PA Dutchman Posted February 23, 2013 #76 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Anybody get any money for the Splendor for eating to much spam, or are they still on a holding patron ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmj2123 Posted February 23, 2013 #77 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The problem is the presumption that everyone has gotten a free cruise and is getting another free future Carnival cruise. If you consider the last Triumph cruise free, you have very low standards for cruising. Furthermore, some won't cruise ever again. Some won't ever cruise Carnival again. Carnival knows that. It's a sham. You're sticking up for a corporation that is taking advantage of their clients. That's why I'm LMAO. You're buying it from a $28 billion corporation. That's 28 BILLION DOLLARS! A 28 billion dollar corporation is buying for $500. LMAO! We're all working class people but some of you are drinking the Carnival Kool-Aid... Happy cruising!!! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk I consider the Triumph 3/4 of a free cruise... I don't believe the additional cruise has any monetary value because it is entirely possible that one may not take the cruise... But the money returned for the part of the voyage that was completed, is absolutely tantamount to a free partial cruise. As for Waldo's excursion question, anyway you look at it if you spent money on an excursion or a private excursion in Cozumel, these excursions weren't ruined or impacted by the fire. The compensation for those who booked the CCL excursions is just extra. I said earlier, if you are out more money than this, ask for it. If it is substantial or you were terminated and CCL won't do more, file a lawsuit if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusin Hogs Posted February 23, 2013 #78 Share Posted February 23, 2013 So an hourly paid person should get what they would have made ,if they had been back to work on time . ? How about the self employed as myself , I have a landscape business , Could I claim I missed out on doing a $20,000 job ? What Carnival gave was fair . You have to have a limit somewhere . How many self employed were on the Triumph ? I don't see them throwing a fit over missing work . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroader Posted February 23, 2013 #79 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I would take that free cruise and order as much room service, breakfast in the dining room and, lobster and steak as I could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wobblypops Posted February 23, 2013 #80 Share Posted February 23, 2013 While I wouldn't sue Carnival I want you to know how my job works. I work for a big pharm company and if I go one minute over my alloted PTO time I am dismissed. So, if this would have happened later in the year where I run my PTO time down, this cruise would have caused me to be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted February 23, 2013 #81 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Who cares Sarge? I'm not married to a cruise line. The corporation is nothing more than a corporation. They care no more about their customers than any other corporation. They do just enough to keep their customers happy so they will come back. If they were that much better, then no one would cruise any other. Get a grip. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD and greedy people are still greedy and even more so when they see deep pockets. gimme gimme gimme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yourbestfriend Posted February 23, 2013 #82 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Are those, posting here, asking Carnival for lost wages, pet hotels, baby sitters etc. people who were actually on the cruise. If they weren't, why is the agreement with those Triumph passengers and Carnival of any concern to them. I don't exactly understand the necessity of arguing a point that really has no impact on me, so I shall bow out of this discussion in futility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldocruiser1 Posted February 23, 2013 #83 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I'm sorry, is there a wage requirement now to cruise? Passengers must make XXX amount of dollars before they are permitted on board? Should Carnival now be doing credit checks to make sure that the people who are booking cruises make enough money to cruise on their ships? How many people making $16.20 an hour are cruising. Either some of you people are really bad at math or just over extended. I don't understand either of these objections, if someone is making 16.20 per hour that is 129 for 8 hours, you got paid with the 500, if you make more you did not, if you make less you got extra, does not matter though, because the couples got paid for both, what if only one worked, what if they had kids? The point is the 500 was a good faith offer for the conditions, after all the other things Carnival took care of which was EVERYTHING ELSE. By the way, remember the 500 = 1,560,000 for 3120 passengers quite an offer that they did not have to make, I wonder how many lawsuits there were that they lost/worked out from the Splendor? I do not remember any. My guess is the 1.5mill that covered the 500 was from the advertising account, you will see a few less commercials for a while, but the ships will still be full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldocruiser1 Posted February 23, 2013 #84 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The thing I don't understand about all the things Carnival did for the passengers, 1. full