Mikesa1721 Posted August 25, 2016 Author #501 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I was wondering why there was a lull in the construction. Is this vacation break a Europe-wide thing? I.e., Saint-Nazaire shipyard affected as well? Sent from my SM-G920W8 using Tapatalk I think it is a Fincantieri thing,,,work on Meraviglia seemed to still progress at STX France,,:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tall-Cruiser Posted August 26, 2016 #502 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Tough as Leather - That first photo of the two you posted above is amazing. Also, I second Lloyd that it is cool seeing this process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclop Posted August 26, 2016 #503 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Thanks for the great pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikesa1721 Posted August 26, 2016 Author #504 Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) Thanks Kevin DeLorenzo and MSC Fans for the pics!!!! Edited August 26, 2016 by Mikesa1721 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted August 26, 2016 #505 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Mike ... Thanks for posting, is that bow section for another ship? Looks a bit small to be for Seaside, the aft cabins are coming along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikesa1721 Posted August 26, 2016 Author #506 Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) Mike ... Thanks for posting, is that bow section for another ship? Looks a bit small to be for Seaside, the aft cabins are coming along. I don't think so Sid,,,,it matches up to the paint lines to those in this pic of the bow thrusters,,, Edited August 26, 2016 by Mikesa1721 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted August 26, 2016 #507 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Yeah got to agree on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuervosar Posted August 26, 2016 #508 Share Posted August 26, 2016 First, thanks to all for the photos. Amazing process. Now, stupid question time. Regarding the bow thrusters, the size of those things look enormous, and I guess you need the horsepower to move that big mutha of a ship but....what effect do those three(?) through hull tunnels have on the overall drag of the hull? I'm just thinking a whole crap ton of turbulence would be created there when the ship is in "cruise" mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikesa1721 Posted August 27, 2016 Author #509 Share Posted August 27, 2016 First, thanks to all for the photos. Amazing process. Now, stupid question time. Regarding the bow thrusters, the size of those things look enormous, and I guess you need the horsepower to move that big mutha of a ship but....what effect do those three(?) through hull tunnels have on the overall drag of the hull? I'm just thinking a whole crap ton of turbulence would be created there when the ship is in "cruise" mode. It's hidden behind the scaffolding,,but MSC Seaside has 4 bow thrusters. Found a good article which sheds a bit of light on the subject of bow thruster drag on a ship,,Page 447 describes this affect :http://www.sname.org/HigherLogic/System/DownloadDocumentFile.ashx?DocumentFileKey=bd29425f-1c92-4519-8206-e0f256c3fdda. The article suggests that drag would be decreased by the use of conical fairings around each of the duct openings which you can clearly see in the photo. I also think the bulbous bow will help as well while the ship is at cruising speeds,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuervosar Posted August 27, 2016 #510 Share Posted August 27, 2016 It's hidden behind the scaffolding,,but MSC Seaside has 4 bow thrusters. Found a good article which sheds a bit of light on the subject of bow thruster drag on a ship,,Page 447 describes this affect:http://www.sname.org/HigherLogic/System/DownloadDocumentFile.ashx?DocumentFileKey=bd29425f-1c92-4519-8206-e0f256c3fdda. The article suggests that drag would be decreased by the use of conical fairings around each of the duct openings which you can clearly see in the photo. I also think the bulbous bow will help as well while the ship is at cruising speeds,,, Dammit, left all my engineering math in another thread. But I get the drift. Actually an interesting article. Never considered the flow on the intake side. I've never quite got my head around the physics of the bulbous bow either. Found some articles, seemed more like "can't hurt, might help." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted August 27, 2016 #511 Share Posted August 27, 2016 From memory doesn`t the bulbous bow create a void by pushing water sideways to help the ship move through the sea without creating the previous drag of older ships without one. The BB can also be filled with water to help pull the ship lower into the sea to help with stability. Also the hull shape design is used to minimise this effect as well,some of the North sea tug boats have the X bow which also minimises this effect. Strange that Aida and Costa have now gone for a bow that makes the front look like a WW1 battleship on their new designs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted September 1, 2016 #512 Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) Latest photos from MSC Fans.it Bottom right where the White block is looks like the start of the Deck 9 wide balconies. Edited September 1, 2016 by sidari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikesa1721 Posted September 1, 2016 Author #513 Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) Latest photos from MSC Fans.it Bottom right where the White block is looks like the start of the Deck 9 wide balconies. Progress!!!! The installation of MSC Seaside's duck tail,,,Many thanks to Kevin DeLorenzo at MSCFANS.IT for the great photo!!! Edited September 1, 2016 by Mikesa1721 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikesa1721 Posted September 1, 2016 Author #514 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I'll help you out Dave!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted September 1, 2016 #515 Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) Thanks Mike .... :D Thought I would throw this in, design change or so it looks on top of the aft. Edited September 1, 2016 by sidari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deliver42 Posted September 1, 2016 #516 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Great pics Mike and Sid. Thank you both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted September 2, 2016 #517 Share Posted September 2, 2016 Seaside bow. Thanks to MSC fans.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikesa1721 Posted September 10, 2016 Author #518 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Hopefully we'll see those aft staterooms make their way onboard this coming week!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted September 10, 2016 #519 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Looks like the front of the bow is there on the left ready to go in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted September 13, 2016 #520 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Seaside from the Bow to about Deck 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTBob Posted September 14, 2016 #521 Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) Well it looks like the Seaside will be ready for us in time (January 2018), but not Ocean Cay. Just saw the following tweet from MSC: #MSCCruises official ground breaking ceremony of Ocean Cay MSC Marine Reserve set for Oct 6, destination to open to guests now in Oct 2018. Bob ps - Maybe they meant Oct 2017??? Edited September 14, 2016 by CTBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted September 14, 2016 #522 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Hi Bob ... I think its right because Seaside is supposed to be the first ship to stop there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTBob Posted September 14, 2016 #523 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Hi Bob ... I think its right because Seaside is supposed to be the first ship to stop there.Unfortunately I just read that they are going to substitue Nassau for Ocean Cay until October 2018. I may try and change my reservation to 2019. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgaryhhr Posted September 14, 2016 #524 Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) Well it looks like the Seaside will be ready for us in time (January 2018), but not Ocean Cay. Just saw the following tweet from MSC: #MSCCruises official ground breaking ceremony of Ocean Cay MSC Marine Reserve set for Oct 6, destination to open to guests now in Oct 2018. Bob ps - Maybe they meant Oct 2017??? Everything takes longer than expected in the Caribbean. Edited September 14, 2016 by calgaryhhr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidari Posted September 14, 2016 #525 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Nassau was already on the itinerary anyway, another MSC whitewash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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