Royal Suite detective work needed

This is an old photo and in comparing it to the recent ones, I’m 98% sure it’s

showing Royal Suites 12103 and 12105 side by side as they are on the deck plans - under the overhang, lined up with the Villas that are 2 floors above.

The layout and description of the suites shows a regular balcony (not infinite) off bedroom and a loggia (floor-to-ceiling glass) in living room. But in this photo there are clearly infinite balconies.

When it’s a new build of a new class of ship, can their renderings and descriptions be THAT off? Was it that way with Solstice?

Whoops, order of photos is sort of backwards but you get the idea...

Well, they did change the layout of the CS, so nothing is engraved in stone. It sure does look like you are correct regarding the infinite balconies in the photo. It could also be an error too, but maybe not. There is so much that we do not know about this new ship...

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The other odd part is that every single Infinite Veranda balcony is 42 square feet. Those retracting windows MUST be a standard size. And the RS balcony is supposed to be 72 sq ft. So maybe the infinite window is part of the loggia in the living room? The air would be nice I guess, but how weird. Or else the RS balcony is even smaller than its already reduced (from other ships) size.

It does look like your cabin does have the infinite balcony style, instead of the standard balcony design. You can see that the windows on the deck below you are the same width as yours, so I'm thinking your deck is deeper to accommodate the lounge chairs shown in the picture and allow for the larger square footage on your balcony.

That is a very nice looking suite IMHO.

It is possible that the windows in place are actually fixed and not the type on the infinite balcony. The reason I say this is that if you look at images of deck 6... which has a few cabins under one of the jut out areas... that is a panoramic balcony... those windows look the same... but in theory they do not open. If I am correct, then the area without any window would be for the regular balcony. I am not 100% sure I am correct... because looking at the drawing.. there should be a second fixed window... that is smaller... and I don't see that. It would not make sense to have both the retracting infinite balcony window and sliding glass doors. I agree that there is something in that image that does not compute.

Hopefully this link will work. But if you look at deck plan for deck 6.... just under that small jut out... there are two cabins... panoramic ocean view...in theory with fixed windows... but they look just like the infinite veranda cabin windows.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180711/aea6243f47973c224dc77d8d9c36c830.jpg

Also looking at the image attached... many (but not all of the open areas line up with what is supposed to be regular balcony cabins). I say not all because I do see an infinite balcony cabin that does not have its window in this photo. There still is a size issue that I can not resolve... if you look at the rendering there is a size difference between the two fixed windows...

This is an old photo and in comparing it to the recent ones, I’m 98% sure it’s

 

showing Royal Suites 12103 and 12105 side by side as they are on the deck plans - under the overhang, lined up with the Villas that are 2 floors above.

 

The layout and description of the suites shows a regular balcony (not infinite) off bedroom and a loggia (floor-to-ceiling glass) in living room. But in this photo there are clearly infinite balconies.

 

When it’s a new build of a new class of ship, can their renderings and descriptions be THAT off? Was it that way with Solstice?

 

 

It is hard to visualize from the 3 D presentation in the bottom depiction. Seems odd; if those are fixed glass windows on the right loggia it could be very hot...like a greenhouse in that area and that side of the suite. On the left side, there seems to a glass door with a view into the commode area...I expect this may not be the final plan,.

I saw a you tube video of one of the suites... sky suite I think.... the commode door looked like a translucent glass panel.. not clear glass. Looking at deck plans I can't see a spot that would allow the living area to have glass on three sides as shown. Cabins look tucked into the structure. I also haven't seen any sign of curtains or drapes... I wonder if there is a screen that gets lowered or some other high tech way of screening room from sunlight.

It is definitely a puzzle.

Excellent sleuthing though. You’re absolutely right about the ocean view cabins. So that may very well be one of the floor-to-ceiling windows in the RS - fixed, only looks like an infinite. That ship shell photo is old, perhaps another went in next to the other, afterwards.

I can confirm that cruise lines indeed make mistakes with deck plans vs. reality on ships before they have launched. I was booked on NCL’s Epic in 2010 before it launched for a 2011 cruise. I reserved a Deluxe Owner’s Suite which had two categories, one with an open air balcony and one with a solarium style balcony. We wanted open air and booked one per the deck plan description. When the ship was being built I noticed in photos coming from the shipyard that the cabin categories appeared to have been reversed and we were going to have a solarium balcony. Calling NCL proved fruitless as they only repeated what the deck plan showed. I took a risk and decided to change cabin categories to the other Owner Suite. This resulted in a price increase of $500pp because prices had increased since we booked. When we explained the issue to our booking agent through the casino he said he could not waive the price increase but that if it turned out that NCL made a mistake when the ship launches then they would waive it. I came here to Cruise Critic with my findings and several other cruisers changed their cabins like I did. We were all very happy to find out that we were right once the ship launched and they had the travel agent inspections onboard. We called NCL right away and they waived our price increase. What was funny was that even during the travel agent inspections they had a sign in the cabin still identifying it by the wrong category code with the wrong balcony description. It also took them months after ship launch to update it on the deck plans on their website. That kind of gross error by such a large company always baffles me.

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okay, here is a photo that appears to show Royal suite area on port side. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180721/1008d7650a64bdf110b6838afcebf504.jpg

Right next to luminae..(deck 12) you see a full window and a half window... next to it is a regular veranda. The pattern repeats with the next Royal suite.. then there is a single cabin next to the jut out area. Some weird stuff in front of that single cabin... not sure if that is temporary or what. I also see the cabins with a window and a half.. that are accessible cabins. Hope that helps

You people are the greatest!

I can confirm that cruise lines indeed make mistakes with deck plans vs. reality on ships before they have launched. I was booked on NCL’s Epic in 2010 before it launched for a 2011 cruise. I reserved a Deluxe Owner’s Suite which had two categories, one with an open air balcony and one with a solarium style balcony. We wanted open air and booked one per the deck plan description. When the ship was being built I noticed in photos coming from the shipyard that the cabin categories appeared to have been reversed and we were going to have a solarium balcony. Calling NCL proved fruitless as they only repeated what the deck plan showed. I took a risk and decided to change cabin categories to the other Owner Suite. This resulted in a price increase of $500pp because prices had increased since we booked. When we explained the issue to our booking agent through the casino he said he could not waive the price increase but that if it turned out that NCL made a mistake when the ship launches then they would waive it. I came here to Cruise Critic with my findings and several other cruisers changed their cabins like I did. We were all very happy to find out that we were right once the ship launched and they had the travel agent inspections onboard. We called NCL right away and they waived our price increase. What was funny was that even during the travel agent inspections they had a sign in the cabin still identifying it by the wrong category code with the wrong balcony description. It also took them months after ship launch to update it on the deck plans on their website. That kind of gross error by such a large company always baffles me.

 

 

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That's great that you were able to figure it out and change (and get reimbursed). Just like a lot of things in life, it pays to do the research.

I think that people on CC know more than TA's sometimes (probably because TA's have to keep up with so many cruise lines and other types of travel). I have looked at many TA sites to see their descriptions about the Edge and some have had inaccurate info on their websites within last month, such as: there will be Qsine, Murano and Tuscan on the Edge, one mentioned that passengers will ride up and down the MC, some still have the old CS renditions, one said Sky Suites don't have access to the suite venues and others still advertise Le Grand Bistro menu for dinner. I'm glad that I am getting pretty accurate info here - rarely have I been surprised on a cruise, if I did my homework here.