Century has Norovirus!!!

[BikerAl]

I didn't address the Constellation, as i have not seen the report. I addressed the Century, which has not had a US port for many months.

 

From CDC.gov.

• Which cruise ships are in our jurisdiction?
  
• Cruise ships under our jurisdiction:
  • carry 13 or more passengers, and
    
  • have a foreign itinerary with U.S. ports.

[tcocktail]

Er - no. We probably should have. Here's a link to my blog entry for what was a disppointing day at Naples.

 

http://tomtotley.wordpress.com/2007/07/01/day-10-naples/

 

Thank you, wow what a day! Being hot too didn't help I am sure.

 

I am guessing that you decided not to join us on 30 may, 2008 on the Galaxy.

 

Do you have plans for another trip?

[Pandora1958]

Ok,,latest

 

Just came up from dinner. Now they are not serving Capriccio. Said they won't serve raw meat anymore on the cruise. No sushi either 'cause it might a virus. Wow! This is getting ridiculous! Some man ranted and raved and took his suitcases off the ship today threatening to sue! He would not be quarantined to his room for three out of seven days. Beware! Don't get sick or tell anyone.

 

Lynne

[bububr]

"Beware! Don't get sick or tell anyone."

 

WRONG. First you don't know if you are getting sick, but you can take precautions such as washing your hands frequently with hot soapy water. Second, if you do get sick, not only can you spread the virus to others, but you could be making your self worse by not getting proper treatment.

 

As for quarantine, it is policy. And if some idiot wants to rant and rave and leave the ship..its better for everyone else, except for those he will be infecting on the way home ( cabs, planes, busses, hotels, etc..) just making matters worse. And he can forget about lawsuits also.

 

I'm sorry to hear that your cruise is being affected, I have been on cruises with NORO also and its not the easiest. However please remember this is STILL your vacation and try to make the best of a not so perfect situation. and WASH your hands frequently.

 

Dave:eek:

[KevinNYC]

"Beware! Don't get sick or tell anyone."

 

WRONG. First you don't know if you are getting sick, but you can take precautions such as washing your hands frequently with hot soapy water. Second, if you do get sick, not only can you spread the virus to others, but you could be making your self worse by not getting proper treatment.

 

As for quarantine, it is policy. And if some idiot wants to rant and rave and leave the ship..its better for everyone else, except for those he will be infecting on the way home ( cabs, planes, busses, hotels, etc..) just making matters worse. And he can forget about lawsuits also.

 

I'm sorry to hear that your cruise is being affected, I have been on cruises with NORO also and its not the easiest. However please remember this is STILL your vacation and try to make the best of a not so perfect situation. and WASH your hands frequently.

 

Dave:eek:

 

Finally a voice of reason. Sue?! I've never heard anything so ridiculous!

 

(And what is Capriccio? :confused: Beef carpaccio?)

[fllady]

Thanks for telling us not to tell if we get sick. So instead of being kept in our cabin we should walk around the ship and spread this virus. That is the reason why so many get it. Be smart go to your room, and learn from the experience. And as Dave said, wash your hands, wash your hands, wash your hands!

[grosnombril]

Reading this thread just reminds me the cruise. It was packed with people complaining about everything. I guess cruises attract complainers.

 

The person starting this thread did not seem to understand that it was not informational and that it could just hurt the cruise line. I was on board and it was not Celebrity's fault, they have taken every single action they could to prevent an outbreak (some of their measures were even absurd).

 

I am just amazed that people are on vacations and STILL they can't be happy about anything. Geez, there are 2000 on board, commodities and staff need to be shared.

 

This was my 3rd cruise and it exceeded the other two by far.

[BikerAl]

I have to agree, there is a total lack of information. Obviously, nobody on board knows actual numbers, but a fair estimate of ill is relatively easy, by observing numbers in the DR, casino, poolside, etc. Also, what announcements have been made? These are the things that are informative, and helpful. Complaints are self serving, and really say nothing other than how that particular individual is feeling at a particular moment.

 

To those on board, I wish you stay well, and if possible, appraise us of what the facts are.

[grosnombril]

I have to agree, there is a total lack of information. Obviously, nobody on board knows actual numbers, but a fair estimate of ill is relatively easy, by observing numbers in the DR, casino, poolside, etc. Also, what announcements have been made? These are the things that are informative, and helpful. Complaints are self serving, and really say nothing other than how that particular individual is feeling at a particular moment.

 

To those on board, I wish you stay well, and if possible, appraise us of what the facts are.

 

Let me assure you of one thing, my wife is a neat freak and STILL she was annoyed by all the preventive steps they were taking. They really do their best to contain it.

