glojo Posted January 11, 2013 #1 Share Posted January 11, 2013 My daughter is giving me stick for insisting on tieing my bow tie, she states that no one ties their own tie and we all now buy these ready made things. Am I in the minority? I just feel these pre-made things look so false and just do not look right but that is me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitemarsh Posted January 11, 2013 #2 Share Posted January 11, 2013 My daughter is giving me stick for insisting on tieing my bow tie, she states that no one ties their own tie and we all now buy these ready made things. Am I in the minority? I just feel these pre-made things look so false and just do not look right but that is me. I know I should tie my own, but I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldBear Posted January 11, 2013 #3 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I only had the 'pre tied' bow tie on my last cruise - and was surprised that only pre tied was available on board the QM2. I would have expected that such a simple, universal accessory would be a natural fit for the onboard shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rileyspike Posted January 11, 2013 #4 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I tie my own, I don't like the look of pre tied bow ties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamloops50 Posted January 11, 2013 #5 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Never have owned a bow tie ( except as a kid) . Always tied my own ties, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted January 11, 2013 #6 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Stuffing mushrooms and tying bow ties! Life's way way way too short for either activity. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScientist_01 Posted January 11, 2013 #7 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I always have a real bow tie. And Mrs MS takes great delight in telling people that she has tied it because my attempts always look atrocious. Sent from my KFOT using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underwatr Posted January 11, 2013 #8 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I have one of each (black self-tie, a dark pre-tied that has some subtle pattern, with a matching cummerbund). I pull out the pre-tied tie for variety or if my self-tie is giving me fits. I think it makes a difference - during the cocktail parties DW and I play "spot the real tie" because the knots on the pre-tied ones always look too good. (I think there's a potential market for pre-tied ties that look self-tied.) If you have a pre-tied one, be aware that there are good and not-so-good designs. The good ones fasten behind the neck and there's a small bit of fabric that covers the clasp so it doesn't show if you're wearing a wing collar. The not-so-good design (common on wedding rental tuxes in my observation) fastens near the bow and has a consipuous clasp no matter what collar you wear. I noticed one or two of these on my last QM2 voyage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glojo Posted January 11, 2013 Author #9 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Never have owned a bow tie ( except as a kid) . Always tied my own ties, Hi Kamloops, Are you saying you do not wear a bow tie with formal eveningwear? Apologies for being so thick and I am not suggesting what is right or wrong, just querying the type of tie. Thanks everyone for contributing John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolfecms Posted January 11, 2013 #10 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Pre-tied bow ties always look a little too perfectly tied for me. A bow tie that appears not quite symmetric shows a man who has the time, inclination and knowledge to dress for the occasion. There is an authenticity factor too and personally I feel more authentic when I'm in one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Brit Posted January 11, 2013 #11 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Stuffing mushrooms and tying bow ties! Life's way way way too short for either activity.J What have mushrooms got to do with anything? Stuff tying bow ties. Sir Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaxted Posted January 11, 2013 #12 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I figure that after struggling with braces, studs, and cufflinks, I owe it to myself to tie my own tie. I may look a bit askew, but at least I won't look prefabricated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thames_side Posted January 11, 2013 #13 Share Posted January 11, 2013 A wing collar with black tie? I don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamloops50 Posted January 11, 2013 #14 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Hi Kamloops,Are you saying you do not wear a bow tie with formal eveningwear? Apologies for being so thick and I am not suggesting what is right or wrong, just querying the type of tie. Thanks everyone for contributing John Never have worn a Tux just a nice black suit with tie. Are renting a Tux for our next cruise. Cheaper than carrying an extra bag for formal wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underwatr Posted January 11, 2013 #15 Share Posted January 11, 2013 A wing collar with black tie? I don't think so. During the Edwardian era, the practice of wearing a black waistcoat and black bow tie with a tuxedo became the convention, establishing the basis of the current black tie and white tie dress codes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_tie It will probably upset you further to learn that my dinner jacket has a notch lapel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnhmrk Posted January 11, 2013 #16 Share Posted January 11, 2013 What have mushrooms got to do with anything? Stuff tying bow ties. Sir Martin I'm getting worried - I'm agreeing with the ex-cat again! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concordepa Posted January 11, 2013 #17 Share Posted January 11, 2013 There is nothing quite so satisfying than sitting at the bar at the end of the evening and untying your bow tie, letting it hang around your collar. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underwatr Posted January 11, 2013 #18 Share Posted January 11, 2013 There is nothing quite so satisfying than sitting at the bar at the end of the evening and untying your bow tie, letting it hang around your collar. :DTo paraphrase, "I like wearing a bowtie. It feels so good when I remove it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanky Lad Posted January 11, 2013 #19 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I always tie my own bow tie. It's getting hard these days to find ties that are not pre-tied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NomDePlume Posted January 11, 2013 #20 Share Posted January 11, 2013 There is nothing quite so satisfying than sitting at the bar at the end of the evening and untying your bow tie, letting it hang around your collar. :D Only if your name is George Clooney... :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wordzz Posted January 11, 2013 #21 Share Posted January 11, 2013 When we went on our first cruise in 2010, I decided to have my first ever go at tying my own bow tie. I had no idea how to do it, so YouTube became my friend. I was astounded to discover that it's actually easier than tying a normal tie. Don't tell anyone, though - keep up the mystique... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruachan Posted January 11, 2013 #22 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Only if your name is George Clooney... :cool: Good grief. NdeP, PNHMRK, The Dead Cat, and Little Ole Moi - this place is beginning to feel decidedly retro :D:D:D J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Brit Posted January 11, 2013 #23 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Only if your name is George Clooney... :cool: Or Sir Martin:cool:. Anon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolk Brit Posted January 11, 2013 #24 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Good grief. NdeP, PNHMRK, The Dead Cat, and Little Ole Moi - this place is beginning to feel decidedly retro :D:D:DJ Indeed. God help us! Sir Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnpugwash Posted January 11, 2013 #25 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Well the audience matches the maturity of the subject perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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