Has anyone ever won money in a Carnival Casino?

[yogimax]

We rarely win in any casino --

 

Ah, an honest answer!

 

Over the long term, no one wins, except those lucky enough to hit big and then never gamble again. But how many will do that?

[Casino Player]

Can't decide whether to gamble on board or not.

 

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO momsbusy: In gambling as in life there are no guarentees. If you wish to gamble while on board then do so. Set yourself with a loss limit. Use money that won't change your life. If you win fine, if you lose fine. And most of all, have fun while you play in the casino.

[dan40]

Ah, an honest answer!

 

Over the long term, no one wins, except those lucky enough to hit big and then never gamble again. But how many will do that?

 

 

The OP's question was "Has anyone ever won money in a Carnival Casino?"

 

 

There are no consistent winners or there would be no casinos.:rolleyes::D

 

Even if one has the "skills" to win all the time, the casinos will BAR them from playing.

 

Casinos DON'T gamble, we do. Casinos just win.

[tulman]

Payer must furnish W-2G for $600 or more.

 

My question is: Why or how can the IRS tax winnings when the ship is in international waters nor is it registered in the U.S?

 

Question 2: How does one write off losses during gambling without getting something from ship?

[dan40]

My question is: Why or how can the IRS tax winnings when the ship is in international waters nor is it registered in the U.S?

 

Question 2: How does one write off losses during gambling without getting something from ship?

 

Question 1, The IRS can only tax winnings of US Citizens........................................................................................................................ANYWHERE in the world.

[Drew B]

Over the long term, no one wins, except those lucky enough to hit big and then never gamble again. But how many will do that?

 

Depends on how long the "long term" is. Over an infinite time frame, the casino will ultimately come out ahead. Nobody plays for an infinite time frame, though. A lucky person could definitely win much more often than they lose. Unfortunately, I'm not one of those lucky people... :(

[triplee]

Hi,

 

This past March, DW & I were on the Inspiration. The 2nd day out, I won $2,400 playing the $1.00 machines, betting the $5 maximum. The next night I won $250 at the quarter machine. My DW won $2,400 on the return from Cozumel (fun day at sea), playing the $1.00 machine, $5.00 maximum bet.

 

Yes, you can win, but the odds are in favor of the house!

 

Lee

[PlanoDebbie]

My daughter won $8.00 in the slots a few weeks ago.

[southbayer]

LOL, thats $8.00 more than I won

My daughter won $8.00 in the slots a few weeks ago.

[TahoeBob]

My conscience is quite clear, as long as I know that for a given tax year, I've lost more than I've won gambling, as is usually the case...

Your conscience might be quite clear in knowing that you lost more than you won, but that does not change the fact that you are breaking a law by not reporting your winnings. There are many laws that people deal with everyday that seem stupid at times, but they are still on the books. Please don't think I am judging you at all on this, because I am not. All I am doing is pointing out what the IRS can do, and what land based casinos can do.

 

example: if a player plays slots all night and wins over a fixed (I can not remember the amount) amount the casino is required to report the winnings to the IRS, the next day same player loosed the same amount plus $1.00 the casino does not have to report any losses; all that shows up is the winnings.

 

All one has to do at any casino is just ask for a loss statement (or what ever they are called now) to file when taxes are done.

One of my many jobs at the casino was to get the loss statements to the people who requested them. The amount of information I can not talk about even after 8 years away from the casinos is mind boggling.

[TahoeBob]

Even if one has the "skills" to win all the time, the casinos will BAR them from playing.

 

This is so true, a good card counter for example will win more than they lose, when they get busted all the casino can do is ask them to leave and never return. If the player in question returns they will get arrested for trespassing.

[Debbbiee]

TahoeBob, can you confirm this? I'm dying to know if it's true. Thanks :D

 

Well, I'm no expert, but from what I've been told, unless you'd spun the reels at the exact same split second that they did every time up until the winning spin (and of course there is ZERO percent chance of that happening), you wouldn't have won what/when they did. The machines aren't set that a certain spin (say, the twenty-third spin from now) will be a jackpot. It's a computerized random sequence generator and any variation down to a fraction of a second will change the outcome.

[Drew B]

Your conscience might be quite clear in knowing that you lost more than you won, but that does not change the fact that you are breaking a law by not reporting your winnings. There are many laws that people deal with everyday that seem stupid at times, but they are still on the books. Please don't think I am judging you at all on this, because I am not. All I am doing is pointing out what the IRS can do, and what land based casinos can do.

