Star Princess 2025

Abercrombie2019 · Sunday at 08:23 PM

7 minutes ago, PacnGoNow said:

They need to maximize changes! So many issues on the Sun.😳

Sounds like the changes are happening, but on the Sun. Unlike when the Royal Princess came out and improvements were made on the Regal, Princess has realized that the Sun needs to be changed immediately.
I don’t think Princess had a fully formed idea of how they wanted Sun Princess to work when they designed her.

Edited Sunday at 08:26 PM by Abercrombie2019

Astro Flyer · Sunday at 11:04 PM

2 hours ago, Abercrombie2019 said:

Sounds like the changes are happening, but on the Sun. Unlike when the Royal Princess came out and improvements were made on the Regal, Princess has realized that the Sun needs to be changed immediately.
I don’t think Princess had a fully formed idea of how they wanted Sun Princess to work when they designed her.

They began with a blank piece of paper to create a new experience but they appear to have made some poor decisions which are quickly being changed. Things such as repurposing dining rooms, removing the upper deck Park 19 play area and a too small showroom with recent posts stating they now need 2 evening & 1 matinee performance.

I was eager to sail on Royal’s 2013 inaugural transatlantic sailing but that ship’s design was described as an evolutionary change from their other classes of ships but it was not a revolutionary change. The Sun-class is a revolutionary change in Princess ships…some changes are positive for me but more are negatives.

Hopefully Princess can iron out the issues on this new class of ship to be successful. However even then the design issues & more of a 3-class experience will likely never be desirable for me but hopefully I am wrong.

Change can be good although not always…Royal-class changes were good for me but unfortunately based on posts the Sun-class appears to not be better for me…it’s good to have choices. 🙂

reeves35 · Monday at 03:14 AM

Whilst a clean-sheet, Princess would have had a fairly clear idea in their head of what they wanted to develop. They would've been on the newest available similar sized ships at the time, probably things like the Quantum Class, and had a look at what looked like it was working and what were problems.

Some things have definitely gone wrong such as Park 19 but some of the other things such as the expansion of the Signature zone is more a reflection of how cruise ships have continued to evolve and Princess were a bit later to this party than some other lines.

Princess do have a habit of slightly botching their first of types. Grand Princess had design issues that eventually meant its shopping trolley handle had to be removed; these issues were partially resolved before Golden and Star Princess were launched and completely changed for later ships. Likewise, Royal Princess had numerous design SNAFUs that were gradually resolved as latter built siblings were launched. Even the original Sun class evolved over its life. What is interesting, as has been mentioned, is Princess is not waiting for later ships to evolve the design but changing Sun Princess itself after only 6 months. This is either a sign of clear management determination to get things right or dire passenger surveys meaning they have no choice.

FLAlaska · Monday at 02:37 PM

11 hours ago, reeves35 said:

. This is either a sign of clear management determination to get things right or dire passenger surveys meaning they have no choice.

Im thinking its the latter.

TRLD · Monday at 03:45 PM

12 hours ago, reeves35 said:

Whilst a clean-sheet, Princess would have had a fairly clear idea in their head of what they wanted to develop. They would've been on the newest available similar sized ships at the time, probably things like the Quantum Class, and had a look at what looked like it was working and what were problems.

Some things have definitely gone wrong such as Park 19 but some of the other things such as the expansion of the Signature zone is more a reflection of how cruise ships have continued to evolve and Princess were a bit later to this party than some other lines.

Princess do have a habit of slightly botching their first of types. Grand Princess had design issues that eventually meant its shopping trolley handle had to be removed; these issues were partially resolved before Golden and Star Princess were launched and completely changed for later ships. Likewise, Royal Princess had numerous design SNAFUs that were gradually resolved as latter built siblings were launched. Even the original Sun class evolved over its life. What is interesting, as has been mentioned, is Princess is not waiting for later ships to evolve the design but changing Sun Princess itself after only 6 months. This is either a sign of clear management determination to get things right or dire passenger surveys meaning they have no choice.

The problem with the Grand was the material that sky walkers was made out of It was too heavy impacting both handling and the longevity of the ship. Lighter materials were used in later ships.

As far as Park 19 the vendor failed to meet the terms of the contract and deliver a working sky roller. It was the first of that model, with the self powered carriers, installed on board ship. The contract was terminated and the vendors installation, including the ropes course removed.

Do not have clear information on changes from a suite and a reserve class, to only a combined sanctuary class. I suspect they ran into some unanticipated operational issues that drove the change.

dides · Thursday at 04:47 PM

Star Princess Reaches Major Construction Milestone at Shipyard

See https://www.cruisehive.com/star-princess-reaches-major-construction-milestone-at-shipyard/145730

A major milestone was celebrated in the building of Star Princess, Princess Cruises’ second Sphere-class ship, when the 178,000-gross ton vessel was floated out of her construction bay at Fincantieri’s shipyard in Monfalcone, Italy.

Star Princess

The September 26, 2024 float-out signifies the first time the ship’s hull touched water, and means that the construction process now shifts to the interior design of the vessel, which is slated to launch in September 2025

Shipyard and cruise line officials attended the float-out event, including John Padgett, president of Princess Cruises, and Cristiano Bazzara, shipyard director for Fincantieri.

The float-out also had a Fincantieri and Princess Cruises employee serve as godmothers of the ceremony: Chiara del Vecchio, 3rd Engineer serving aboard Sun Princess, and Francesca Maraventano, an executive assistant at the Monfalcone shipyard.

Also from: https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/shipbuilding-equipment/fincantieri-s-monfalcone-shipyard-floats-out-star-princess

Edited Thursday at 05:00 PM by dides

dides · Thursday at 05:06 PM

Haven't seen a float out video yet but there's a drive-by short video of the ship from 2 weeks ago.

ISABELLA · Thursday at 07:06 PM

On 9/22/2024 at 11:14 PM, reeves35 said:

Whilst a clean-sheet, Princess would have had a fairly clear idea in their head of what they wanted to develop. They would've been on the newest available similar sized ships at the time, probably things like the Quantum Class, and had a look at what looked like it was working and what were problems.

Some things have definitely gone wrong such as Park 19 but some of the other things such as the expansion of the Signature zone is more a reflection of how cruise ships have continued to evolve and Princess were a bit later to this party than some other lines.

Princess do have a habit of slightly botching their first of types. Grand Princess had design issues that eventually meant its shopping trolley handle had to be removed; these issues were partially resolved before Golden and Star Princess were launched and completely changed for later ships. Likewise, Royal Princess had numerous design SNAFUs that were gradually resolved as latter built siblings were launched. Even the original Sun class evolved over its life. What is interesting, as has been mentioned, is Princess is not waiting for later ships to evolve the design but changing Sun Princess itself after only 6 months. This is either a sign of clear management determination to get things right or dire passenger surveys meaning they have no choice.

Give me the original Grand Princess from the 90s. Still 30 years later, it is my favorite ship.

Pincess need to build some ships with Solariums.