lx200gps Posted November 15, 2021 #1 Share Posted November 15, 2021 We're in the final stages of prep for our trip this weekend to FLL, and I'm curious about the newly revised CDC Attestation form. It used to be a very simple form where you ticked a box saying either you had a negative test or had recovered etc... The new version is far more comprehensive and is divided into two parts, 1 & 2. Part 1 seems equivalent to the old version, but Part 2, titled " Passenger Attestation Requirement Relating to Presidential Proclamation on Advancing the Safe Resumption of Global Travel During the COVID-19 Pandemic" is very odd and gas some extra requirments. What are folks experience checking in at the airport with this new form (hopefully it doesn't have to be submitted online before) and did they require this Part 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisinFinsUp Posted November 15, 2021 #2 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I'm confused too. Part 2 is for "covered individuals" and requires post arrival covid tests. I cannot figure out what that means. Maybe I haven't had enough coffee this morning, but I think its confusing. Are vacationers "nonimmigrant"s? https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/NCEZID-FRM-Combo-Passenger-Disclose-508.pdf Part 2 Covered Individuals: "This means any passenger covered by the Proclamation and this Order: a noncitizen (other than a U.S. lawful permanent resident or U.S. national) who is a nonimmigrant seeking to enter the United States by air travel. This term does not apply to crew members of airlines or other aircraft operators if such crewmembers and operators adhere to all industry standard protocols for the prevention of COVID-19, as set forth in relevant guidance for crewmember health issued by the CDC or by the Federal Aviation Administration in coordination with the CDC" ---- Can anyone shed some light on this please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisinFinsUp Posted November 15, 2021 #3 Share Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) Well after another coffee I think I've figured it out. question 1 in part 2 asks if we are fully vaccinated. If "yes" sign the form as you are done. Part 2- questions 2-5 are only if you are NOT fully vaxxed. Edited November 15, 2021 by CruisinFinsUp 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer_310 Posted November 15, 2021 #4 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I was worried about the form too and had copies ready to present at the airport. No one ever asked for them. This was out of Pearson FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lx200gps Posted November 15, 2021 Author #5 Share Posted November 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, CruisinFinsUp said: Well after another coffee I think I've figured it out. question 1 in part 2 asks if we are fully vaccinated. If "yes" sign the form as you are done. Part 2- questions 2-5 are only if you are NOT fully vaxxed. I guess I need to drink more coffee ;o) Looks like you nailed it, though it's dreadfully stated in the document. As you say, Question 1 in Part 2 is very obtusely clear: "I attest that I am fully vaccinated against COVID-19 (sign the form to complete the Attestation). " I had missed the last bit in Italics which is all we need to know, though I don't why they make you repeat that you are vaccinated when you affirmed so in Part 1. Thanks for the sharp eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lx200gps Posted November 15, 2021 Author #6 Share Posted November 15, 2021 25 minutes ago, archer_310 said: I was worried about the form too and had copies ready to present at the airport. No one ever asked for them. This was out of Pearson FYI. I've heard the same thing as well. Did you not have to upload the signed form onto the AC web site beforehand, along with your proof of vaccination? That would be all they need, to know that you had submitted your "proof" electronically and so would probably not need to confirm it in person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brockmom Posted November 15, 2021 #7 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Is this form part of the airline ( in our case westjet) online check in ? Given at the airport ? or just something we are suppose to print and take ? I have only read about this form, haven’t been told about it yet by the airline. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lx200gps Posted November 15, 2021 Author #8 Share Posted November 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, brockmom said: Is this form part of the airline ( in our case westjet) online check in ? Given at the airport ? or just something we are suppose to print and take ? I have only read about this form, haven’t been told about it yet by the airline. thanks You will have to check the WJ site for their specific application. In our case, with AC, there's a checklist of items you have to supply (proof of Vaccination and negative test etc.) and they provide a link to the CDC site to download the specific form. The CDC site is https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/NCEZID-FRM-Combo-Passenger-Disclose-508.pdf But be careful, there at least three different versions of Form 0920-1318 and this latest version is much bigger than the previous two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brockmom Posted November 15, 2021 #9 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Thank you I have read it over but don’t see any indication of it on the West jet site. I am wondering if maybe they give it out on the plane i will follow up Brockmom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisinFinsUp Posted November 15, 2021 #10 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, lx200gps said: I guess I need to drink more coffee ;o) Looks like you nailed it, though it's dreadfully stated in the document. As you say, Question 1 in Part 2 is very obtusely clear: "I attest that I am fully vaccinated against COVID-19 (sign the form to complete the Attestation). " I had missed the last bit in Italics which is all we need to know, though I don't why they make you repeat that you are vaccinated when you affirmed so in Part 1. Thanks for the sharp eyes. It is very poorly worded and very poorly organized. Usually forms I've seen are more clear about "if you answer yes goto step xx and skip steps cc thru mm" . This one is awful! 1 hour ago, brockmom said: Is this form part of the airline ( in our case westjet) online check in ? Given at the airport ? or just something we are suppose to print and take ? I have only read about this form, haven’t been told about it yet by the airline. thanks This is a form that the CDC currently requires the airlines to collect from their passengers flying into the US. I'd print and fill it in and take it with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemoose Posted November 15, 2021 #11 Share Posted November 15, 2021 does this form apply to land crossings as well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisinFinsUp Posted November 15, 2021 #12 Share Posted November 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, Bluemoose said: does this form apply to land crossings as well ? From the top of the form: This combined passenger disclosure and attestation fulfills the requirements of U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Orders: Requirement for Proof of Negative COVID-19 Test Result or Recovery from COVID-19 for All Airline Passengers Arriving into the United States and Order Implementing Presidential Proclamation on Advancing the Safe Resumption of Global Travel During the COVID-19 Pandemic. 