Avoid the Constellation on board health clinic if you can!

[i-m-ed]

I never made any remarks about anyone's grammar. I wouldn't do that. I'm aware that electricity forms electromagnetic fields however usually normal building materials solve the problem..I'm a Real Estate developer. What I said was I never heard of an electrical panel causing a problem. I was talking about high level situations where there are usually warnings for people with pacemakers. I've never heard of anyone having a problem with a ship's cabin or hotel room. Commercial developments usually insulate properly for these kinds of situations. I'm assuming you know this because you are a good engineer.

 

Ma Bell, I assumed from the following, "I never heard of an electrical panel bothering a pacemaker. It's usually magnetics that cause the problem..." that you were unaware of the correlation between electricity and magnetic fields. As a real estate developer I'm sure you realize that every city, state, and community has their own minimal applicible codes for shielding from EMF's, now I have no idea about what juristiction cruise ships would fall under but I am certain the ship is built to some minimum standard. I too would find it hard to believe, if from nothing more than a liability standpoint, that the panel would put out enough EMF's to adversely effect the pacemaker of a passenger. I would also assume that the heavy duty electrical stuff would be well away from any passenger area.

 

Also, I never meant to imply you questioned the OP's grammar, I just found it odd for so many to attack his/her character based upon poor grammar skills, but then again maybe I'm a little self concious because of my lack of abilities in that area. It seems like any time our paths cross there is controversy:D

[HP_Lovecraft]

I hate to bump this silly thread-

But it seems obvious. It was PTSongs first cruise, and he apperently got a sunburn and needed some treatment.

Then was surprised that medical treatment was kinda expensive on a cruise ship, and doesnt want to pay the bill.

 

So, he wants pity and "juices" up the story. Makes the bill outragous, and the treatment terrible. But doesnt have specific details because "it was his friend", and you can't question his experience because he has had 17 cruise ships.

 

This is the internet. People can say whatever they want. But 17 cruises, and you don't know that medical treatment on a cruise ship is expensive?

 

-Nick

[Char]

The thing that really got my curiosity going was there is one more response from this person to himself saying that Celebrity should be responsible because they could have caused him to miss his cruise. I can't quite figure this out. It just seemed to me he was looking for some kind of compensation for something. If I knew how to paste this last response I would. It looked like he was trying to pretend to be someone else and didn't realize his own name would come up on the response. Maybe you can transfer it here. The whole story just seems unbelievable to me...but maybe I'm wrong.

OOPS :eek:

 

I had copied that last one but forgot to post it. Here it is.

Re: Don't get sick on Constellation!

Author: ptsong

Date: 07-05-04 18:08

Explore, Dream, Discover...

 

I am sorry to hear that. Celebrity should be responsible had you missed your Cruise since they screwed up. I really think Celebrity services are over rated. I will be happy to used Princess from now onwards without any more curiousity or enviness with Celebrity cruises. Princess is still the best.

[Lou33]

I'm sure you realize that every city, state, and community has their own minimal applicible codes for shielding from EMF's, now I have no idea about what juristiction cruise ships would fall under but I am certain the ship is built to some minimum standard.

 

It is not practical to shield power lines. The insulation on power cables is to shield it from shorting to a ground, not to keep the power cable from radiating. There are no "codes" for shielding from EMF's. Electronic devices (radios, computers, etc) have FCC and CE requirements for electromagnetic compatibility, but this doesn't apply to power lines. I'm sure the ship meets many other agency requirements and codes but not for radiation from power lines.

[wv4891]

Well we are getting a little technical now, but I agree with the previous poster's statement. While I am not an electircal engineer by trade, nor a structural engineer, I am a Telecommunciations Engineer by trade. I have never seen any electrical cable in our industry shielded due to EMF, but then again our power is usually -48V DC. It has very thick insolation on it to protect from shorts to ground, a really serious problem if it occurs. :rolleyes: A great example of EMF is when you drive your car near or under one of those Power towers that are all over and hear the buzzing sound on your radio (yeah, I know most of you know that already). :eek: Enough of the techy stuff though, this a cruise board. Only 10 more months till our next cruise!!! :)

 

 

Bill

[Ma Bell]

Amen

[wv4891]

Thanks Ma :)

[BocaRoo]

This poster has been to our board before; about 1-1/2 to 2 yrears ago there was a non-sensical thread started by someone that used the exact same combination of typos, poor English and lack of logic. I can't even remember the topic of the complaint, but I'd bet dinner for two in the Olympic or Normandie Specialty Restaurants that this is the same jerk!

