Mazatlan is carnival still going?

[bflohr]

Anyone have an update on Mazatlan. Is Carnival (splendor and spirit) still going to this port, or is it still being skiped?

[Durangler]

No, it's been dropped. Received this from my TA eariler today....

 

 

 

[Jenbo57]

Got an e-mail from Carnival a little while ago saying we're doing two days in Cabo, one in PV. NOT happy about this change at all!

[Rosefloater]

But according to the CCL website, the 9 day Spirit out of LA are still going to Mazatlan. I am not happy with this.:mad::mad:

 

Wonder if Carnival is using the violence angle for eliminating Mazatlan instead of the real problem: rising port fees.:rolleyes::confused:

 

We haven't received the email yet.

[oldstubblejumper]

But according to the CCL website, the 9 day Spirit out of LA are still going to Mazatlan. I am not happy with this.:mad::mad:

 

Wonder if Carnival is using the violence angle for eliminating Mazatlan instead of the real problem: rising port fees.:rolleyes::confused:

 

We haven't received the email yet.

My PVP indicated that the itinerary change is final and email are forthoming.

OSJ

[SNJCruisers]

But according to the CCL website, the 9 day Spirit out of LA are still going to Mazatlan. I am not happy with this.:mad::mad:

 

Wonder if Carnival is using the violence angle for eliminating Mazatlan instead of the real problem: rising port fees.:rolleyes::confused:

 

We haven't received the email yet.

 

 

No...we are booked on the 9/23 sailing and both Mazatlan and La Paz have been eliminated and have been replaced by Manzanillo and another day at Sea. The direction of the sailing has also been flip-flopped as well.

Instead of...at sea,Cabo, Cabo, La Paz, Mazatlan, PV, at sea, at sea. It's now at sea, at sea, Manzanillo, PV, Cabo, Cabo, at sea, at sea.

[bonnie&clydecruzers]

Anyone have an update on Mazatlan. Is Carnival (splendor and spirit) still going to this port, or is it still being skiped?

 

Splendor and Spirit both have dropped Mazatlan. Splendor is adding a second day in Cabo and 9 night Spirit cruises have dropped Mazatlan and La paz in favor of an extra sea day with a stop in Manzanillo.

[mk695]

yup, just got the email. on my november sailing on carnival splendor to mazatlan was cancelled. we have 1st day in cabo, 2nd day in P.V. and 3rd day back in cabo.

 

im really indifferent on the change, i've been to all ports and mazatlan is the least nicest and least convenience of the 3, imho.

[CupKayke]

I'm glad they dropped Mazatlan.

 

I could care less about LaPaz BUT another sea day?? Eh.

 

I wish they would have thrown in a day on Catalina Island instead of all those sea days.

 

I don't like how we are going to PV before Cabo ~ that was a surprise.

 

My relatives are not going to be happy with another sea day ~ they cruise A LOT (like 4 or 5 times a year, off to a Danube River cruise this week) ~ they are saying we should get a credit for such a drastic itinerary change and with yet ANOTHER sea day... :confused: I don't know. I like days at sea but not THIS much.... why not give us Ensenada or Catalina or at least one other day in PV??? Hmmmm

 

The west coast of Mexico is a mess. I can't believe we booked this cruise without researching first. It is what it is and we shall have fun, regardless!! :D

[ozzie01]

I'm glad they dropped Mazatlan.

 

I could care less about LaPaz BUT another sea day?? Eh.

 

I wish they would have thrown in a day on Catalina Island instead of all those sea days.

 

I don't like how we are going to PV before Cabo ~ that was a surprise.

 

My relatives are not going to be happy with another sea day ~ they cruise A LOT (like 4 or 5 times a year, off to a Danube River cruise this week) ~ they are saying we should get a credit for such a drastic itinerary change and with yet ANOTHER sea day... :confused: I don't know. I like days at sea but not THIS much.... why not give us Ensenada or Catalina or at least one other day in PV??? Hmmmm

 

The west coast of Mexico is a mess. I can't believe we booked this cruise without researching first. It is what it is and we shall have fun, regardless!! :D

we bought the trip insurance and may take advantage of that if you know what I mean, not happy with another sea day at all!!:mad:

[LETS PARTY]

Splendor and Spirit both have dropped Mazatlan. Splendor is adding a second day ihttp://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1300357&page=8n Cabo and 9 night Spirit cruises have dropped Mazatlan and La paz in favor of an extra sea day with a stop in Manzanillo.

