Smoking policy on Princess Ships: In particular the Crown Princess

[Oceans&Rivers]

You can't REQUEST a no smoking room on Princess because they do not have them. Smoking is allowed in all staterooms and on all balconies on a Princess ship.

 

If that doesn't change in the near future, Princess is not going to get as much business as Celebrity and the other lines that are looking out for their passengers. Since Princess seems to cater to children on most of their ships, I don't understand why they allow so much smoking onboard.

[Oceans&Rivers]

What you request when you book is a non-smoking room for any pre/post cruise hotels. Princess does not have any non-smoking rooms.

 

Instead of a non-smoking room in a hotel which allows smoking in some public areas, why not request a non-smoking hotel? There are so many of them nowadays. We do that now, and are really very happy to do it.

[riteonglor]

If that doesn't change in the near future, Princess is not going to get as much business as Celebrity and the other lines that are looking out for their passengers. Since Princess seems to cater to children on most of their ships, I don't understand why they allow so much smoking onboard.

 

I wouldn't bet the rent that Princess is not going to get as much business as Celebrity. They are looking out for all passenger's, the smoker is a passenger, too. Least ways they sure look like a passenger. They don't allow so much smoking aboard, not in the halls, not in their restaurant's, not in the theaters, only one side of the outside decks, etc. If you pay for a balcony and want to smoke that should be your right. Regardless of what the fanatic's say.

[kssunflower]

We have been on numerous Princess cruises and have never smelled smoke in our rooms. I am very allergic to smoke and would not be able to stay in a room with a smoke smell. However, there were places on the ship that had a lot of smoke smell. Of course, the casino was terrible. I think Princess should follow Celebrity's no-smoking policy or at least not allow it in the rooms. It puts everyone at risk. Remember that Princes ship that had a fire a couple years ago? It probably was started by a careless smoker throwing a cigarette off the ship. I know we have seen people do it even though the ship specifically warns about it.

[Host CJSKIDS]

If that doesn't change in the near future, Princess is not going to get as much business as Celebrity and the other lines that are looking out for their passengers. Since Princess seems to cater to children on most of their ships, I don't understand why they allow so much smoking onboard.

 

They really don't allow so much smoking onboard in my opinion. They have cut down the smoking areas tremendously onboard over the last few years. Bars that used to allow it now don't and I notice less and less smoking areas from when I first started cruising on Princess in 2004.

[custompcsys]

I really feel for you there. Nasty smokers are an awful thing to have to deal with here in the 21st century. It's a rather barbaric habit if you think about it for a bit.

 

Thank you so much for your caring, tolerant attitude toward people with a substance addiction (nicotine). Its a shame all of us can't be as perfect as you.

[Oceans&Rivers]

I wouldn't bet the rent that Princess is not going to get as much business as Celebrity.

 

We don't rent, and our mortgage is paid off.

 

We travel. And we choose as smokefree as possible. :)

[cyberfilly]

Has any cruise line ever considered having staterooms in "smoking sections" or making one side of the ship smoking and the other side non-smoking in terms of port or starboard staterooms? That would be easy to enforce and if passengers knew which side was smoking they could book their preference. The smokers could smoke on their balconies and staterooms without bothering anyone, and the non-smokers would be ensured of smoke-free air on their balcony.

[nabby]

Has any cruise line ever considered having staterooms in "smoking sections" or making one side of the ship smoking and the other side non-smoking in terms of port or starboard staterooms? That would be easy to enforce and if passengers knew which side was smoking they could book their preference. The smokers could smoke on their balconies and staterooms without bothering anyone, and the non-smokers would be ensured of smoke-free air on their balcony.

 

Ugh. Are you kidding me? Please do a thread search, this topic has been beaten to death. Over and over and over.

[Oceans&Rivers]

Has any cruise line ever considered having staterooms in "smoking sections" or making one side of the ship smoking and the other side non-smoking in terms of port or starboard staterooms? That would be easy to enforce and if passengers knew which side was smoking they could book their preference. The smokers could smoke on their balconies and staterooms without bothering anyone, and the non-smokers would be ensured of smoke-free air on their balcony.

 

Yes, I think the Norwegian Sky was that way for awhile, but not recently.

