Cruising legal question

[Out to sea!]

And then a bunch of people will post here saying, "HELP! I'm scared to go on Carnival because everyone's always getting arrested at the port!!!!"

 

*sigh* Good old Wal*Mart of the Seas :rolleyes:

 

Wouldn't that be an RCCL ship????? ;):D

[alligirl78]

Exactly. Won't he go to jail if he gets caught violating the terms of his parole? That would be stupid.

 

 

Nope..he'll go back to prison...not just jail. Parole is for inmates who have served time in prison for a felony, and been released on supervision.

 

Parole violations are more serious than probation violations and depending on what his original conviction was for, he could be looking at more than just slap on the hand. Leaving the country isn't some minor infraction.

 

IMO...it'd be absolutely STUPID for him to do it without permission. Unless he enjoyed prison.

[Rottenapple]

What is he on parole for?

 

I would tell hime to ask for permission. Now what if his parole officer make a pop up visit and your friend is nowhere to be found.....he will have a warrant issued is he really willing to take that risk.

[Noel182002]

I saw they deleted the question about the warrant I'm sure this one will be gone soon

[scooterpopsnana]

Okay so my close friend knows I'm going on my 1st cruuse next week and he asked me this question. I didn't know the answer but I promised to look into it.

 

Basically, it's like this. My friend is on Parole in Arkansas and he wants to go on a cruise. He doesn't think his officer will allow it, so he's considering going without telling his officer. His question is would he be allowed to board? He doesn't have any warrants oor anything. He's just on parole for about a year.

 

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My comment is this...while he may get on and off the ship without any problems, what happens if his parole officer comes to his home or workplace for a surprise visit and can't find him? Warrants may be issued and he may wind up back in prison. If his reason for going is to be with you, assure him you will cruise with him when this water is under the bridge.

[winddawn]

Okay so my close friend knows I'm going on my 1st cruuse next week and he asked me this question. I didn't know the answer but I promised to look into it.

 

Basically, it's like this. My friend is on Parole in Arkansas and he wants to go on a cruise. He doesn't think his officer will allow it, so he's considering going without telling his officer. His question is would he be allowed to board? He doesn't have any warrants oor anything. He's just on parole for about a year.

 

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Isn't the idea behind parole to give the offender the opportunity to show that they can live by society's rules? It doesn't sound like your friend would be following his parole rules.

 

I have seen people escorted off the ship on embarkation day. Department of Homeland Security does run checks against the passenger manifest. How lucky is your friend feeling? LOL.

[scooterpopsnana]

Department of Homeland Security does run checks against the passenger manifest. How lucky is your friend feeling? LOL.

 

This is very true. A friend traveling with us, was asked if he had his weapon on him. (law enforcement officer). He questioned how they knew what he did for a living. They smiled and said "we know".

[Out to sea!]

Nope..he'll go back to prison...not just jail. Parole is for inmates who have served time in prison for a felony, and been released on supervision.

 

Parole violations are more serious than probation violations and depending on what his original conviction was for, he could be looking at more than just slap on the hand. Leaving the country isn't some minor infraction.

 

IMO...it'd be absolutely STUPID for him to do it without permission. Unless he enjoyed prison.

 

Jail/Prison......for most of us non-convicts it's one in the same.

[bigshaun]

I appreciate all the responses. See, I had read somewhere, on some lawyer website, that customs only checks for warrants, and not probation parole. So I'm not really sure what to tell my buddy.

 

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[Elaine5715]

I appreciate all the responses. See, I had read somewhere, on some lawyer website, that customs only checks for warrants, and not probation parole. So I'm not really sure what to tell my buddy.

 

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Unless you are responsible for him, I would shrug my shoulder and tell him to ask the parole officer. My guess is he knows the answer but is looking for an accomplice.

[JUGGER]

Hi

okay so my close friend knows i'm going on my 1st cruuse next week and he asked me this question. I didn't know the answer but i promised to look into it.

 

Basically, it's like this. My friend is on parole in arkansas and he wants to go on a cruise. He doesn't think his officer will allow it, so he's considering going without telling his officer. His question is would he be allowed to board? He doesn't have any warrants oor anything. He's just on parole for about a year.