 

Hey B & C Cruisers....come join the roll call for the 10/30 cruise

[mr jamms]

I just got this in my email

 

[CupKayke]

Awesome that we got Ensenada!! I just got my letter and they gave us a little bit of a different itinerary but DID go ahead and give us Ensenada!!

 

We are doing...

 

Boarding Day

Day at Sea

Dy at Sea

Manzanillo

Puerto Vallarta

Cabo

Cabo

Day at Sea

Ensenada

Debarkation Day

 

I'm soooo glad we got Ensenada... I KNOW it is VERY dangerous in Ensenada BUT they have WINERIES there... and I'm willing to risk a bullet or two for a good winery tour! ;)

[CRUISING71]

I would rather take a sea day over Ensenada.

[mr jamms]

I would rather take a sea day over Ensenada.

 

Then don't get off the boat, while we are at a vineyard you might get a chair by the pool

[bflohr]

Ensenada more safe then Mazatlan. Realy?

Come on. What has Mr. Carnival been smoking?

 

I'm going to have to rethink my Feb 2012 vacation plans.

[CupKayke]

Ensenada more safe then Mazatlan. Realy?

Come on. What has Mr. Carnival been smoking?

 

I'm going to have to rethink my Feb 2012 vacation plans.

 

You are correct about Ensenada.

 

I just want to say that. Lots of Mexico advocates will disagree with us but the entire situation down there is a mess. They had armed guards escorting the Hawaiian cruisers to Ensenada this year ~ couldn't believe it when I read the reviews. I feel like Carnival can't make me happy ~ I don't want too many sea days but I don't really want Ensenada. Why not give us Catalina Island??

 

And for the record, I was happy about Ensenada at first ~ until I remembered all the stuff about it ~ and my husband told me he doesn't want to get off the boat ~ and I went and re-read the Hawaiian blog/review.

 

My husband is hoping they turn the boat around and make it a Pacific Northwest Cruise ~ Victoria, BC, Oregon, Seattle, San Fran.... One can dream I suppose!!

[WINEMANVISALIA]

Sorry, Mazatlan: Carnival Cruise Lines Will Continue to Steer Clear of Troubled Port

 

(1:45 p.m. EDT) -- The Mexican Riviera can't catch a break: Due to "continued security concerns," Carnival Cruise Lines has extended its decision to steer clear of Mazatlan, according to a statement provided to Cruise Critic.

 

The decision affects itineraries for Carnival Splendor and Carnival Spirit. Word first surfaced on the Cruise Critic boards that Carnival had adjusted its fall itineraries for the two ships; in recent months, Carnival, Holland America, Disney Cruise Line and others have canceled visits to the troubled port following a spate of violence tied to the escalating drug war. Several weeks ago, Princess Cruises took it a step further and canceled calls to Puerto Vallarta.

 

Both Carnival Spirit and Carnival Splendor, however, will continue to call in Puerto Vallarta.

 

Spirit's nine-day itineraries from San Diego and Los Angeles will also include two days in Cabo San Lucas and stops in Manzanillo and Ensenada; the season runs September 2011 to March 2012. (Note: A previously slotted stop in La Paz has been replaced with a sea day, but not because of safety concerns. Instead, it was scrapped because the addition of Manzanillo made it geographically difficult to keep.)

 

Meanwhile, Splendor -- operating seven-day voyages year-round out of Long Beach, California -- will spend two days in Cabo, in addition to the call in Puerto Vallarta.

 

There's no word on when -- or if -- Carnival will return to Mazatlan. According to the statement, the line "will continue to work with the Mexican government and local officials to review their security plans for Mazatlan."

 

--by John Deiner, Managing Editor

[CRUISING71]

Ensenada more safe then Mazatlan. Realy?

Come on. What has Mr. Carnival been smoking?

 

I'm going to have to rethink my Feb 2012 vacation plans.

 

Exactly!!!

[tonit964]

Just got an email from Carnival on July 8th regarding my 3/16/12 9 day cruise on the Spirit and they have scrapped Mazatlan and La Paz for Manzanillo and Ensenada.

