the right to smoke on the balcony, because the cruise lines don't offer that as an option - just like you have the right to enjoy the Lido deck, but don't have the right to sunbathe nude. We pay for the right to enjoy our vacations within the parameters of the contract we agreed to - nothing less, nothing more.

[farler05]

What I don’t understand is why the mods allow for suggestions and/or posts that encourage breaking Carnival’s rules on CC? I belong to other cruising sites and these types of posts (smoking in unauthorized areas, smuggling alcohol, etc.) are deleted, the poster is warned and/or account is suspended and in some cases thread is locked or removed. Allowing these types of posts, without admonishing, encourages rule breaking imo.

Oh please, this isn't kindergarten. People can have discussions without mods stepping in to censor them. We're all responsible for our own choices.

[farler05]

See once again. You smokers, the smell, cancer, fires. It’s their life you have yours they have theirs. They want to go on vacation too and still be able to enjoy life too. My husband is the sole provider in this house. Husband to our three small children. We are paying thousands of dollars for our right to go on vacation just like you. So he should have every right to go into our balcony that we are paying a premium for. Outside in the air and smoke and enjoy the scenery. There should be smoking and non smoking cabins just like there are in hotels!

He should not have the right to smoke on the balcony because it doesn't just simply affect him, his wife & 3 kids. It affects those around him. If I am in the balcony next door, I should be able to enjoy my balcony without the smoke from his cancer sticks wafting over for me & my kids to breathe in. Because I care about what goes into our lungs & keep us away from secondhand smoke. You may choose to suck in that secondhand smoke from your sole provider but I don't.

 

And how is he a husband to your three small children? That sounds like something out of Deliverance.

[farler05]

Your husband is entitled to use your balcony and cabin in exactly the same manner everyone else is entitled to use the balconies and cabins they paid for. The issue is when someone wants to use their balcony or cabin in a manner that is not only against the rules, but also infringes on the rights of others to enjoy their balconies or cabins.

 

I am highly allergic to cigarette smoke. Even being in a room for a prolonged time where smoking has frequently occurred will cause me to get bronchitis. Thats why I can't go to the casino, even though I would love to. Before smoking was prohibited in hotel rooms and in most areas on cruise ships, I would almost always come home with a sinus infection and bronchitis. Now that smoking is prohibited in hotel rooms and ship cabins/balconies, I enjoy my vacations without coming home sick.

 

If a smoker decides to break the rules and smoke on a balcony next to ours, it would force me to leave my balcony. That is not okay. We are both free to enjoy our balcony - we can read, nap, watch the waves, enjoy some drinks, appreciate the sunrises/sunsets, etc. No one pays for a balcony for the right to smoke on the balcony, because the cruise lines don't offer that as an option - just like you have the right to enjoy the Lido deck, but don't have the right to sunbathe nude. We pay for the right to enjoy our vacations within the parameters of the contract we agreed to - nothing less, nothing more.

My last sinus infection was because I watched Monday Night football in the sports bar on a cruise. Ohio had been non-smoking for a few years & I hadn't had a sinus infection. Went on that cruise & boom! I don't go anywhere that allows smoking now.

[BookDragon]

Oh please, this isn't kindergarten. People can have discussions without mods stepping in to censor them. We're all responsible for our own choices.

 

Kindergarteners easily follow rules when guided. The posters in this thread and others...not so much.

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[LuckyZ]

smoke from his cancer sticks

 

And how is he a husband to your three small children? That sounds like something out of Deliverance.

 

 

 

Now that’s funny!! Like

 

 

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[Computer Nerd]

My last sinus infection was because I watched Monday Night football in the sports bar on a cruise. Ohio had been non-smoking for a few years & I hadn't had a sinus infection. Went on that cruise & boom! I don't go anywhere that allows smoking now.

 

Guess you won't be going cruising anymore then since not a single major cruise line has a completely smoke free ship.

[dotede04]

Self entitlement to non smokers on this thread. How dare smokers smoke in this free America we live in! And how dare anyone disrespect him because he smokes or I for being around him and his kids that adore him! And oh btw last I checked hotel balconies were exactly like cruise cabins right next to each other hotel on the seas???? Sheesh!!!! Btw we don’t plan on spending all damn day on the balcony. But he should be allowed his evening smoke without having to tiptoe around pansies! Smh!

