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#61
Boston, MA
447 Posts
Joined Mar 2009
Dancing & formal wear: Two topics that bring out the elitist charges.
We sail on Cunard because of the Queens Room and the Formal Nights. I think of Fred & Ginger, old black & white movies, 1930s Hollywood, Art Deco, cocktails, romantic walks on deck at night, drinking hot beef bouillon while wrapped in blanket on a deck chair (OK maybe not that one,) and dressing to the nines. I think they should enforce the dress code on formal nights and deny entry to the main dining room, theatre and Queens Room to passengers who don't want to play by the rules. I think everyone who wants to should get out on the floor dance as long as they play by the rules. Am I an elitist? Yes!

In my defense I propose that one does not need to go to a lot of effort to get into Cunard fantasy mode. Don't want to buy/rent a tux. A black suit and white shirt will work. You can order a black suit and white shirt on-line for under $100. No one except the person standing right next to you will know the difference. And after the crossing, hang onto it in case someone you know gets married or dies, hopefully not at the same time. If you are unfamiliar with dance etiquette, ask a dance host. They easy to spot and eager to help.

I love dancing. I wish everyone danced. I want you to be safe on the dance floor as that will increase your chances of loving dance. And I want to be safe on the dance floor as an injury would really ruin my day. No one that I know ever said that driving rules were elitist. They're for safety. Dance rules are the same.
#62
Kansas City
522 Posts
Joined Nov 2012
Originally posted by Q-step
Dancing & formal wear: Two topics that bring out the elitist charges.
We sail on Cunard because of the Queens Room and the Formal Nights. I think of Fred & Ginger, old black & white movies, 1930s Hollywood, Art Deco, cocktails, romantic walks on deck at night, drinking hot beef bouillon while wrapped in blanket on a deck chair (OK maybe not that one,) and dressing to the nines. I think they should enforce the dress code on formal nights and deny entry to the main dining room, theatre and Queens Room to passengers who don't want to play by the rules. I think everyone who wants to should get out on the floor dance as long as they play by the rules. Am I an elitist? Yes!

In my defense I propose that one does not need to go to a lot of effort to get into Cunard fantasy mode. Don't want to buy/rent a tux. A black suit and white shirt will work. You can order a black suit and white shirt on-line for under $100. No one except the person standing right next to you will know the difference. And after the crossing, hang onto it in case someone you know gets married or dies, hopefully not at the same time. If you are unfamiliar with dance etiquette, ask a dance host. They easy to spot and eager to help.

I love dancing. I wish everyone danced. I want you to be safe on the dance floor as that will increase your chances of loving dance. And I want to be safe on the dance floor as an injury would really ruin my day. No one that I know ever said that driving rules were elitist. They're for safety. Dance rules are the same.
Amen!
#63
Pennsylvania
6,522 Posts
Joined Jul 2010
Seems that you might agree with the OP that more locations for non-ballroom, "romantic" (in the OP's words), casual dancing might be advantageous to ballroom and non-ballroom dancers alike.

I've done two cruises on HAL recently. Despite the lack of a ballroom there were dance floors in many venues and what I'd call casual dancers were taking to the dance floors and dancing happily and totally without instruction (it showed, but they were happy ).
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#64
Kansas City
522 Posts
Joined Nov 2012
I wouldn't recommend holding your breath until those non-ballroom, romantic, casual dancing, wood dance floors are installed in the QM2 or any of the other Cunard ships lounges.

Unlike Cunard, HAL seems like a perfect fit for you.
#65
166 Posts
Joined Jun 2016
Dear Boston Susie,
Your idea of small dance areas in some of the evening venues with music is brilliant. My wife and I took our first ever cruise last May and choose an E-W TA on the QM2. Most evening (maybe all) we ended up in the Chart Room for a final/final. We are so far from being accomplished dancers that it is laughable but we do enjoy a little belly-rubbing music to get us out on the dance floor. So we usually just danced right in from of the musicians where there is a little bit of an open space. Two or three other couples would generally join us and this was typically after 11:00PM (23:00). A little more defined dance area would have been appreciated. With that said I was disappointed with what seemed like anger in the way which you presented your suggestion. First slamming the food, then the passengers who enjoy ballroom dancing and finally the traditions of Cunard and the QM2 enjoyed by so many for so many years. You would probably dismiss my wife and I as just a couple of unsophisticated burger eating morons but we thought the food amazing, enjoyed watching and even joining in the ballroom dancing and fully embraced the "tribulations". So I wonder, was your intention to suggest an improvement in a positive way or was it really just a self gratifying rant?
#66
New Hamsphire
560 Posts
Joined Feb 2015
Originally posted by BostonSusie
Yes- of course, we danced in the "disco" after dinner-It's for a younger crowd and It only opens after 10 pm! And no- I do not expect dancers to change their styles in the Queens Ballroom. I'm only suggesting that a bit of dancing in a quiet corner of the lounges or the Carinthia Room would not go amiss for us less practiced dancers ! What is so hard to understand! Don't you dance a little without wanting to glide around a big crowded ballroom! So, maybe you wouldn't understand anyway!
Odd you found the disco for young people as on the December 2016 Back to Back TA a number of us 70 - 86 year olds closed the disco on numerous evenings. As to a slow dance on the Queens Room floor, just do it.Stake out a small space and remain in it. No one cares and if you want dark and quiet go up to the back tiers of the room and have a dance with your partner It is dark and quite nice.
#67
New Hamsphire
560 Posts
Joined Feb 2015
Originally posted by BostonSusie
OK- since you ask! My daughter is studying for an advanced degree at Uni. Duesseldorf and my husbnd has a mother in Germany- For health reasons I cannot fly long distances-Soooo,if I want to visit Europe I sail or swim! From anyplace between Toronto and Miami the only option is Cunard out of Brooklyn NY. Because necessity forces me to sail QM 2, that does not mean my opinions and evaluations and observations are not valid and worth considering! Anyway- Holland America beat out Cunard in cruise ship ratings this year and I can well understand why! As H. A. sails to Europe from Florida I am unable to sail with them. Too bad for me!
As you do not fly yet still find Cunard to be miserable I would suggest one of the numerous and inexpensive re positioning cruises on one of several lines. Yes they are most all out of Florida however, Amtrak has two very pleasant trains daily from Boston and New York to Florida.