sidari Posted March 17, 2015 #7526 Share Posted March 17, 2015 CTH ... Thanks for taking the time to post the pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen of DaNile Posted March 18, 2015 #7527 Share Posted March 18, 2015 Interesting photos - thanks for sharing the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterv Posted March 23, 2015 #7528 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Still wish they would post some showing the crushed area, as well as ones from the public area like the theater, restaurant etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranysT Posted March 25, 2015 #7529 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Thanks for sharing the pics. Wow, parts of the ship are still "lovely". What a totally tragic waste, that didn't need to happen. If only there hadn't been a "show off", look what I can do, on board. I won't call him a Captain, because he didn't deserve to be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pirate4me2 Posted March 25, 2015 #7530 Share Posted March 25, 2015 She looks like she was a beautiful ship. Such a tragedy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka's Skipper Posted March 26, 2015 #7531 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Thanks for posting the photos! I HAVE BEEN wondering if there has been any news about a auctioning off anything from the ship herself? Art?.......furniture?..china? ....etc? AKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightman1984 Posted March 26, 2015 #7532 Share Posted March 26, 2015 press release about a video, seemingly taken aboard the concordia without authorized access. If it's enough to warrant a press release, I'd like to see the video! http://shiprecycling.it/shipr-recycling-saipem-san-giorgio-del-porto/ March 26, 2015Regarding the video appeared on the internet and picked up by some media sources and on the Concordia currently moored at the breakwater of the Port of Pra Voltri for relief operations, the Ship Recycling Consortium would like to clarify the following. The Consortium Ship Recycling is taking steps to file suit to unknown for obvious violation of access to the wreck of the Concordia took place, from what can be seen in the video posted on the web in recent days. The Ship Recycling Consortium emphasizes that the wreck is staff on board even during the night, whose task is the defense of the ship in terms of government systems and systems for the safety of the wreck itself. A security service 24 hours 24 is present in the sixth head pier for access control area of the yard to the ground. Following this unfortunate incident, the Consortium Ship Recycling is taking steps to implement the security service staff also positioned at the breakwater where the ship is moored and with the installation of cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 26, 2015 #7533 Share Posted March 26, 2015 press release about a video, seemingly taken aboard the concordia without authorized access. If it's enough to warrant a press release, I'd like to see the video! I'd say its nothing more than a liability issue, in that it might or might not show violations of Italian occupational and environmental regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTH Posted March 27, 2015 #7534 Share Posted March 27, 2015 press release about a video, seemingly taken aboard the concordia without authorized access. If it's enough to warrant a press release, I'd like to see the video! http://shiprecycling.it/shipr-recycling-saipem-san-giorgio-del-porto/ I think the following YouTube link is the video they refer to, it would appear that the photos I linked on 15 March also came from this video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveslondon Posted March 30, 2015 #7535 Share Posted March 30, 2015 How about this: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/costa-concordia-shipment-of-mob-drugs-was-hidden-aboard-cruise-liner-when-it-hit-rocks-off-italian-coast-investigators-say-10144558.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 30, 2015 #7536 Share Posted March 30, 2015 How about this: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/costa-concordia-shipment-of-mob-drugs-was-hidden-aboard-cruise-liner-when-it-hit-rocks-off-italian-coast-investigators-say-10144558.html Can this get any more bizarre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted March 31, 2015 #7537 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I wonder if Schettino got a back hander. Maybe he had a part in that as well Sent from my C6903 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 31, 2015 #7538 Share Posted March 31, 2015 I wonder if Schettino got a back hander. Maybe he had a part in that as well Sent from my C6903 using Forums mobile app Much as I'd like to see him involved, most times I've seen this it has been low level crew who can stash stuff in the myriad of void spaces aboard a ship, and no one know better until a search is done. I wonder if the Mob is suing Costa for the lost drugs? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted March 31, 2015 #7539 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Security was clearly not much of an issue it seems for someone to be able to gain access so easily. With regard to the drugs story the only thing they have to go on is what someone was heard to say on a tape! In the last two weeks or so there have been drug busts/finds on at least three cruise ships with the most recent being in Malaga a few days ago on another Costa ship. An MSC ship was also raided in i think Brazil where a large amount was also found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeck Posted March 31, 2015 #7540 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Much as I'd like to see him involved, most times I've seen this it has been low level crew who can stash stuff in the myriad of void spaces aboard a ship, and no one know better until a search is done. I wonder if the Mob is suing Costa for the lost drugs? :D Not sure if you have seen this one http://gcaptain.com/illegal-urbex-video-inside-costa-concordia-wreck-super-creepy/ It must have been loaded as food on a pallet then stashed. When boarding there is a lot of pallets on the dock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chengkp75 Posted March 31, 2015 #7541 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Not sure if you have seen this onehttp://gcaptain.com/illegal-urbex-video-inside-costa-concordia-wreck-super-creepy/ It must have been loaded as food on a pallet then stashed. When boarding there is a lot of pallets on the dock That's the video linked a few posts up. It may have come on in a pallet (and there are more than just food pallets loaded