refund of all expenses (their words at one point on CNN) 2. free next cruise 3. refund of all ship expenses except art, gifts, and casino 4. $500 each passenger Here is my problem; The free next cruise, is equal in value to what they would have spent (spent and then got back) on the Triumph, Why not just offer them a free cruise, and let them get the best cabin available, including jr suites and suites (exclude the owner/president suite) The odds of all the passengers wanting to go on the exact same cruise, at the same time, is very slim, So wouldnt Carnival have gotten more for their money by letting them reward themself by getting a much better cabin and telling everyone how great it was? Just my thoughts Also, I asked before and dont recall any answers, Do you think Carnival has flagged the passengers FVIP number so when they do book they can thank them in a letter in the cabin, and the crew knows the history, so they make sure it all goes well on the do over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldocruiser1 Posted February 23, 2013 #85 Share Posted February 23, 2013 That would be an emotional distress claim. That's the basis of the class action suit that was filed last week. But that was for the people on the cruise I thought, what about the people at home that now have problems, (no I am not one of them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rare songbird1329 Posted February 23, 2013 #87 Share Posted February 23, 2013 But that was for the people on the cruise I thought, what about the people at home that now have problems, (no I am not one of them) Seriously? Sent from my SCH-I800 using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rottweiler Puppy Posted February 23, 2013 #88 Share Posted February 23, 2013 So an hourly paid person should get what they would have made ,if they had been back to work on time . ? How about the self employed as myself , I have a landscape business , Could I claim I missed out on doing a $20,000 job ? What Carnival gave was fair . You have to have a limit somewhere . How many self employed were on the Triumph ? I don't see them throwing a fit over missing work . I know you are talking about folks making crap up but.. Lets say you legitimately had a 20k job waiting for your pending you getting back on time but the deal fell through becuase you were not there. If you honestly missed out on 20k you would be good to go with just the $500. Really? Say you were counting on it and could prove it. You would let it go for $500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cushing985 Posted February 23, 2013 #89 Share Posted February 23, 2013 To the OP and others who think they deserve more money than given by Carnival...I don't understand this thread at all. Just hire a lawyer and get him or her to ask for the extra money. Of course, you would have to pay a percentage for the attorney's time but wouldn't you get either a dose of reality or some money? Posting this question on CC just introduces the opportunity for more speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdrescherRBL152 Posted February 23, 2013 #90 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Who are you to say that? Its not just about need but fairness but I would assume 100% of them need it. If your beloved company cost me lost wages and extra vacation time, I expect it back no matter the amount. You guys think folks who make over $16per hour (about what carnivals $500 covers ) are rich or something ? The problem is the $500 would acutally work out to closser to $20/ hour. As the ship was not due back till Monday, and I can only guess but I am willing to bet that most people are simmilar to me and my wife. And had already taken Tuesday off, which would be 3 days lost not 4. And if one works in place like me where we don't get paid for outr half hour lunch break, It would be a little orver $22/hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_G Posted February 23, 2013 #91 Share Posted February 23, 2013 The problem is the $500 would acutally work out to closser to $20/ hour. As the ship was not due back till Monday, and I can only guess but I am willing to bet that most people are simmilar to me and my wife. And had already taken Tuesday off, which would be 3 days lost not 4. And if one works in place like me where we don't get paid for outr half hour lunch break, It would be a little orver $22/hour This post is just too funny...fabricated rationalization. :D:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachT Posted February 25, 2013 Author #92 Share Posted February 25, 2013 and greedy people are still greedy and even more so when they see deep pockets. gimme gimme gimme. How is it greedy to ask for lost wages when clearly this was not a situation of weather, but a mechanical issue which does fall under what anyone should expect from a cruise line? This is about people expecting to be back home Monday who did not return home until Friday and as such lost at least three if not four days of work. Some people who cruise out of Galveston drive to the port and can be back at work by Monday afternoon if not sooner. I have a friend who is a skilled certified welder making $40/hr and works 4 10's most weeks in addition to many hours of overtime. $500 would not come close to making him whole for the amount of time lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Geegitz Posted February 25, 2013 #93 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Yea I think the monetary award should have been at least $1000 for lost wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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