Rare KeithJenner Posted September 30 #151 Share Posted September 30 3 minutes ago, ziggyuk said: My PCC said there would be no cancelling of Free at Sea, it just wont be available for purchase from tomorrow, those who have it keep it unless doing something like an upgrade when you are compelled to take the latest offer which is More at Sea. Yeah, but this discussion is about free at sea plus (hence the talk of refunds). The document shared earlier states that those with existing bookings can keep free at sea or pay the difference for more at sea, so that bit looks fairly clear. However as a user of free at sea plus there is a potential of us losing the ability to upgrade. Our booked cruises are all over a year out, so there is plenty of time for things to change before we sail, so this will be a case of wait and see for us, even after they announce tomorrow. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrik Posted September 30 #152 Share Posted September 30 9 minutes ago, DCGuy64 said: Do you mean you've already fully paid for the 5 cruises, or just the deposits? I have paid deposits on the five, but have paid the FAS+ at the time of booking. Reread the T&C and can’t find anything that NCL reserves the right to take away something <I’ve already paid for, but I might be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ziggyuk Posted September 30 #153 Share Posted September 30 1 minute ago, KeithJenner said: Yeah, but this discussion is about free at sea plus (hence the talk of refunds). The document shared earlier states that those with existing bookings can keep free at sea or pay the difference for more at sea, so that bit looks fairly clear. However as a user of free at sea plus there is a potential of us losing the ability to upgrade. Our booked cruises are all over a year out, so there is plenty of time for things to change before we sail, so this will be a case of wait and see for us, even after they announce tomorrow. Sorry my misunderstanding, we did not talk about the Plus, but I know they will be cancelling and refunding additional speciality meals purchased so you never know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacation44 Posted September 30 #154 Share Posted September 30 16 minutes ago, ziggyuk said: He also told me that and extra speciality meals bought in advance would be refunded and no package of speciality meals will be available either before the cruise or onboard and that the only option would be to pay full price on the door (I suspect increased prices too). I'm not talking about ones included in the current Ffree at Sea, I'm talking about additional meals purchased at a reduced price. Interesting. My PCC said the two additional dining credits I purchased today for my son and his girlfriend would be kept. I purposely purchased them today for June 2025 to lock in the current rate of $82.80 for two credits ($165.60 in total for both of them). I guess we will see what happens. He also said the cover charge price will be $60. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menocchio Posted September 30 #155 Share Posted September 30 2 hours ago, ChiefMateJRK said: Well, that looks like a free upgrade for those that already booked under FAS. So I've got that going for me. Wonder what people who already bought FAS+ will get. A refund, I would hope. So, they're killing FAS and replacing it with something more expensive that has a better drinks package (but not as good as the upgraded premium packages curently sold since at a minimum it doesn't include specialty coffee). This sounds bad. I guess I'd need to see the actual price per day for Americans (maybe it is in fact super cheap), but this doesn't sound good. FAS was bringing something to the table for NCL that the other lines lacked. Everybody has an all-inclusive package. NCL was the only of the big three that gave it away (for gratuities only, but that's still pretty cheap). One less thing they have going for them. But congrats to Haven people, I guess. This is all good news for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare ziggyuk Posted September 30 #156 Share Posted September 30 3 minutes ago, vacation44 said: Interesting. My PCC said the two additional dining credits I purchased today for my son and his girlfriend would be kept. I purposely purchased them today for June 2025 to lock in the current rate of $82.80 for two credits ($165.60 in total for both of them). I guess we will see what happens. He also said the cover charge price will be $60. Yes, I was also told the cover charge will be $60 from tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted September 30 #157 Share Posted September 30 11 minutes ago, Fredrik said: I have paid deposits on the five, but have paid the FAS+ at the time of booking. Reread the T&C and can’t find anything that NCL reserves the right to take away something <I’ve already paid for, but I might be wrong. Thanks for your response. I would say your chances are good of getting a refund, then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare laudergayle Posted September 30 #158 Share Posted September 30 22 minutes ago, Menocchio said: FAS was bringing something