 

 

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[farler05]

Guess you won't be going cruising anymore then since not a single major cruise line has a completely smoke free ship.

The majority of the ship is smoke free. I avoid the few places where smoking is allowed.

[SRQbeachgirl]

Let's break this down one statement at a time, shall we? (Red text mine)

 

Self entitlement to non smokers on this thread. How dare smokers smoke in this free America we live in! (This has nothing to do with living in a free country or any self-entitlement, unless you're talking about self-entitlement by people saying "Hey, I work hard and I paid for my cabin! I should be able to break the rules since I think the rules are stupid and I don't care how it might affect my neighbors!" It has everything to do with being on a ship owned by a corporation that can make any rules it wants and which you are not being forced to be on.)

 

And how dare anyone disrespect him because he smokes or I for being around him and his kids that adore him! (Expecting him to follow the same rules as the rest of us and that he agreed to when he purchased his cruise is not disrespecting him - but him breaking those rules absolutely is disrespectful to his fellow cruisers who are affected by it. And it's great that you and the kids love him...but it's completely irrelevant to this discussion.)

 

And oh btw last I checked hotel balconies were exactly like cruise cabins right next to each other hotel on the seas???? Sheesh!!!! (If those hotels allow you to smoke on their balconies, then that is a business decision that is completely up to them. But it has absolutely no bearing on what cruise lines allow on their ships.)

 

Btw we don’t plan on spending all damn day on the balcony. But he should be allowed his evening smoke without having to tiptoe around pansies! Smh! (Why should he be allowed to do this? Just because he's the sole household earner, works hard, and his family loves him? I'm the primary earner, work 60 hours a week, and my family loves me, too. So if you were relaxing out on your balcony and I was your cruise neighbor and decided to bang on the balcony divider wall for 20 minutes as a way to relieve stress, therefore robbing you of the ability to enjoy your balcony during that time, would that be okay too?)

 

I have no problem with people smoking is designated smoking areas, the casino, sports bar, etc. I can easily avoid those places. However, if the passenger before me smoked in the cabin all week, then I'm trapped in a room that WILL make me sick. If the passenger on the balcony next to mine is smoking, it WILL prevent me from being able to use my balcony during that time.

 

If I did something on my balcony that prevented my neighbor from enjoying their balcony, regardless of how little time it was each day, I would fully expect them to march down to Guest Services and complain.

[dotede04]

Lmao this is all hilarious. You have your opinions and I have mine. How about this we paid thousands for our two balcony cabins. I’ll happily accept the 250 fee for him smoking on the cabin before he comes to bed that night after he works 72 hours a week for 50 weeks out of the year in a hot warehouse on a forklift. Because I don’t see anything wrong with it. I for one don’t give two hoots how much noise you make. I’m 100 percent sure that my husband will not be the only rule breaker! And I’m sure it’ll go on for yeArs to come after we have come and gone from our balcony.

 

 

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[dotede04]

Oh and I hope one day I catch myself next to you. I’m sure your one of them people that will go and cry about my kids screaming and being kids!!!!

 

 

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[sft429]

Oh and I hope one day I catch myself next to you. I’m sure your one of them people that will go and cry about my kids screaming and being kids!!!!

 

 

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Well, either this all is a joke or you are,,,,

[dotede04]

Yep I sure am!!!! [emoji8]

 

 

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[BookDragon]

Lmao this is all hilarious. You have your opinions and I have mine. How about this we paid thousands for our two balcony cabins. I’ll happily accept the 250 fee for him smoking on the cabin before he comes to bed that night after he works 72 hours a week for 50 weeks out of the year in a hot warehouse on a forklift. Because I don’t see anything wrong with it. I for one don’t give two hoots how much noise you make. I’m 100 percent sure that my husband will not be the only rule breaker! And I’m sure it’ll go on for yeArs to come after we have come and gone from our balcony.

 

It’s nice that you appreciate your husband. However, you act like it’s all about him, as if, no one else is deserving of their own hard earned vacations. My husband is a disabled Air Force vet, who suffers from lung issues due to to being deployed in Iraq. Cigarette smoke exacerbates his issues. We have also purchased a balcony and I hope we are not next to someone who feels that smoking on their balcony is ok.