That experiment was some years ago, before non-smokers got land-based rights and before so many people around the world stopped smoking.

 

The problem is that there is always going to be a whole lot more non-smokers who want non-smoking staterooms than there will be smokers who want smoking staterooms. 50-50 means that most non-smokers wouldn't get the staterooms they want.

 

Bill Marriott of Marriott Hotels has a blog online and he posted (in a pdf file) that Marriott hotels had only very few who wanted smoking rooms, so Marriott just went totally smoke-free. He did get negative responses from some smokers, but most people are very happy with the new policy.

 

Currently, less than 3.5 percent of Walt Disney World’s 24000 resort rooms are smoking.

[Oceans&Rivers]

Listen for yourself:

 

http://www.blogs.marriott.com/uploads/MarriottontheMove_191/482866-Not-Blowing-Any-Smoke.mp3

[MaryPoppinz]

Bill Marriott of Marriott Hotels has a blog online and he posted (in a pdf file) that Marriott hotels had only very few who wanted smoking rooms, so Marriott just went totally smoke-free. He did get negative responses from some smokers, but most people are very happy with the new policy.

 

We stay at Marriott wherever possible for this very reason. It's the reason my husband is now Platinum with Marriott. He stays about 150 nights a year in hotels, and *every night* of his stays in the U.S. have been at Marriott hotels for the last almost-two years.

[chasinraynbowz]

Hotels are one thing, cruise ships are another. At hotels, a person can go outside to have a cigarette. On a cruise ship, what are smokers supposed to do? Hang off the back of the ship?

 

This topic has been beaten to death, on a weekly basis. Non smokers want completely smoke free ships, while smokers want to be able to smoke. Honestly, I do not see ships going completely smoke free. They may not allow you to smoke in your rooms or on your balconies, but they will allow you to smoke on an outside deck away from all the activity. I see that as a decent compromise, although some radicals on both sides will disagree.

 

By the way, I do smoke. But I haven't smoked in my cabin while cruising. I go up on deck with the other smokers and smoke up there. I have no problem with that and in fact, have met some great people!!

[custompcsys]

We stay at Marriott wherever possible for this very reason. It's the reason my husband is now Platinum with Marriott. He stays about 150 nights a year in hotels, and *every night* of his stays in the U.S. have been at Marriott hotels for the last almost-two years.

 

I travel 40-45 weeks a year for work, and used to look exclusively for Marriott properties. When they went all non-smoking, I cut my Marriott Rewards platinum card in half and sent it back with a letter telling them to close my rewards account because I would never stay at another Marriott property again.

 

It was a business decision which they are certainly entitled to make, and I am entitled to take my business elsewhere. The poster who said this topic gets beaten to death week after week is right - and nothing is ever resolved. This is my last post on a thread that involves smoking, ever.

[fun and breezes 2]

Just returned from the Crown Princess. You can smoke in the cabins, however when you make your preferences REQUEST a NO SMoking room. We never smelled cig. smoke. However people can some cigars on the patios of the rooms and we did smell tht from 2 rooms down. HORRIBLE ! I don't think it should be allowed. Maybe what the lines should do is have a totally smoke free ship ! dojaka

 

We were on the Crown last April and did not smell a problem with smoke in our cabin, but did have a problem on our balcony with second hand smoke. On the first day one person was smoking a cigar, but thankfully, it was just the first day. The Patter informs passengers that cigar smoking is not allowed on the balconies, and is only allowed in the cigar bar. Perhaps the cigar smoker from day 1 read the message and went to the cigar bar from then on.

 

Unfortunately, the ship does allow cigarrette smoking on the balconies, and we had to deal with it the entire cruise. Allergies make a lot of people very sensitive to smoke from others. I am guessing that smokers believe if they are on the balcony, it is outside and the wind will carry it away and not bother others. Let me tell you, it does bother others. Many smokers say just tell us and we will be agreeable to move, but my experience has been the opposite when trying to ask for cooperation. On my last cruise it was an easy matter of switching to the other side of the pool, and the smoker refused. He even returned the next day to the same deck chair, knowing the port side was for smokers. I wish I had the answer....