to the table for NCL that the other lines lacked. Everybody has an all-inclusive package. NCL was the only of the big three that gave it away (for gratuities only, but that's still pretty cheap). One less thing they have going for them. NCL was never giving anything away for Free. It was always built into the rate. It just looked like it was free. It looks like NCL is going to mimic Princess booking process. They advertise base rates and then you select if you want the Princess Plus. If NCL is going to follow that lead, I think it is smart for them. Reel people in with an attractive base offering then allow the buyer to say they want more, I.e., MAS. I don’t think the new MAS package is going to feel much different than the current FAS. The marketing blurb about premium drinks as part of the MAS is likely nothing much..in other words, don’t expect a big difference from what is offered today. Longer cruises do get more specialty dining…but the cost to upgrade also increases. FAS+ cruisers are the losers with MAS. It will be interesting to see what higher end alcohol is actually stocked onboard beginning in 2025. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warm-Water Diver Posted September 30 #159 Share Posted September 30 So I have a 7 day cruise booked for Jan 15th 2025. I booked with 1 FAS meal and will get 2 Latitude member (Sapphire) meals. I was debating about adding the "additional" specialty dining for 2 additional meals at $82.80 per person ($165.60 total). I read that they might be going to door cover charge of $60 per meal at all restaurants? If that's true, should I book the additional 2 meals today to save $$ before the October 1 announcement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare laudergayle Posted September 30 #160 Share Posted September 30 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Warm-Water Diver said: So I have a 7 day cruise booked for Jan 15th 2025. I booked with 1 FAS meal and will get 2 Latitude member (Sapphire) meals. I was debating about adding the "additional" specialty dining for 2 additional meals at $82.80 per person ($165.60 total). I read that they might be going to door cover charge of $60 per meal at all restaurants? If that's true, should I book the additional 2 meals today to save $$ before the October 1 announcement? If you know you want them, by all means book now. Actually, after giving you this advice I just bought the 2 extra SD meals for our November ‘25 cruise. Edited September 30 by laudergayle 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacation44 Posted September 30 #161 Share Posted September 30 2 minutes ago, Warm-Water Diver said: So I have a 7 day cruise booked for Jan 15th 2025. I booked with 1 FAS meal and will get 2 Latitude member (Sapphire) meals. I was debating about adding the "additional" specialty dining for 2 additional meals at $82.80 per person ($165.60 total). I read that they might be going to door cover charge of $60 per meal at all restaurants? If that's true, should I book the additional 2 meals today to save $$ before the October 1 announcement? I did this morning. I was also told that even though I locked in the cheaper price, when used, the new offerings would be included such as three apps and two desserts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yakcruiser Posted September 30 #162 Share Posted September 30 I booked 4 extra meals for my 25-day cruise in April two days ago. It looks like I might have made the right choice. Fingers crossed! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrik Posted September 30 #163 Share Posted September 30 I’m not sure if NCLH want to align NCLs FAS to More at Sea to go with sister brand Oceania ”Simply more”, but I really liked the FAS…. Not because it was free, it never is, but because it played on Freestyle cruising and Free at Sea is simply more appropriate for NCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warm-Water Diver Posted September 30 #164 Share Posted September 30 Thanks! Booked the additional 2 meals just now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eno Posted September 30 #165 Share Posted September 30 So I have the FAS+ added to my reservation, purchased 4 night specialty dining for my daughter (3rd guest in the room). Waiting to see how things play out. I want high end drinks - I want my Ron Zacapa rum, Whistle Pig Rye, Macallan 12 yr, Don Julio and Patron and 40% off of bottles of champagne not included. I want my water, starbucks and unlimited WIF (non-streaming). I am amazed that NCL is the only line that doesn't include water - still or sparkling in basic packages. Not a deal breaker as I can buy but I don't want to be nickeled and dimed when I cruise. Princess caps at 15 drinks per day - fine but high end. Celebrity - expensive drinks but have found great itineraries - hate the nonrefundable deposit/refundable deposit difference. NCL - waiting to see what happens for my 2026 booked cruise. Liked the FAS+ but will jump ship to another line if not happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panhandle Couple Posted September 30 #166 Share Posted September 30 Booked a 2025 cruise today (other specials ending, not related to this topic) and then bought the 2 meal add-on per suggestions above. Lets see what happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njhorseman Posted October 1 #167 Share Posted October 1 2 hours ago, Fredrik said: I’m not sure if NCLH want to align NCLs FAS to More at Sea to go with sister brand Oceania ”Simply more”, but I really liked the FAS…. Not because it was free, it never is, but because it played on Freestyle cruising and Free at Sea is simply more appropriate for NCL. Oceania is eliminating Simply More effective with bookings made on October 1 for cruises embarking on or after Jan. 1, 2025. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted October 1 #168 Share Posted October 1 Additional dining night packages will no longer be offered for purchase, however any previously purchased dining nights will be honored onboard. Guests who would like to dine at specialty restaurants beyond the number of dining nights included with the More at Sea™ or guests who are not taking advantage of More At Sea™ can eat at specialty restaurants by paying the cover charge at the respective restaurants. All specialty restaurants will have a cover charge. Cover charges are as follows: Steak, Teppanyaki, French, and Seafood have a $60 cover charge. Brazil, Asian, Food Republic, and Sushi have a $50 cover charge. Italian, BBQ, Pincho, and Mexican have a $40 cover charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrik Posted October 1 #169 Share Posted October 1 So we now have it official that all pre booked FAS+ packages for 2o25 will be refunded. The Premium Plus Beverage Package and Free at Sea Plus will be sunsetting with the addition of More At Sea™. All previously upgraded beverage packages will be removed and the original form of payment will be refunded. The enhanced More at Sea™ beverage package includes more beverage brands across all categories and because we want our guests to experience MORE, all guests sailing in 2025 and beyond, regardless of whether they have Free at Sea or More at Sea™ will be able to take advantage of the enhanced beverage offerings at no additional cost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted October 1 #170 Share Posted October 1 I previously posted…. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BirdTravels Posted October 1 #171 Share Posted October 1 5 minutes ago, Fredrik said: So we now have it official that all pre booked FAS+ packages for 2o25 will be refunded. The Premium Plus Beverage Package and Free at Sea Plus will be sunsetting with the addition of More At Sea™. All previously upgraded beverage packages will be removed and the original form of payment will be refunded. The enhanced More at Sea™ beverage package includes more beverage brands across all categories and because we want our guests to experience MORE, all guests sailing in 2025 and beyond, regardless of whether they have Free at Sea or More at Sea™ will be able to take advantage of the enhanced beverage offerings at no additional cost! They were probably bleeding money with the Plus packages. So,,, they moved some cheap liquor to under $15 and charge for everything >$15 either More. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredrik Posted October 1 #172 Share Posted October 1 9 minutes ago, BirdTravels said: They were probably bleeding money with the Plus packages. So,,, they moved some cheap liquor to under $15 and charge for everything >$15 either More. I was fearing an upcoming bankruptcy on my champagne consumption alone 🤣 I will really miss the plus package 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare DCGuy64 Posted October 1 #173 Share Posted October 1 6 hours ago, Fredrik said: So we now have it official that all pre booked FAS+ packages for 2o25 will be refunded. The Premium Plus Beverage Package and Free at Sea Plus will be sunsetting with the addition of More At Sea™. All previously upgraded beverage packages will be removed and the original form of payment will be refunded. The enhanced More at Sea™ beverage package includes more beverage brands across all categories and because we want our guests to experience MORE, all guests sailing in 2025 and beyond, regardless of whether they have Free at Sea or More at Sea™ will be able to take advantage of the enhanced beverage offerings at no additional cost! So I was right! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detroitlions Posted October 1 #174 Share Posted October 1 Reading the new rules on all of this there is no longer a $15 max per drink. That must mean some of the real high in stuff will not be available or some kind of special purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eno Posted October 1 #175 Share Posted October 1 High end stuff will now be in the Connoisseur Collection - consists of beverages that are not included in the More At Sea™ Beverage Package. Any guests with More At Sea™ will receive $15 off the retail value of drinks in the Connoisseur Collection. I am sure that everything I usually drink will now be in the Connoisseur Collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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