Oasis of the Seas Casino Table mins on craps

[Yoggi]

I was wondering if anyone has recently been on Royal Oasis of the Seas and can tell me what the table minimums were on th craps table?  I usually cruise on Carnival and it is $5.00.  I have heard that Royal has $10.00, but sometimes $5.00.  Thanks in advance!

[proggieus]

on both Harmony and Symphony the lowest I have seen is $10, they may do $5 for and hour or two in the morning but I have never seen it at night.

[cb at sea]

It's always been $10 on every cruise we've been on....the "odds" are awful, tho.

[tijc52]

On 7/24/2019 at 12:31 PM, cb at sea said:

It's always been $10 on every cruise we've been on....the "odds" are awful, tho.

 

What do you mean?  Are the odds different than in a "normal" casino?

[proggieus]

35 minutes ago, tijc52 said:

 

What do you mean?  Are the odds different than in a "normal" casino?

 

they only allow 2x your line bet for your odds bet-

 

so for  a $10 pass line bet you can only place $20 behind the line-

 

since the more you bet on the odds bet the lower the overall expected house advantage %  of your combined line/odds bet goes,many players like to see a higher odds bet allowed.

 

although this is waved if you bet $25 min, then they will allow 3x4x5x like most land based casinos.

 

the actual payouts and mathematical odds are the same as any other craps table.

Edited July 30, 2019 by proggieus

[tijc52]

Thanks you, proggieus.  If it's 2x odds, I'll probably be walking past the table.

[proggieus]

1 hour ago, tijc52 said:

Thanks you, proggieus.  If it's 2x odds, I'll probably be walking past the table.

its still the best bet in the casino-

 

the expected house advantage for a combined pass and odds per bet resolved is ~.006%































































 

 

[Icon901]

On 7/30/2019 at 1:29 PM, proggieus said:

its still the best bet in the casino-

 

the expected house advantage for a combined pass and odds per bet resolved is ~.006%

 

Agreed it's best bet in the casino but your math is a touch off: 

Pass Line =  1.41% House Edge 
Pass + 1x Odds = 0.84% HE
Pass + 2x Odds = 0.60% HE
Pass + 3x Odds = 0.47% HE
Pass + 5x Odds = 0.32% HE
Pass + 10x Odds = 0.18% HE

As you can see it's somewhat of a Logarithmic curve of diminishing returns as you increase odds.

 

You also substantially increase variance. Generally accepted buy-in size is 30x average bet. Assuming a $10 table with playing max odds, you would need $900 on a 2x table, and $3,300 on a 10x table. All for a .42% HE advantage (2x vs 10x)... an amount you'd likely need to play for thousands of hours to see any real difference (outside variance). 

Bottom line: There's nothing at all wrong with 2x odds 🙂 
 

Edited October 17, 2019 by Icon901

[Caribbean Drifters]

On 10/17/2019 at 7:32 AM, Icon901 said:

 

Agreed it's best bet in the casino but your math is a touch off: 

Pass Line =  1.41% House Edge 
Pass + 1x Odds = 0.84% HE
Pass + 2x Odds = 0.60% HE
Pass + 3x Odds = 0.47% HE
Pass + 5x Odds = 0.32% HE
Pass + 10x Odds = 0.18% HE

As you can see it's somewhat of a Logarithmic curve of diminishing returns as you increase odds.

 

You also substantially increase variance. Generally accepted buy-in size is 30x average bet. Assuming a $10 table with playing max odds, you would need $900 on a 2x table, and $3,300 on a 10x table. All for a .42% HE advantage (2x vs 10x)... an amount you'd likely need to play for thousands of hours to see any real difference (outside variance). 

Bottom line: There's nothing at all wrong with 2x odds 🙂 
 

Well said. So many people just know enough casino math to get them in trouble(and the casinos love it). Craps gamblers in particular delude themselves into thinking that adding more units to a low house advantage bet will some how increase their PROBABILITY of winning, when in fact the only thing increasing is their VARIANCE /Risk Of RUIN/EXPOSURE TO BANKROLL.

[bigrednole]

I have a question to this old thread. I have only played craps in a casino with $5Min. With a $10Min, how do you tip the dealers? I am usually throwing a chip here or there at $5, but at $10 I am not going to be tossing a lot of tips around or at least far less frequently.

[bigrednole]

Sorry for the question. I got my answer 🙂 When betting for the dealers, there is no table minimum.