[MaryPoppinz]

I cut my Marriott Rewards platinum card in half and sent it back with a letter telling them to close my rewards account because I would never stay at another Marriott property again.

 

I would fully expect there are others who do exactly as you have. But, I suspect there are *more* who made the opposite choice. I expect it's been a smart business decision for Marriott.

 

I don't know whether it would work on Princess. But, I'm already brand-loyal, so it wouldn't change me, and the fact that Princess doesn't having a smoking ban hasn't stopped me sailing Princess so far, either.

[MaryPoppinz]

Non smokers want completely smoke free ships

 

I don't -- I really just want smoke-free meals and a smoke-free balcony. I'm not actively looking for a smoke-free cruise. There are a lot more pro-non-smoker policies out there than Princess...and I'm still sailing Princess.

[crt37]

I would fully expect there are others who do exactly as you have. But, I suspect there are *more* who made the opposite choice. I expect it's been a smart business decision for Marriott.

 

I don't know whether it would work on Princess. But, I'm already brand-loyal, so it wouldn't change me, and the fact that Princess doesn't having a smoking ban hasn't stopped me sailing Princess so far, either.

 

A lot more! Over 80% of the adult population does not smoke.

 

As for Princess, as soon as I heard Royal Caribbean made their smoking policy more restrictive on smokers I cancelled 2 Princess cruises we were originally booked on and replaced both of them with almost identical Royal Caribbean cruises. Goodbye Princess...hello Royal Caribbean.

[riteonglor]

A lot more! Over 80% of the adult population does not smoke.

 

As for Princess, as soon as I heard Royal Caribbean made their smoking policy more restrictive on smokers I cancelled 2 Princess cruises we were originally booked on and replaced both of them with almost identical Royal Caribbean cruises. Goodbye Princess...hello Royal Caribbean.

 

What did RC do different from Princess other then you now have to have a balcony with your cabin to smoke on. Then the non smoker's start griping they could not even enjoy the balcony when in fact all their complaining forced the smoker's on the balcony.

I have friends who did just the reverse of what you did, canceled RC and hello Princess. Actually they said, almost identical cruises on Princess were cheaper by quite a bit so it was a win win situation for them.

[CruiserGreg]

Could the Board Moderator please post a stickey regarding the smoking policy on Princess so we can get some peace around here, then maybe we can cut the smoking posts down by 5 or 6 a week .....this poor horse has been beat to death.

 

[chasetf]

What did RC do different from Princess other then you now have to have a balcony with your cabin to smoke on. Then the non smoker's start griping they could not even enjoy the balcony when in fact all their complaining forced the smoker's on the balcony.

I have friends who did just the reverse of what you did, canceled RC and hello Princess. Actually they said, almost identical cruises on Princess were cheaper by quite a bit so it was a win win situation for them.

So potentially 18% of the cruise population (smokers) could run from RC / X to Princess ..........while 82% of the population (non-smokers) could run from Princess to RC / X. :D Wouldn't take long for Princess and the rest of them to figure out those numbers. ;)

[chasetf]

Thank you so much for your caring, tolerant attitude toward people with a substance addiction (nicotine). Its a shame all of us can't be as perfect as you.

And as such......:rolleyes: ..... you have now demonstrated your intolerance to our desire to not have to experience your filthy substance addiction. ;)

[nbsjcruiser]

Want to bet ?

 

Can't smoke in RCI cabins - been that way for almost a year

[Jospen]

Thank you so much for your caring, tolerant attitude toward people with a substance addiction (nicotine). Its a shame all of us can't be as perfect as you.

 

For those of you in the UK the NHS Smoking clinics can wean you off the cigs..... go for it. It worked for me after 30 years of 40 a day!

[mikeythemars]

I would fully expect there are others who do exactly as you have. But, I suspect there are *more* who made the opposite choice. I expect it's been a smart business decision for Marriott.

 

To say the least - my company runs lots of large conferences. You woukdn't believe the number of letters from attendees asking us to please, please, please ONLY use Marriott properties, solely because of their 100% non-smoking policy.

 

I have yet to hear of ANY letter asking us to avoid them.

 

And I'm willing to bet Celebrity sees growth now that they are banning baclony smoking.;)