 

 

I wonder if I were ever to be audited, if the fact that I actually keep ledgers detailing how much I win/lose in a given year would help. F.Y.I., on the [few] years that I've come out ahead, I HAVE declared the winnings as income on my tax return...

[sam1148]

My question is: Why or how can the IRS tax winnings when the ship is in international waters nor is it registered in the U.S?

 

Question 2: How does one write off losses during gambling without getting something from ship?

 

I'm wondering about this also.

 

If you 'win' more than (whatever amount is supposed to be reported).

 

Does Carnival give a you a form to fill out? Do they (Carnival) report the winnings?

 

What if that money never makes it to US shores? (You spend it on 'duty free' items in ports, give it to your partner..or open up an off shore bank account for use on the next cruise?)

[CgyTravelJunkies]

We were up over $2000 at the end of our last Carnival Cruise (playing Craps)... paid our S&S account off, then had spending money for our second week of vacation at Disney World. It was PERFECT!!! (Since we didnt win it all at once... but rather was up a few hundred every night... we didnt have a tax form to fill out... not sure if that was cause we were Canadian, or because it was in bits and pieces)

 

Hubby is a big Craps player, so we plan on playing again on our upcoming cruise. He normally does ok... gives himself a max of $100 a night... if he loses it in 10 minutes, he's done... but if it lasts he keeps playing until he's tired (Long after I head back to the cabin)... the casino is his "Excursion"

[The Wolverine]

Last cruise was paid off from casino winnings. I got "Lucky" in black jack and hit it big on a drive by slot play. I don't play slots but I had a dollar dropped in a quarter slot and played max, hit the jackpot. :eek:

 

I have a change jar that I keep around the counter everytime I have left over change I put them there. that's my casino fund.

[Casino Player]

This is so true, a good card counter for example will win more than they lose, when they get busted all the casino can do is ask them to leave and never return. If the player in question returns they will get arrested for trespassing.

 

I have only heard of this happening in Nevada where the state laws are a little different than in most other states. In Atlantic City the only time I ever heard of someone being barred from a casino is if they posed a threat to other people.

[klfrodo]

This is so true, a good card counter for example will win more than they lose, when they get busted all the casino can do is ask them to leave and never return. If the player in question returns they will get arrested for trespassing.

 

Unfortunatly Carnival has gone away from the 4, 6, or 8 deck shoe. Recently on the Valor every blackjack table had the Continuous Shuffeling machines. (Except for the Fun 21 table)

I can't count by any means, but I can sometimes do OK by watching trends and adjust the bet accordingly when dealing from a shoe. Impossible with continuous shuffeling.

[gapopes5]

Do they have penny,nickel,dime,quarter and dollar slot machines? Is it true to just walk around and watch people before playing the slot machines? My husband's aunt won $$3500 on a Carnival cruise a few years ago. She said she watches people first and then sits down to play. Let me know if you have any advice for slot machines and not going broke.:)

[tammy7]

Your conscience might be quite clear in knowing that you lost more than you won, but that does not change the fact that you are breaking a law by not reporting your winnings. There are many laws that people deal with everyday that seem stupid at times, but they are still on the books. Please don't think I am judging you at all on this, because I am not. All I am doing is pointing out what the IRS can do, and what land based casinos can do.

 

example: if a player plays slots all night and wins over a fixed (I can not remember the amount) amount the casino is required to report the winnings to the IRS, the next day same player loosed the same amount plus $1.00 the casino does not have to report any losses; all that shows up is the winnings.

 

All one has to do at any casino is just ask for a loss statement (or what ever they are called now) to file when taxes are done.

One of my many jobs at the casino was to get the loss statements to the people who requested them. The amount of information I can not talk about even after 8 years away from the casinos is mind boggling.

 

 

I would think the casino sends something to the irs, so you probably can't get away with not claiming it. Though I would have no problem with people that don't. Many people familar with the irs believe they are legalized criminals and why a flat tax, or completely overhauling them is so talked about.

 

I only take a few hundred to gamble in the casino over a 7 day cruise, I think the most I won was $250. on the slots. Mostly I play the penny machines.

[tammy7]

This is obviously for US citizens only, here is Canada winnings from casinos, scratch tickets, lottery winnings, are not taxable. When you win 32 million here, you receive the 32 million , tax free.

 

Also, i do believe the amount taxable is anything over $1000. Thats simply because I saw a lady have a form completed for tax purposes and she won 1080 or something like that, and the discussion was aww if only for that 80$.

 

When I won on the valor, no tax form required as im canadian, i won $1200.

