CruiseAddict1982 Posted April 14, 2014 #51 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I hope you realize that the caaino will not open til 9:00 PM when docked.;):) I read that on this thread or another one. Why is that? That's fine anyway. There's lots to do until 9pm Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailBadtheSinner Posted April 14, 2014 #52 Share Posted April 14, 2014 I read that on this thread or another one. Why is that? That's fine anyway. There's lots to do until 9pm Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app This may be an oversimplification, but it was the best deal the CLs could get from the Bermuda government. Cruise ships of over 2,000 passengers (IIRC) pay a fee to open the casino; cruise ships under, no fee. The Bermuda government wants to attract cruise ships to dock in Hamilton and St George. It is already attracted HAL's Veendam for 5 or 6 visits in 2015. SBtS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hikingchik Posted April 14, 2014 #53 Share Posted April 14, 2014 If you go to the US CDC website and start searching for recommended vaccinations for popular Caribbean ports, you will see a typhoid and Hep A on just about every listing including St. Thomas. Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Forums mobile app I see your point, but aren't they stating that raw sewage is being allowed into the water around the southern beaches of Bermuda? Is this happening all over the Caribbean? Im disgusted at the recklessness of this. Ive considered Bermuda to be one of the most pristine, gorgeous places on Earth. I hate this.:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c breeze Posted April 14, 2014 #54 Share Posted April 14, 2014 This was also on the CDC website (and I was so looking forward to some good monkey/bat meat :D ) : Learn actions you can take to stay healthy and safe on your trip. Vaccines cannot protect you from many diseases in Bermuda, so your behaviors are important. Eat and drink safely Unclean food and water can cause travelers' diarrhea and other diseases. Reduce your risk by sticking to safe food and water habits. Eat •Food that is cooked and served hot •Hard-cooked eggs •Fruits and vegetables you have washed in clean water or peeled yourself •Pasteurized dairy products Don't Eat •Food served at room temperature •Food from street vendors •Raw or soft-cooked (runny) eggs •Raw or undercooked (rare) meat or fish •Unwashed or unpeeled raw fruits and vegetables •Unpasteurized dairy products •”Bushmeat” (monkeys, bats, or other wild game) Drink •Bottled water that is sealed •Water that has been disinfected •Ice made with bottled or disinfected water •Carbonated drinks •Hot coffee or tea •Pasteurized milk Don’t Drink •Tap or well water •Ice made with tap or well water •Drinks made with tap or well water (such as reconstituted juice) •Unpasteurized milk Take Medicine Talk with your doctor about taking prescription or over-the-counter drugs with you on your trip in case you get sick. Information for travelers on cruise ships Food and drinks served on board cruise ships are generally safe. However, be careful about what you eat and drink at ports of call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted April 15, 2014 #55 Share Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) I see your point, but aren't they stating that raw sewage is being allowed into the water around the southern beaches of Bermuda? Is this happening all over the Caribbean? Im disgusted at the recklessness of this. Ive considered Bermuda to be one of the most pristine, gorgeous places on Earth. I hate this.:mad: It happens all over the world. There are raw sewage discharges from the US. I think any small Caribbean Island is doing it for sure. Any beach you go swimming at anywhere....you take a risk. Here is an article from this weekends Washington Post that is of interest on the subject. http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/travel/is-bermudas-beach-sewage-problem-par-for-the-course-or-a-rarity/2014/04/10/5965a6ac-be8b-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html Edited April 15, 2014 by Charles4515 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiseAddict1982 Posted April 15, 2014 #56 Share Posted April 15, 2014 It happens all over the world. There are raw sewage discharges from the US. I think any small Caribbean Island is doing it for sure. Any beach you go swimming at anywhere....you take a risk. Here is an article from this weekends Washington Post that is of interest on the subject. http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/travel/is-bermudas-beach-sewage-problem-par-for-the-course-or-a-rarity/2014/04/10/5965a6ac-be8b-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html I had no idea to be honest with you. Thanks for the info Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islegroove Posted April 15, 2014 #57 Share Posted April 15, 2014 More sewage found today: http://www.royalgazette.com/article/20140415/NEWS/140419819 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hikingchik Posted April 15, 2014 #58 Share Posted April 15, 2014 im just still in shock over this beach sewage stuff. I had the belief that Bermuda was so pristine. How can they be so reckless with such a paradise :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Johnny Posted April 15, 2014 #59 Share Posted April 15, 2014 This is just awful. Where are the warnings that were to be posted to the public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islegroove Posted April 15, 2014 #60 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Government said the greaseballs pose no hazard to swimmers. Still not very tidy though! http://www.bermudasun.bm/Content/NEWS/News/Article/Greaseballs-found-on-South-Shore-beaches/24/270/76718 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaOne Posted April 16, 2014 #61 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Here's what commenters are saying in response to today's article about the sewage problem: These are not grease balls. These are fecal balls covered in grease. The Government civil servants and politicians are trying to spin this into a restaurant grease issue. Most Bermudians and tourists aren't stupid……Sewage is washing up on our shores all summer while the wind is blowing onshore. In the winter it is mostly going into the open ocean, including our fishing grounds. …and… The south shore sewage outlet has been an ongoing issue for at least 50 years. The Seabright pipe was extended supposedly beyond the reef line. The full article is here: http://www.royalgazette.com/article/20140416/NEWS/140419797 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islegroove Posted April 16, 2014 #62 Share Posted April 16, 2014 http://www.bermudasun.bm/Content/Default/Homepage-Article-Rotator/Article/Sea-samples-given-all-clear/-3/1288/76769 Government says the water samples are all clear today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julsluv2cruise Posted April 17, 2014 #63 Share Posted April 17, 2014 We are getting the typhoid and Hep A Sent from my iPad