DaveOKC Posted May 15, 2011 #1 Share Posted May 15, 2011 A friend is thinking of taking an Alaska cruise and his wife is in a wheelchair. I know HAL has handicap deluxe suites, but he is thinking of going in the Penthouse for this special occasion. So, how handicap accessible is the Penthouse suite on most of the HAL ships (thinking of Volendam but night go with another ship)? DaveOKC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthC Posted May 15, 2011 #2 Share Posted May 15, 2011 How wheelchair dependent is she? I haven't been in the penthouse on the Volendam, but have been in the similar one on the Rotterdam. Unless she can do some walking, I think the penthouse could be a problem. The entrance is not too wide, and there's a corridor to pass down before you come to the roomier living area. She would have to pass the lavette and butler's pantry before she even got to the dining and living rooms. I never went into the bedroom, so don't know if there's a step up into the bathroom. The tub probably has the extremely high sides that the other outside cabins have on that ship. It might be hard to find room to turn the wheelchair while it was in use unless some furniture was moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted May 15, 2011 #3 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I'm worried about bathroom/shower. I don't think you can wheel a chair into shower in Maasdam or Rotterdam Penthouse which would make it the same set up (probably) for all "S" and "R" Class ships. Rotterdam's circular glass shower would not be possible in a chair, I don't think. Tub in Rotterdam's bathroom would not be possible if person is unable to stand or walk at all. Signature and Vista ships...... hmmm, we've been in Eurodam, Westerdam, Noordam and Zuiderdams. I think the shower has a lip. There is probably a grab bar but if your friend cannot stand at all, I think it would be very hard to use the bathroom. Aside from perhaps moving some furniture a little, I think she could manage through the rest of the suite in her wheelchair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ellen Posted May 15, 2011 #4 Share Posted May 15, 2011 The HA suites have a roll-in shower and a small ramp to maneuver over the sill (inside and out) to allow wheelchair access the verandah. The Penthouse suite won't have those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted May 15, 2011 #5 Share Posted May 15, 2011 HAL "S" suites on "S" and "R" class ships (including Volendam) do not have a roll in shower. They all (except for specific HC Suite) have tub/shower combination. We've been in them all. edit: Mary Ellen , When I first read your post, I thought by HA, you meant Holland America. Now I think you mean Handicap Accessible? :confused: I refer to them as HC so don't know which it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ellen Posted May 15, 2011 #6 Share Posted May 15, 2011 HA = Handicap accessible and they DO have roll in showers. Our non-HA 'S' suite didn't, but by brother's HA DID have a roll-in shower. He wouldn't have been able to take the cruise without one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted May 15, 2011 #7 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Yes, my original post stated HC suites have roll in shower. I looked at a deck plan and can't find which letters HAL uses to designate Handicap Accessible. I found the wheelchair symbol but no 'letters'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ellen Posted May 15, 2011 #8 Share Posted May 15, 2011 Sail - HA is the standard abbreviation for Handicap Access(able) just like the 'wheelchair' symbol, it is not a HAL specific designation. Now you know to use HA, not HC (who knows what that is an abbreviation for :confused:) when referring to handicap access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted May 15, 2011 #9 Share Posted May 15, 2011 I was thinking along the lines of HandiCap. Today is a good day..... I learned something new. Thanks for your kind assistance, Mary Ellen. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IRL_Joanie Posted May 16, 2011 #10 Share Posted May 16, 2011 A friend is thinking of taking an Alaska cruise and his wife is in a wheelchair. I know HAL has handicap deluxe suites, but he is thinking of going in the Penthouse for this special occasion. So, how handicap accessible is the Penthouse suite on most of the HAL ships (thinking of Volendam but night go with another ship)? DaveOKC Dave, I have photos and a review of Volendam's Penthouse, PH 7001, though they are from 2005, I do not think much will have changed on/in it. The PH does NOT appear to be Wheel Chair Accesible completely. Places such as Mary Ellen mentioned, i.e., the Bathtub and shower.... Here is the link to the Volendam Page Deck 7 PH (I think even a tall person will have trouble getting into the tub .... http://joanjett2000.topcities.com/HAL/Volendam/Deck-7.html Edited to add: I think this is typical set up for most of the Penthouse Suites on all the ships, with only slight variations:( Joanie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted May 16, 2011 #11 Share Posted May 16, 2011 The penthouse is not wheel chair friendly -- the dining room table would have to be moved the tub is a big raised one -- the shower is a thin tubular one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted May 16, 2011 #12 Share Posted May 16, 2011 The PS are wheel chair accesible, but the real problem comes with the bathroom. Depending on the amount of mobility, the shower is much easier than the tub, but there are steps leading up to the shower. The real problem that I see, if mobility is extremely limited is in the actual toilet area. There really isn't much room for the chair, nor a lot of hand grips to get up and down. I'm sure that your cruise will be a wonderful one. Enjoy which ever cabin you choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Ellen Posted May 16, 2011 #13 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Dave - You've received a lot of (hopefully well intended) advice here. However your/their best source is elsewhere - HAL's Access & Compliance Department. My SIL has found them VERY helpful. They have a LOT of information and have even contacted the specific ship in question to take measurements for some obscure need for my brother. They've also e-mailed photos to her of specific cabin details. I'm sure your friends will agree that HA is not one-size-fits-all. Something that is important to my DB's needs may not have any significance to your friend's wife - and vice versa. Phone: 800-547-8493 (or locally at 206-281-3535 ext. 4514) TTY: 800-254-8669 Email: HALW_Access@hollandamerica.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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