Giantfan13 Posted January 11, 2014 #1 Share Posted January 11, 2014 We are vegetarians and do not eat anything that even might have a meat base. When we were on the Glory over the summer, we went for pizza, but the sign said that it was made with 'Buffalo Mozzarella'. We asked the chef and he said it was made from the milk from buffalo (????), so we didn't partake in it. Is there a person or place I can contact to see if this is so, if any other things, like even a soup, has a meat base? I tried to email customer service on Carnival but never even heard back. Anyone? Cheers Len Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hftmrock Posted January 11, 2014 #2 Share Posted January 11, 2014 there is a special needs department that you need to contact. I dont know the number. I hope someone else can find it Here is the email specialneeds@carnival.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommy_Boy Posted January 11, 2014 #3 Share Posted January 11, 2014 We are vegetarians and do not eat anything that even might have a meat base. When we were on the Glory over the summer, we went for pizza, but the sign said that it was made with 'Buffalo Mozzarella'. We asked the chef and he said it was made from the milk from buffalo (????), so we didn't partake in it. Is there a person or place I can contact to see if this is so, if any other things, like even a soup, has a meat base? I tried to email customer service on Carnival but never even heard back. Anyone? Cheers Len If it was made with regular Mozzarella would you eat it? If so Regular mozzarella is made from milk from cows, what is the difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishnyc Posted January 11, 2014 #4 Share Posted January 11, 2014 If it was made with regular Mozzarella would you eat it? If so Regular mozzarella is made from milk from cows, what is the difference? Ditto. It's no different than cow milk cheese, goat cheese, sheep's milk cheese. Are you a vegan? I'm really confused by your confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffatsea Posted January 11, 2014 #5 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Yes, There are buffaloes in Italy and the milk from them is used to make mozzarella. Other cheese is made from animal milk too so if you eat cheese you can also eat the mozzarella. If you don't eat cheese then you probably won't eat pizza anyway. This is a very confusing post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roohound Posted January 11, 2014 #6 Share Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) Why would buffalo mozzarella be an issue if you are not vegan? It's not like they are grinding up buffalo meat to make the cheese. Your bigger concern should be the tomato sauce as often times there is chicken base in that. Edited January 11, 2014 by roohound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fireman935 Posted January 11, 2014 #7 Share Posted January 11, 2014 We are vegetarians and do not eat anything that even might have a meat base. When we were on the Glory over the summer, we went for pizza, but the sign said that it was made with 'Buffalo Mozzarella'. We asked the chef and he said it was made from the milk from buffalo (????), so we didn't partake in it. Is there a person or place I can contact to see if this is so, if any other things, like even a soup, has a meat base? I tried to email customer service on Carnival but never even heard back. Anyone? Cheers Len Wow. Just curious are you wanting to bring a lawsuit against carnival!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne123 Posted January 11, 2014 #8 Share Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) Is this your 1st cruise? How long have you been Vegans? Never heard of Buffalo Mozzarella and you are from NY? Edited January 11, 2014 by champagne123 xxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted January 11, 2014 #9 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Almost all of the vegetarian dishes have dairy or eggs or both. Vegan dishes have no animal products whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyancho Posted January 11, 2014 #10 Share Posted January 11, 2014 All soups, except fruit soups, are either chicken or beef base. That is why they are so yummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sedfar Posted January 11, 2014 #11 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Yes, Buffalo Mozzarella is made from Water Buffalo milk. Yes, lots on the menu is made with chicken or beef stock including boiling pasta in chicken stock. There is a vegetarian choice on every menu No one starves on a cruise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted January 11, 2014 #12 Share Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) http://www.cheese.com/mozzarella-di-bufala/ Water Buffalo Looks kindof like a cow to me. https://www.google.com/search?q=bufala+mozzarella&rlz=1T4ADBS_enUS294US295&tbm=isch&source=iu&imgil=-CpdJTmkuscnbM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcQc4CaoUj70clUb4dKeYgzb2Thb10wXYdpAvfOGRrgLrvYya88hog%253B640%253B480%253BQUDWp9x4YVorxM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fen.wikipedia.org%25252Fwiki%25252FBuffalo_mozzarella&sa=X&ei=us7RUpneKM-woQSHq4CgAQ&ved=0CI0BEP4dMAw&biw=1920&bih=1082#facrc=_&imgdii=-CpdJTmkuscnbM%3A%3BEJggCqCH-wpqHM%3B-CpdJTmkuscnbM%3A&imgrc=-CpdJTmkuscnbM%253A%3BQUDWp9x4YVorxM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fupload.wikimedia.org%252Fwikipedia%252Fcommons%252F6%252F67%252FBufala.JPG%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%252Fwiki%252FBuffalo_mozzarella%3B640%3B480 Edited January 11, 2014 by SadieN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poison7fl Posted January 12, 2014 #13 Share Posted January 12, 2014 It sounds as if you are either new vegetarians, or vegetarians who don't know what they are doing.... I am not sure what you thought cheese was made of, but it is dairy any way you look at it.. and Carnival does not do tofu cheese on pizza that I am aware. What diet are you really trying to steer towards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mapsmith Posted January 12, 2014 #14 Share Posted January 12, 2014 http://www.cheese.com/mozzarella-di-bufala/ Water Buffalo Looks kindof like a cow to me. https://www.google.com/search?q=bufala+mozzarella&rlz=1T4ADBS_enUS294US295&tbm=isch&source=iu&imgil=-CpdJTmkuscnbM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcQc4CaoUj70clUb4dKeYgzb2Thb10wXYdpAvfOGRrgLrvYya88hog%253B640%253B480%253BQUDWp9x4YVorxM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fen.wikipedia.org%25252Fwiki%25252FBuffalo_mozzarella&sa=X&ei=us7RUpneKM-woQSHq4CgAQ&ved=0CI0BEP4dMAw&biw=1920&bih=1082#facrc=_&imgdii=-CpdJTmkuscnbM%3A%3BEJggCqCH-wpqHM%3B-CpdJTmkuscnbM%3A&imgrc=-CpdJTmkuscnbM%253A%3BQUDWp9x4YVorxM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fupload.wikimedia.org%252Fwikipedia%252Fcommons%252F6%252F67%252FBufala.JPG%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%252Fwiki%252FBuffalo_mozzarella%3B640%3B480 