 

Princess has dropped Puerto Vallarta. Unfortunately, I think it is only a matter of time before the Mexican Riviera cruises are no more. :(

 

Toni

[lovevacadays]

It's good that they are keeping passenger safety in mind. I do feel for the people in Mazatlan that rely on tourism for their income. I've used a few of the tour operators and had such a great time with them.

[WINEMANVISALIA]

http://www.noroeste.com.mx/publicaciones.php?id=703906

 

this newspaper describes the murders from last week in mazatlan...i cut and paste article into google translate and it reads this way>>

 

Another crime in seafood, now in Palos Prietos

They point out that the murderer had eaten at the place along with a couple, but then the waiter came back and killed

 

12/07/2011

 

The body of Hiram Oscar Aguilar Gonzalez was picked up by personnel of a funeral home.:(:(

 

 

MAZATLÁN._Un employee of a seafood restaurant, located in Colonia Palos Prietos, was murdered allegedly by a man who minutes before consuming food locally with other people.

Hiram Gonzalez Oscar Aguilar, 29, is the name of the person killed, according to police officers who was domiciled in Fraccionamiento Lomas de San Jorge and worked as a waiter at the seafood restaurant.

The crime was recorded by police forces around 16:40 pm in the seafood restaurant "Chayito", located at the corner of Avenue and Calle Cruz Lizárraga Lola Beltran, the colony in question.

The preliminary statement of some people point out that the culprit was a young-looking person.

They commented that the murderer was in place in the company of a couple, the three ate, then retreated, but returned to commit the murder directly against Aguilar González.

The murderer left the restaurant and fled in a white car, it was said he escaped along Avenida Del Mar en route to the north of the city.

Municipal police and the elite group moved to the site and began the search for responsible, but failed to locate.

Red Cross paramedics arrived at the restaurant but only to confirm that Gonzalez Aguilar had already died due to gunshot wounds he suffered in the chest and face.

Within the business, the department of forensic experts of the PGJE found seven shell casings from 9 mm caliber pistol.

Military after they arrived, surrounded the site and took data from the victim and his car and then leave.

Once Agency staff specialized prosecutor testified intentional homicide in the murder, ordered the funeral home remove the body guard of the site and bring it to Semefo.

 

 

Seafood THREE FIVE IN VAN

On Thursday July 7, four men were shot in two seafood restaurants, one in the center and another in the Flores Magon. Waiter with the crime of yesterday afternoon, there are five people shot to death in three businesses of seafood in the city.

That day, around 20:55 hours, came a group of armed men at a seafood restaurant, located at the corner of Avenue and Calle Emilio Barragán Vicente Guerrero, and ordered customers to lie on the ground, then directed to a table where there were three people and shot them, killing two and wounding one.

The deceased were identified as Jose Rocha Lizárraga, a resident of El Walamo, Trustee Villa Union and Jesus Lizarraga, who said he was a singer of the band that played there.

The wounded man was identified as Christian.

Fifteen minutes later, at the seafood restaurant Las Palmas, located on Avenida Clouthier, the Flores Magon, gunmen arrived and shot two men at a table and killed them.

The dead were identified as Cesar Vargas Peraza, of Colonia Anahuac, and José Antonio García Moreno, Colonia Lomas of Ebony.

 

LIFE WITHOUT

A man was shot to death in the business where he worked.

 

Hiram Gonzalez Oscar Aguilar

He was 29 years old

He lived in Fraccionamiento Lomas de San Jorge

Worked as a waiter at the seafood restaurant

[JJ2sail]

I will miss Mazatlan also, but over 300 murders there last year, according to the US state dept kind of makes me think twice.

 

Ensenada while not the best option, has improved their port tremendously over the last few years. I'v gone every year the last few years on the Paradise, and it looks better each year.

[PAPERBKWRITER]

Splendor and Spirit both have dropped Mazatlan. Splendor is adding a second day in Cabo and 9 night Spirit cruises have dropped Mazatlan and La paz in favor of an extra sea day with a stop in Manzanillo.

Didn't read thru this entire thread but I'm on Sporit 10/21 for 9 days and Mazatlan and La Oaz are cancelled and Manzanillo and Ensenada added. That's from a Carnival email.

[bonnie&clydecruzers]

Yeah just got the Carnival email too. Yeah I'm on the same sailing. Looks like they changed the other 9 nighters for the second time and added Ensenada. Not to happy about going to Ensenada but what can I do. Just have to make the best of it.:D