 

 

So If I'm an American playing in Canada wouldn't it be the same. We've played in Windsor but never won, but they seemed to pay people without question, NOT like our casino's at home. And how the heck would they know your an American anyways, not like they ask for your passport.

[burnsie]

Last October on the Inspiration, the man next to my SIL won 17000 on a penny slot machine. I think he gave alot of it back because that was at the begining of the trip and every time I went in the casino after that, he was in there. He was feeling no pain everytime, never without a drink in hand.... I believe he had already booked another cruise before we docked back in Tampa. I on the otherhand, only make deposits... oh well, I have fun. ;)

 

I was with jimvern on the cruise and was playing roulette with this kid (showing my age he was early 20's) and was cleaning up on the table had almost his whole color plus a pocket full of 25,50 chips that he had changed in so the dealer would still have his color. I was loosing until I started to mirror some of his bets. Anyway the other guy with us on the table starts telling me how this table kicked his butt the night before and he lost his money and went whinning to his grandmother who basically gave him a $100 bill and told him to sit and the penny slot machine and shut up. Low and behold he won the $17,000. Paid him out in hundred dollar bills. They kept it in the safe at the pursers desk for him. The kid was really funny but my sister is right he was crocked the rest of the ship. I did walk away that trip about 260 up so no complaints here.

 

About 9 years ago I won $1000 on RCCL when the bells were going off I told my DH I thought I had broke the machine! Going to try again in Sept!!!

[WinnipegCruiser]

Well, I'm no expert, but from what I've been told, unless you'd spun the reels at the exact same split second that they did every time up until the winning spin (and of course there is ZERO percent chance of that happening), you wouldn't have won what/when they did. The machines aren't set that a certain spin (say, the twenty-third spin from now) will be a jackpot. It's a computerized random sequence generator and any variation down to a fraction of a second will change the outcome.

 

Different games have different methods, but what you say is basically true. Certainly the older machines with the mechanical spinning reels are truly random. However the new computer screen types have a bit of "Game" in them. For example, often the big payouts are in the "Bonus Game", and the Bonus Game pays out more depending on how much has been spent (inputs)... The more you play Max Bet, the higher the Bonus will be... If so, then the computer IS not truly random.

 

Again this is not true with all games, but you can see it in some of the games.

 

You have to set yourself a limit and stick to it. If you don't think you can do that, then stay away.

[dan40]

Your conscience might be quite clear in knowing that you lost more than you won, but that does not change the fact that you are breaking a law by not reporting your winnings. There are many laws that people deal with everyday that seem stupid at times, but they are still on the books. Please don't think I am judging you at all on this, because I am not. All I am doing is pointing out what the IRS can do, and what land based casinos can do.

 

example: if a player plays slots all night and wins over a fixed (I can not remember the amount) amount the casino is required to report the winnings to the IRS, the next day same player loosed the same amount plus $1.00 the casino does not have to report any losses; all that shows up is the winnings.

 

All one has to do at any casino is just ask for a loss statement (or what ever they are called now) to file when taxes are done.

One of my many jobs at the casino was to get the loss statements to the people who requested them. The amount of information I can not talk about even after 8 years away from the casinos is mind boggling.

 

Your statement above is not quite accurate. If you played slots all night and won $30,000. total for the evening, the casino has no obligation to report that. All you are doing is cashing out $30,000. You might have put $40,000 in and decided to quit when your credits were down to $30,000.

 

However if you hit a single spin of the machine for $1200. or more, they are required to have you sign the IRS form and they do report that.

 

If you had $2000. in credits built up on a machine and hit a jackpot for $1500. The attendant must reset the machine and give you the payout. You would be paid for the $3500. but the tax form would be for the $1500. won on the single spin. Only you have the duty to report the other $2000.

[tammy7]

Your statement above is not quite accurate. If you played slots all night and won $30,000. total for the evening, the casino has no obligation to report that. All you are doing is cashing out $30,000. You might have put $40,000 in and decided to quit when your credits were down to $30,000.

 

However if you hit a single spin of the machine for $1200. or more, they are required to have you sign the IRS form and they do report that.

 

If you had $2000. in credits built up on a machine and hit a jackpot for $1500. The attendant must reset the machine and give you the payout. You would be paid for the $3500. but the tax form would be for the $1500. won on the single spin. Only you have the duty to report the other $2000.

 

 

Right its mainly if you win a jackpot all at one time, that you would have to fill out paperwork.

 

My friend a few months back won $3000. in one night but on various machines and amounts, all tax free.