[fllady]

Thanks grosnombril, we all who will be boarding Century Dec. 20, and beyong appreciate your reports. Where is the captain? He has been known to be always around and informative. don't tell me he is hidding out.

[grosnombril]

Thanks grosnombril, we all who will be boarding Century Dec. 20, and beyong appreciate your reports. Where is the captain? He has been known to be always around and informative. don't tell me he is hidding out.

 

I would say all the opposite. He woke me up at least twice with a general announcement about measures and what to do to avoid catching the virus.

 

I mostly feel sorry for the staff who have extra work because of this. Our waiter told us they had to FULLY sanetize the dinning room between the services.

[Lois R]

Hi Jeanne and Al...looks like we might be cruising on a sanitizied

ship;)

I am also sailing on Dec 20th and appreciate the information.

At least we will know what to expect upon boarding...although

maybe by sail day things will be better?:D

[FinelyCruising]

Having been on a ship with Noro, CDC or not, the experience is apprehensive at best, ours was CDC news FWIW...

 

Its never easy to be in such close confines with those who are subject to be affected by the virus, and not be concerned if you or someone your are cruising with might be affected by the virus.

 

It is very iteresting to me that ships seems to have such a prollific segment of affected individuals and I do beleve there is something to an idea that there may be a specific aspect of a cruise ship environment that seems to provide an environment that elicits a flourishment of the ailment.

 

People not washing their hands have always existed in the workplace..and I think there are more people who have 'ship ailments' than 'workplace ailments' that can be labled noro-like IMHO.

[travelingmom37]

Hello,

For those of you currently on the Century, I hope your cruise is pleasent despite the virus on board.

 

Is there anyone who can identify the actual cabin numbers of the quaranteened rooms? I realize that the virus is not limited to these areas but it would be helpful to know.

We are due to sail on Dec. 20, and any factual information would be most welcome. We are getting a bit anxious re. the fate of our cruise.

Thanks

[fllady]

Having been on a ship with Noro, CDC or not, the experience is apprehensive at best, ours was CDC news FWIW...

 

Its never easy to be in such close confines with those who are subject to be affected by the virus, and not be concerned if you or someone your are cruising with might be affected by the virus.

 

It is very iteresting to me that ships seems to have such a prollific segment of affected individuals and I do beleve there is something to an idea that there may be a specific aspect of a cruise ship environment that seems to provide an environment that elicits a flourishment of the ailment.

 

People not washing their hands have always existed in the workplace..and I think there are more people who have 'ship ailments' than 'workplace ailments' that can be labled noro-like IMHO.

 

The only reason you hear so much about cruise ships, because the news people like to stir the pot. A couple of months ago, one of our news people made a list of different places that had the noro come thru, in the list was churches, schools and a gym. There was others, I just can't remember them all, the point I am trying to bring out is that, it just isn't news worthy when only a hand full of people get it compared to 100 people on a cruise ship.

[FortyNinerLiz]

If the cruise lines think they are busy with Noro and sanitizing..wait until the adenovirus 14 rears its ugly head on a ship. The CDC is tracking it, but saying very little about prevention.

[C 2 C]

If the cruise lines think they are busy with Noro and sanitizing..wait until the adenovirus 14 rears its ugly head on a ship. The CDC is tracking it, but saying very little about prevention.

 

Stop scaring me. I was one of several hundred who picked up a bad 4week cold on Constellation last month.

 

49er Here's a link for your warning.

 

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-virus16nov16,0,2107580.story?coll=la-home-center

[isabelle315]

Bob's going to the doctor tomorrow and will tell him what we might be entering and to give us plenty of antibiotics.

 

Oh my gosh!! THIS is exactly what is causing the new "superbugs" to emerge; I hope that doctor refuses to prescribe antibiotics for no reason. Another 50 years and that very antibiotic won't be working any more at all. :eek:

[Lois R]

Hi, I was just reading the last post on the roll call from the Century

cruise now...it was very heartwarming and the poster seems to

be having a wonderful time:)

 

 

Quote by Aguash:

 

"Please note that I am not trying to make light of the situation, but some of the postings sound like we are on a floating virus trap and that Celebrity is deliberately withholding information from us. Statements like eighteen cabins are “marked” as infected makes it sound like they have a skull and crossbones posted on the door. The doors of the cabins of folks that have been diagnosed with the virus are discreetly marked with a small piece of white tape on the door frame. There are no guards posted at the doors.

 

The mood on the ship is happy and the staff is doing a great job. Working on a ship is a hard job and all the extra cleaning duty just adds to their jobs. Since the disinfectant is bleach based, you do need to be careful not to rub your clothes on any surface that has been cleaned (elevator walls/doors or on the stair hand rails). The Captain keeps reminding us to be careful of the disinfectant during his noon announcements. There are tubs of disinfectant wipes in all public areas, so if you are using the computer in the lab you can wipe the keyboard, mouse, desk, etc.