 

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hi----from what we had seen and heard----your friend cannot board--and if he does----then at the end of the cruise--we have seen --police waiting --to pick up the person---because he has to go thru immigration-------i strongly advise him to notify his parole officer of his intentions to go our of the jurisdiction---or else-----jugger

[tree.critter]

He needs to get permission. If he has been a good parolee and following all guidelines he may have no problem. I am wondering if there is court ordered restitution that has not been paid yet. Might be hard to explain money for cruise but not restitution.

[bigcraig]

Everyone is run through a national database and I would be willing to bet they will be waiting for him at the end going through customs.....

[5Hawkeyes]

Hi

hi----from what we had seen and heard----your friend cannot board--and if he does----then at the end of the cruise--we have seen --police waiting --to pick up the person---because he has to go thru immigration-------i strongly advise him to notify his parole officer of his intentions to go our of the jurisdiction---or else-----jugger

 

That is---really---good advice for---this person!!!

[5Hawkeyes]

JUGGER, I want to apologize for my prior post. It was completely inappropriate, rude, and unexcusable. I thought I was being funny and that simply was not. I don't know how to delete a post or I would. I sincerely aplogize for my actions. Everyone has different writing styles and I'm definitely not the spelling or writing police.

 

I'm very sorry!!!

[awhcruiser]

He may get on the ship, but disembarking and going through customs may become an issue. If he is arrested, it will hold up the line and there will be lots of unhappy people.

[Arusha]

Arkansas Parole Board's Conditions of Release:

 

http://paroleboard.arkansas.gov/AboutUs/Documents/policies/APBManual.pdf

 

3. RESIDENCE AND TRAVEL. You must obtain prior approval from you supervising officer to change your place of residence, stay away from your approved residence overnight, or leave your assigned county.

 

11. WAIVER OF EXTRADITION. Your acceptance of conditional release constitutes an agreement to waive extradition to the State of Arkansas from any jurisdiction in or outside the United States where you may be found, and you also agree that you will not contest any effort by any jurisdiction to return you to the State of Arkansas to answer a charge of violation of any of the conditions of your release.

[golfadj]

Why doesn't he just ask permission? I know parole is different than probation but a friend of mine was on probation and asked his probation officer for permission to go to Las Vegas and it was granted ~ he had to show his airline tickets, what hotel he'd be staying in and a phone number he could be reached at, etc. I guess it depends on his relationship with his parole officer and the nature of his crime if his PO would allow him to go but there would be a very good chance that he would be arrested at the port and get a parole violation which could send him back to prison/jail. He'd probably be able to take the trip but as others have said, someone would be waiting for him at the port and escort him off the ship in handcuffs...not a chance worth taking IMO but that's just me.

 

Wow why would he even think of leaving the country without the permission of his parole officer. Some people should not be allowed to breed.

[hannahsmomtoo]

Can I just point out one small thing that appears to have been missed? ( and I DO believe I read all 3 pages )

 

There are various levels of Parole violations..

Example..

Missing a PO office visit is not "as" serious as being pulled over with weed...etc

 

POINT HERE...

 

Its not that he "cruised" without permission ( if he were to go )

It is that the cruise ship is #1 Internationally registered...

and #2 Enters foreign waters.

 

I am a fed - and I will tell you. if caught, it is not ONLY a Parole Violation - it is a NEW charge of "international flight of a felon"... ( regardless of whether or not he intended to come back with the ship or stay on a foreign beach somewhere )

[golfadj]

Can I just point out one small thing that appears to have been missed? ( and I DO believe I read all 3 pages )

 

There are various levels of Parole violations..

Example..

Missing a PO office visit is not "as" serious as being pulled over with weed...etc

 

POINT HERE...

 

Its not that he "cruised" without permission ( if he were to go )

It is that the cruise ship is #1 Internationally registered...

and #2 Enters foreign waters.

 

I am a fed - and I will tell you. if caught, it is not ONLY a Parole Violation - it is a NEW charge of "international flight of a felon"... ( regardless of whether or not he intended to come back with the ship or stay on a foreign beach somewhere )

 

Wow really dumb to take a chance than