1 As directed by the CDC and the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), including through a forthcoming Security Directive, to be issued after consultation with CDC, and consistent with CDC’s Order implementing the Presidential Proclamation, all airline or other aircraft operators must provide the following disclosures to all passengers prior to their boarding a flight from a foreign country to the United States. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted November 15, 2021 #13 Share Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, brockmom said: Thank you I have read it over but don’t see any indication of it on the West jet site. I am wondering if maybe they give it out on the plane i will follow up Brockmom No, you will have to complete the form prior to boarding. Remember, if you are flying commercially, you will go through the US CBP pre-clearance process at the airport and are deemed to have entered the US before you set foot on the plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brockmom Posted November 15, 2021 #14 Share Posted November 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Fouremco said: No, you will have to complete the form prior to boarding. Remember, if you are flying commercially, you will go through the US CBP pre-clearance process at the airport and are deemed to have entered the US before you set foot on the plane. Right ! good point . I will be sure to print. thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluemoose Posted November 15, 2021 #15 Share Posted November 15, 2021 I read on another US site, this only applies to planes, not land crossings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archer_310 Posted November 16, 2021 #16 Share Posted November 16, 2021 14 hours ago, lx200gps said: I've heard the same thing as well. Did you not have to upload the signed form onto the AC web site beforehand, along with your proof of vaccination? That would be all they need, to know that you had submitted your "proof" electronically and so would probably not need to confirm it in person? I was flying WJ. Did not have to upload anything ahead of time. Was never asked for the attestation form prior to boarding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netpj Posted December 9, 2021 #17 Share Posted December 9, 2021 We are flying Westjet next week and have not found any reference to this Form. Has anyone travelled by air in the last week or so to the US? Do we need to present hard copy of it at check-in or is it submitted in advance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertaCruisers Posted December 9, 2021 #18 Share Posted December 9, 2021 In August when we flew, the Air Canada check in lady asked to see our form and gave them back and then there was a table set up in Pearsons with a guy checking your ID versus the form and taking the form. In October when we flew, the Air Canada online check in process asked the same questions as on the form. When we checked in the Air Canada lady said she didn't need to see our form as we had made the attestation during check in. No one else asked for the form. We leave on December 22. My plan is to print the forms, complete and sign them and have them with me just in case any one asks, but I'm not going to bring them out unless someone asks, and I'm guessing no one will ask for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wendycook22 Posted December 9, 2021 #19 Share Posted December 9, 2021 On 11/15/2021 at 1:05 PM, Fouremco said: No, you will have to complete the form prior to boarding. Remember, if you are flying commercially, you will go through the US CBP pre-clearance process at the airport and are deemed to have entered the US before you set foot on the plane. I just checked in for my AC flight, and it was part of the check in process. I had my physical forms printed off and ready to go but noticed the questions were included during the check in process. I will bring them just in case. WestJet may likely handle it in the same fashion. Having it electronic verses paper is probably much more efficient for those handling/verifying the forms. I have also heard the airline may also sometimes provide the form to passengers if needed . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted December 9, 2021 #20 Share Posted December 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, wendycook22 said: I just checked in for my AC flight, and it was part of the check in process. I had my physical forms printed off and ready to go but noticed the questions were included during the check in process. I will bring them just in case. WestJet may likely handle it in the same fashion. Having it electronic verses paper is probably much more efficient for those handling/verifying the forms. I have also heard the airline may also sometimes provide the form to passengers if needed . While the CDC website still speaks of the attestation form, and an updated form was released last week, I agree with you that the airlines are in all probability handling it electronically whenever possible. For anyone interested in the updated form: https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/pdf/Combined-Passenger-Attestation-Amended-Testing-Order-12-02-2021-p.pdf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14husky Posted December 9, 2021 #21 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Thanks for the information. One question: Do we have to carry all 7 pages of this declaration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brockmom Posted December 9, 2021 #22 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Sorry late to the party here… but yes it seems Air Canada likes the paper or at least did last month.. but Westjet it is not required. Only electronic as has been stated. enjoy your cruise Brockmom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted December 9, 2021 #23 Share Posted December 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, 14husky said: Thanks for the information. One question: Do we have to carry all 7 pages of this declaration I'd pose that question to your airline. I'd like to say "no", that it will in all probability be handled electronically, but it's always possible that there will be an exception. If no one has asked for it by time you are at the gate and ready to board, chuck it. If you do print it, make sure you use double-sided printing to save some weight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bookbabe Posted December 10, 2021 #24 Share Posted December 10, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 1:44 PM, netpj said: We are flying Westjet next week and have not found any reference to this Form. Has anyone travelled by air in the last week or so to the US? Do we need to present hard copy of it at check-in or is it submitted in advance? The attestation form is part of the online checkin process as of the most recent update to the WestJet app. They only need you to read an agree to it online, or at least that was the case last Friday when we flew to Orlando. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fouremco Posted December 11, 2021 #25 Share Posted December 11, 2021 6 hours ago, GeriatricNurse said: Fouremco, are you aware if there is an updated version that can be completed online, before being printed off, (as there was with the 'original' version)! I'm not aware of one. As most people would just have to tick a couple of boxes before printing their name, signing and dating the form, it might not have been deemed necessary, especially as airlines seem to be opting for collecting the information during check in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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