[dotede04]

My husband is not the only one out of 3000+ cruisers. I’m saying we have spent thousands and it’s taken us two years to pay this cruise off and it’s the one and only one I’m sure we will ever be able to take and if he needs to go outside before he comes to bed and smoke one then by god he will. And if security comes knocking at the door I’ll pay he 250. I’m sorry every non smoker in the world has issues with smokers. I have issues with drinkers. But you don’t hear me going and crying to anyone over them. I’m done with this thread. Have a good vacation to all!

 

 

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[SRQbeachgirl]

Oh and I hope one day I catch myself next to you. I’m sure your one of them people that will go and cry about my kids screaming and being kids!!!!

 

 

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I have no problem with kids being kids. Especially when they're better behaved than some adults... :rolleyes:

[saturn6901]

Hi. we are planing a group cruise on the Sunshine for Nov 2019 but we have a smoker in the group & he needs help picking a cabin.

I told him you can no longer smoke on the balcony anymore so what is the best cabin where he can run out & grab a quick smoke

If you get an ocean view cabin on deck 3 ( lobby) can you run out side & smoke? Where do you go???

 

I have been on the Sunshine twice and found that on the last time we had a room near the aft elevator. Would jump in and head up and have a smoke. Was also convenient because that same elevator heads up to the Havana Bar and Lido Marketplace. Worked out well for us. Hope this helps

[Lottacruises]

What someone should do is either carry a mini self contained ashtray or if they forget that, use one of the cups in the room with a little water in it. Then either throw it in the trash or flush down the toilet.

Flush cigarette butts down the toilet?? That's not very good advice.

[Computer Nerd]

Flush cigarette butts down the toilet?? That's not very good advice.

 

They are smaller than my turd so it's not a problem. ;)

[LuckyZ]

They are smaller than my turd so it's not a problem. ;)

 

 

 

The lack of intelligent responses on this thread is simply amazing.

 

 

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[Computer Nerd]

The lack of intelligent responses on this thread is simply amazing.

 

 

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Actually, it is an accurate, engineering response.

[grandmarnnurse]

He should not have the right to smoke on the balcony because it doesn't just simply affect him, his wife & 3 kids. It affects those around him. If I am in the balcony next door, I should be able to enjoy my balcony without the smoke from his cancer sticks wafting over for me & my kids to breathe in. Because I care about what goes into our lungs & keep us away from secondhand smoke. You may choose to suck in that secondhand smoke from your sole provider but I don't.

 

And how is he a husband to your three small children? That sounds like something out of Deliverance.

I’m just baffled how she thinks exposing her kids to this second hand smoke is good for them! We are a much more educated society now than we were years ago, on the dangers of second hand smoke. I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again—cruise ships should go totally smoke free. But I don’t see that happening in the near future. So, with that said, smokers need to abide by the rules. Smoking is not allowed in cabins or on balconies. There are designated areas for smoking. And this is not a non smokers “righteous attitude”. I’m a retired RN that has seen the devastation caused by smoking, and second hand smoke. I’ve administered the chemo to lung cancer patients, and cared for the trachs and wounds of throat and mouth cancer patients, along with caring for those with chronic health issues, such as COPD, all related to smoking. It’s no longer a matter about “rights”, but a public health concern. So, in closing, if you insist on smoking, or if someone in your party is a smoker, follow the rules, and don’t inflict your dirty habit on others.

[Blackjack22]

Lmao this is all hilarious. You have your opinions and I have mine. How about this we paid thousands for our two balcony cabins. I’ll happily accept the 250 fee for him smoking on the cabin before he comes to bed that night after he works 72 hours a week for 50 weeks out of the year in a hot warehouse on a forklift. Because I don’t see anything wrong with it. I for one don’t give two hoots how much noise you make. I’m 100 percent sure that my husband will not be the only rule breaker! And I’m sure it’ll go on for yeArs to come after we have come and gone from our balcony.

 

 

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Amen!

[JenSDCA]

I have witnessed many kids grow up witnessing the examples set by their parents. If the parents act with integrity and follow rules, their children tend to do the same. The parents who cut in the pickup line at school, who text while they drive, who generally don't follow rules that they don't wish to follow, those are the parents whose kids grow up breaking the rules as they see fit - and so often the parents wonder how their kids turned out that way. So if you feel it is best for your kids to pick and choose the rules they follow, then enjoy those balcony smokes. Trust me, kids absorb everything. But we all work hard to pay for our travels, and if your cig blows onto my balcony and triggers my or my son's asthma, you're damn sure going to get that knock on the door.