I'm not sure that you would be able to get milk from that water buffalo. Seems like it just might be a Bull rather than a cow. But to each his own kicks I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted January 12, 2014 #15 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) I'm not sure that you would be able to get milk from that water buffalo. Seems like it just might be a Bull rather than a cow. But to each his own kicks I guess. D**n. Time to get new glasses. Edited January 12, 2014 by SadieN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted January 12, 2014 #16 Share Posted January 12, 2014 ............. What diet are you really trying to steer towards? pun-y, very pun-y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cccer Posted January 12, 2014 #17 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) In a different post earlier today, OP mentioned ordering salmon on a cruise. I would think fish would also not be allowed, but what do I know. Maybe they are new to the vegetarian thing. Edited January 12, 2014 by cccer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apodocade Posted January 12, 2014 #18 Share Posted January 12, 2014 It's not like they are grinding up buffalo meat to make the cheese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keel Haul Posted January 12, 2014 #19 Share Posted January 12, 2014 It's not like they are grinding up buffalo meat to make the cheese.quite right they probably are using rennet made from the stomach of a calf.https://www.vegsoc.org/cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadieN Posted January 12, 2014 #20 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Many cheeses these days are made with microbes not rennet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthlessBoss Posted January 12, 2014 #21 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Yes, Buffalo Mozzarella is made from Water Buffalo milk. Yes, lots on the menu is made with chicken or beef stock including boiling pasta in chicken stock. There is a vegetarian choice on every menu No one starves on a cruise Okay, buffalo mozzarella is from buffalo. Explain Buffalo wings:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hftmrock Posted January 12, 2014 #22 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Okay, buffalo mozzarella is from buffalo. Explain Buffalo wings:eek: it is generally accepted that Buffalo wings were first created in Buffalo NY :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giantfan13 Posted January 12, 2014 Author #23 Share Posted January 12, 2014 OK Maybe I should have explained this a bit further. We are of Jewish heritage and we try and obey the Kosher Dietary laws. Many people do not understand these, so it is easier to say we are vegetarians. We only eat Kosher meat. So, on cruises we only eat fish and only certain types of fish. We cannot eat anything that comes from a non Kosher animal. I won't go into many of the dietary laws of trying to remain Kosher while cruising, but the problem with the Buffalo cheese was one that we were concerned about. Buffalo is not considered a Kosher animal, so anything made from it's byproducts would not be considered Kosher. That is why I mentioned the soup bases. Anything considered in the meat family, has to be from a Kosher animal. That is why we would not partake in soups that have a meat base broth et al. That is why I originally asked where I could find out any info on the ingredients of some of the foods. again, sorry if I didn't make myself clear. And we HAVE tried some of the Kosher meals that you can order and be served. Please, I want to enjoy the cruise. That food is horrible. Cheers Len Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdschwrt Posted January 12, 2014 #24 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Buffalo is not considered a Kosher animal, so anything made from it's byproducts would not be considered Kosher. Len Buffalo, also known as Bison, is Kosher. If you doubt this, google Kohns kosher meat St Louis and you will find they sell kosher bison. There are a number of animals with split hooves that also chew their cud so cows are not the only kosher animal. The problem with cheeses is that rennet used to make the cheese often comes from an animal source thus resulting in mixing milk and meat. The same problem applies when gelatin is used in a food as some gelatins come from animal hooves. There are non animal based sources of these components but you will not know if these are used based simply on the ingredient list. There are many more problems with eating unsupervised food that I would be happy to point out but this would prohibit your eating anything on the ship, depending on your observance level, except the prepackaged kosher meals. My level of compromise outside the home is that I do not eating anything that is clearly treif, do not mix milk and meat and ensure meat dishes are not cooked with butter. Your level of comfort may be less flexible but I am not sure having ingredient lists for each food is realistic. Thats what a Hecksher is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccruisequeen Posted January 12, 2014 #25 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) OK Maybe I should have explained this a bit further. We are of Jewish heritage and we try and obey the Kosher Dietary laws. Many people do not understand these, so it is easier to say we are vegetarians. We only eat Kosher meat. So, on cruises we only eat fish and only certain types of fish. We cannot eat anything that comes from a non Kosher animal. I won't go into many of the dietary laws of trying to remain Kosher while cruising, but the problem with the Buffalo cheese was one that we were concerned about. Buffalo is not considered a Kosher animal, so anything made from it's byproducts would not be considered Kosher. That is why I mentioned the soup bases. Anything considered in the meat family, has to be from a Kosher animal. That is why we would not partake in soups that have a meat base broth et al. That is why I originally asked where I could find out any info on the ingredients of some of the foods. again, sorry if I didn't make myself clear. And we HAVE tried some of the Kosher meals that you can order and be served. Please, I want to enjoy the cruise. That food is horrible. Cheers Len Special needs will steer you towards kosher meals at the MDR. There will be a staff member who will help you with the following day. Embarking night you will be on your own. Make sure you contact them or speak to the Matre D when you board. You can see the entire menu and chose whatever is on there to fit your needs. Check http://www.zydecocruiser.net website for current menus for ideas Sent from my iPod Edited January 12, 2014 by ccruisequeen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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