using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peg013 Posted April 17, 2014 #64 Share Posted April 17, 2014 http://www.royalgazette.com/article/20140417/NEWS/140419768 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimm124 Posted April 18, 2014 #65 Share Posted April 18, 2014 http://www.royalgazette.com/article/20140331/NEWS/140339974 Oh no, this is not good, I am always at Horseshoe Bay when we go to Bermuda, any update on this? I am going to look more into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailBadtheSinner Posted April 18, 2014 #66 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Oh no, this is not good, I am always at Horseshoe Bay when we go to Bermuda, any update on this? I am going to look more into this. from the 4/16 BDASUN: Water samples taken from South Shore in the wake of the appearance of grease balls were well within the accepted standards, Government announced today.....http://www.bermudasun.bm/Content/Def.../-3/1288/76769 If you want to stay current on anything that happens in Bermuda that might impact the cruise ship tourist, make a regular visit to the Bermuda Ports of Call forum. Here are 2 recent threads from there: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2018397 & http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2018348 SBtS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailBadtheSinner Posted April 18, 2014 #67 Share Posted April 18, 2014 http://www.royalgazette.com/article/20140417/NEWS04/140419743 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise_alot123 Posted April 18, 2014 #68 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Was planning to book my NCL breakway now changing my mind. Better think 3x b4 getting into the water b/c you are basically swimming and drinking other people poops which could be very dangerous and deadly. I'll pass on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c breeze Posted April 18, 2014 #69 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Was planning to book my NCL breakway now changing my mind. Better think 3x b4 getting into the water b/c you are basically swimming and drinking other people poops which could be very dangerous and deadly. I'll pass on this one. We were already booked (and into the cancelation period) when this came to light, so will just not go in the water at all. Bermuda is such a great destination and there are plenty of things to see and do, so we will just enjoy the other options available. I think if I was booking now, and was already in the cancelation period, I might look at a different destination as well. Seems silly to be so protective of Norovirus on the ship (which makes good sense) and then go ashore and get into water which the US CDC is advising Typhoid/Hep A shots for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SailBadtheSinner Posted April 18, 2014 #70 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Was planning to book my NCL breakway now changing my mind. Better think 3x b4 getting into the water b/c you are basically swimming and drinking other people poops which could be very dangerous and deadly. I'll pass on this one. Bermuda is much, much more than beaches. from today's RG: The latest water samples from the Island’s beaches have come back clear, Government said on Thursday. And bacteria counts were said to be “very low” for all ten beaches checked... http://www.royalgazette.com/article/20140417/NEWS04/140419743 SBtS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdarch Posted April 18, 2014 #71 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Was planning to book my NCL breakway now changing my mind. Better think 3x b4 getting into the water b/c you are basically swimming and drinking other people poops which could be very dangerous and deadly. I'll pass on this one. I would keep an eye on the reports, but not go to Bermuda because of it? No way. I don't see it as a reason for panic - much less a dealbreaker. As unpleasant as it is, the dumping situation has been like this for years - as have many US beaches. Where I grew up, we used to ski through the sewage outfall in Long Island Sound; it didn't affect me one bit; I grew up, out Long Island Sound in; outfall used to ski through the one bit hasn't affected me. Long situation where I grew Sound hasn't! :rolleyes: Edited April 18, 2014 by jdarch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckhog Posted April 18, 2014 #72 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) if you read the comment from the locals, they tend not to believe the government sources while I'm sure there is a lot to do in Bermuda, it is the pink sand beaches that I want to enjoy Edited April 18, 2014 by Puckhog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatball_nyc Posted April 18, 2014 #73 Share Posted April 18, 2014 if you read the comment from the locals, they tend not to believe the government sources while I'm sure there is a lot to do in Bermuda, it is the pink sand beaches that I want to enjoy ^ This exactly. I've read all the info and have decided to show it to my doctor in June. If she recommends any vaccines I might get them. ~Robin Norwegian Breakaway July 2014 Carnival Miracle 2010 Carnival Legend 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruise_alot123 Posted April 19, 2014 #74 Share Posted April 19, 2014 (edited) We were already booked (and into the cancelation period) when this came to light, so will just not go in the water at all. Bermuda is such a great destination and there are plenty of things to see and do, so we will just enjoy the other options available. I think if I was booking now, and was already in the cancelation period, I might look at a different destination as well. Seems silly to be so protective of Norovirus on the ship (which makes good sense) and then go ashore and get into water which the US CDC is advising Typhoid/Hep A shots for. We have been on 30+ cruises and just off the NCL Breakway last month to Bahamas and was thinking to book it again to Bermuda. Although we've been to Bermuda 3 to 4x and loved it everytime. However, I think if you're already booked you don't really have a choice and there are other things to do if you don't plan to get into the water so just relax on the the ship or visit around the island. As for us, I think is better to book a cruise to else where. Did not mean to scare anyone but swimming in contaminated water does seem scary and the last thing you want is to get sick from the cruise and it had happend so many times this year. Edited April 19, 2014 by cruise_alot123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hikingchik Posted April 19, 2014 #75 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I go to Bermuda for the pink sand beaches. And its a tragedy that whoever's in charge, hasn't fixed this problem for 13 yrs??? Im so disappointed, as Bermuda to me was the most pristine place ive seen. Ive been there 2x and never had a minute's concern over the cleanliness of the beaches. The locals seem fed up. I believe this will be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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