 

When you go into any food serving area you are greeted and handed a disinfectant wipe. Actually, I think this is great. On previous voyages, we always use the disinfectant lotions provided and wished that others did the same thing. It is called common sense and courtesy. As far as not being able to server your selves at the buffets, it has not been a burden. There are always plenty of people available to serve you. At the drink stations, you have a couple of people serving you what you want.

 

As far as no CNN, if you have done TAs in the past, the signal in this part of the Atlantic is always weak or non-existent. Yesterday and early today, there were periods where you could see a very week picture of CNN. As far as the storm in the Virgin Island, there was a note on the chart posted on TV indicating that there were rough seas in that area (which is south of our trajectory).

 

The Captain has been very straight forward during his noon announcements and has indicated that the virus is still with us. No Secrets! No Cover Ups!

We have travelled with many of these crew members in the past. They are bending over backwards to make things as pleasant as possible. They are following the directions of US public health which is onboard.

 

This should not be considered as a personal attack on anyone; I just wanted to clarify the story or at least provide a different perspective.

 

We and our old friends (and new friends) onboard are having a fantastic time. We are already planning our next Celebrity Cruise."

 

Albert

 

 

Thanks for the positive post:)

[FinelyCruising]

The only reason you hear so much about cruise ships, because the news people like to stir the pot. A couple of months ago, one of our news people made a list of different places that had the noro come thru, in the list was churches, schools and a gym. There was others, I just can't remember them all, the point I am trying to bring out is that, it just isn't news worthy when only a hand full of people get it compared to 100 people on a cruise ship.

 

Jeanne - I think there is something germain to ships and their environments and this virus, that it becomes so easily transmitted while on board.

 

In the workplace, there are elevator buttons, door handles, restrooms and all the thing that are on ships for the most part including building HVAC systems pushing the same fresh air into spaces.

 

I am pretty certain I do not see the same effect of transmission in workplaces as I do on cruise ships with Noro.

 

If I take away obvious factors on a ship I take away sea air, pools, whirlpools, spas, elderly passengers and kids.

 

There has to be a reason why it multiplies on ships from one to another and does not affect the workplace the way it does the passengers on a ship when there are telephones, fax machines, copy machines, elevators, door handles and restrooms that are so all in common with like employees or other office building suites and cafeterias withing the same structure.

 

Not tryng to scare anyone, but to me there does seem to be a differnce between the two environments that seems to make the comment that it happens all the time, everywhere, questionable. I just don't see it and for sure the CDC has never been to ay one of my buildings or it's tenant spaces for Noro.

[DanishBeauty]

One Of The Reasons That You Hear About Norovirus Is That The Cruise Industry Is The Only One That Has To Report It To The Cdc. How Many Other Places Do The Same People Spend 7-10 Days Together. Not On Planes ,hotels Or Anywhere Else.

[C 2 C]

I think there is something germain to ships and their environments and this virus, that it becomes so easily transmitted while on board.

 

I doubt that it is the ships. On that basis navy personnel would be in sick bay more than on duty. I would like some input from ex-naval types on how often NLV was/is an issue on ships at sea. :confused:

[FinelyCruising]

Why doesn't it happen in the concentrations then as you describe? Why doesn't it happen in the concentrations in office buildings where a single tenant occupies the entire building. There are plenty of large environments where the same people co-exist each and every day where this virus does not occur. Why?

[dkjretired]

Why doesn't it happen in the concentrations then as you describe? Why doesn't it happen in the concentrations in office buildings where a single tenant occupies the entire building. There are plenty of large environments where the same people co-exist each and every day where this virus does not occur. Why?

 

It does, 45 million people in the US get Norovirus every year, it just doesn't get the media attention. Always remember for the media the most important thing is, "if it bleeds it leads."

[FortyNinerLiz]

Stop scaring me. I was one of several hundred who picked up a bad 4week cold on Constellation last month.

 

49er Here's a link for your warning.

 

http://www.latimes.com/news/science/la-sci-virus16nov16,0,2107580.story?coll=la-home-center

I caught the same thing on the Connie on its last New England/Canada cruise. I was treated with two antibiotics in the ship's medical to no avail. They prescribed the Z-Pac and Cipro. I was also treated with Amoxicillin at home. No help. Ships probably are not testing for the adenovirus 14 which may require isolation. I am still under treatment. Just the hazard of social environments. This virus is supposedly spread by people coughing so how does a ship sanitize for that? It is not their fault, but it could become a big problem in the future.