weekly), but these tend to be sniffed by dogs in most places (not to say some money couldn't change that), but with hundreds of passengers and crew going through the port gates, and with crew supposedly vetted by the company, the crew are searched a lot less than the stores each week. And we don't know how much it was, just that a tape caught a mobster mentioning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeBeach Posted April 1, 2015 #7542 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Can this get any more bizarre? The way ships are suppose to be checked one would think this couldn't possibly happen without discovery. However, these days nothing surprises me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisrp Posted April 12, 2015 #7543 Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) The Costa Concordia life boats appear in this Aug-2013 imagery from Google Earth in Talamone, Italy. http://*******/maps/75SvU I wonder if they are still there or what happened with them. Darn it. The board will not let me add the URL. Type goo dot gl/maps/75SvU to view image. Edited April 12, 2015 by luisrp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glojo Posted April 13, 2015 #7544 Share Posted April 13, 2015 What concerns me is the lack of ability in learning lessons from any disaster involving cruise ships at sea. I have yet to hear of, or witness any training of launching lifeboats at sea in inclement weather. add darkness and possibly panic and the result is sadly predictable. we all like to say it will not happen, or 'This is typical of poor command and control' but if we do not train for an event, do not practice for an event that has the possibility of happening, then surely we are asking for too much of those we want to put on trial?? I cannot, and will not defend the indefensible, but I still feel the owners of that company got away EXTREMELY lightly and what lessons have been learnt and what further safety measures have been implemented? should there be training for lifeboat crews in deploying their craft at sea, at night in inclement weather, or should we wait for the next disaster and then all sit in our comfy armchairs and criticise those on the front line? Yes the behaviour of that crew may or may not have been of a standard we would expect, but were they were confronted with a situation they were not trained for... Was the ship was moving (being blown by the wind) and if so are crews trained to deploy lifeboats from a ship being blown broadside with the wind?? Yes they should have done much, much, much better.. No arguement, but a large company like Carnival can surely train their boats crews to a much, much higher standard and more to the point... Have the boats on their ships modified so they can be launched safely at sea in poor weather conditions. I am not asking for fare paying passengers to be involved in this training, I am however asking should crews receive training? Are there ships that have reached there sell by date and might be used for industry training purposes? Just me thinking aloud and hopefully folks will NOT think for one milli-second that I am in anyway defending the conduct of this ship's master. Investigations need to be held into his conduct and perhaps think of a better way to both select commanding officers and then have an ongoing training program to ensure these professional souls are of a standard we all expect. Has anyone accepted this disaster could have been so, so much worse and but for the intervention of Mother Nature, that ship could have sunk quite quickly with possibly a severe loss of life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisrp Posted April 14, 2015 #7545 Share Posted April 14, 2015 My opinion is that if you put that captain in any other cruise line under similar circumstances the result would have been the same. Life boat design and launching systems are basically the same across the industry and drills seem to be carried out about the same way too. There are some practical issues indoing the type of training you suggest. To have cruise lines do drills in inclement weather is hard because cruise ships try to avoid bad weather as much as possible so you cannot just do that regularly like drills done while in port can. They would need to take out crew members into some ship having the same type of life boat and then go out into inclement weather on purpose. What I don't know is if there have been any change in the design of life boat launching systems to make them able to launch under greater amount of listing. I know for a fact that in the latest generation of large ships (this started several years before the Concordia disaster) many ships were built with the life boats fully outside the hull. I was on the Carnival Magic in 2011 and noticed this fact. Carnival (Cruise Line) has two other ships with the same design. Norweigan Epic and later NCL ships are also built like this and so is the newest Costa ship (same hull design as the Carnival Magic). Also some of the newest Celebrity ships have this life boat design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Folk Singer Posted April 15, 2015 #7546 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Thank you to all who kept us up to date on the going's on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted April 15, 2015 #7547 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I think Oasis and Allure of the seas were the first two ships to have the lifeboats hung at the side of the ship rather than inboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisrp Posted April 16, 2015 #7548 Share Posted April 16, 2015 If Carnival Dream and Oasis of the Seas were the first ships to use lifeboats place outside the hull then Carnival Dream was the frist to do so. It launched about 2 months before the Oasis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightman1984 Posted April 21, 2015 #7549 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) The familiar Micoperi 30 crane ship due to arrive in Giglio tonight. http://www.giglionews.it/2015/04/21/il-rinforzo-per-la-pulizia-dei-fondali-arrivera-a-breve/ http://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=8757831 Edited April 21, 2015 by lightman1984 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTH Posted April 21, 2015 #7550 Share Posted April 21, 2015 The familiar Micoperi 30 crane ship due to arrive in Giglio tonight. Thanks for the info Lightman. Will be interesting to see the purpose of her visit, whether it's for lifting or accommodation or both? I imagine the Islanders won't be too pleased with her return!..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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