Sorry, I just had to vent!

:o Jill :o

 

[moya]

I am a RN and dont buy any of that story. The proposed treatment ect does not make sense to me.

 

I have had a personal experience with the medical facility and have found that the staff is very caring and up to date with standards.

 

They bill using Medicare guidelines and that bill can not be accurate.

[wv4891]

Jill, for that dinner I will show you how to get your signature picture to work while you are online. :D

 

but I'd bet dinner for two in the Olympic or Normandie Specialty Restaurants

:o Jill :o

 

 

 

[steetpm]

While on the Summit in April my wife broke her ankle in Aruba. I took her back to the ship for medical treatment. They were most helpful and caring. The doctor and nurses were professional and quite knowledgeable. One of the doctors on board was an orthopedic doctor. The only problem was getting her back on the boat. I had to teach them how to use a piece of equipment called the stairchair (I am a paramedic), this was not a big deal most of the paramedics that I work with on a daily basis have problems setting it up. The fees were upfront and reasonable. For example, the X-ray cost was 15 dollars.

[BocaRoo]

...I knew I'd get a response from someone if I made a bet! By the way, when's your next cruise and which itinerary?

 

I did have the animated gif in my signature working for about a New York minute...

 

 

Jill

[wv4891]

Jill,

 

 

Our next cruise is the same one you are on. We only do one or two cruises a year. Ok, this is for free. Go back to the website where you got your animated GIF from. Right click on the image and do '"save as picture". Save it to a file on your computer and then just copy and paste it to your signature (example <IMG SRC="c:\temp\island1.gif">). It will work when you are logged on and be a red X when you are not.

 

 

Bill

[i-m-ed]

Well we are getting a little technical now, but I agree with the previous poster's statement. While I am not an electircal engineer by trade, nor a structural engineer, I am a Telecommunciations Engineer by trade. I have never seen any electrical cable in our industry shielded due to EMF, but then again our power is usually -48V DC. It has very thick insolation on it to protect from shorts to ground, a really serious problem if it occurs. :rolleyes: A great example of EMF is when you drive your car near or under one of those Power towers that are all over and hear the buzzing sound on your radio (yeah, I know most of you know that already). :eek: Enough of the techy stuff though, this a cruise board. Only 10 more months till our next cruise!!! :)

 

 

Bill

 

I stand corrected, but I'm certain I've seen emf sheilded junction boxes out there. Maybe I had better stick to heat transfer. Oh and another good example of EMF would be to move a small transformer near your monitor and look for the jitters.

[cdbaum]

I am having trouble with the part about sitting in an air conditioned room and getting sunburned by the sun streaming in. Was there an open door to the outside with the air conditioning running? The crew is usually pretty good about keeping the doors to the deck areas closed. Was the sun coming in through a window? Since glass very effectively blocks most of the UV rays that cause a sunburn that would be a good trick.

 

If the sun angle was low enough to get in through the window and hit the people inside then it would have to be either early or late in the day and at those times the atmosphere reflects much of the UV.

 

Maybe the window was open, wait, the windows don't open in the card room on an M class ship. I guess I shouldn't be so critical. They were probably sitting in a balcony stateroom, with the AC on and the door open, for about 6 hours. And with the overhang on the balcony it was 4 hours either side of noon and the chair was within 2 feet of the door.

 

I guess it's plausible after all.

[wv4891]

I-m-ed,

 

My last techy thing here. You are very correct about shielding in panels. There are many different types of shielding to reduce the effects of EMF and also EMI, as it relates to cell phones, LAN, and WAN applications (I know there are many more applications, I am only stating one of most common ones). I was just talking about the power cable itself used in the Telecommunication's industry, not the commercial A.C. power needed in our power boards for our inverters. Now back to cruising and the prevention of sunburns. :D

 

 

 

I stand corrected, but I'm certain I've seen emf sheilded junction boxes out there. Maybe I had better stick to heat transfer. Oh and another good example of EMF would be to move a small transformer near your monitor and look for the jitters.

[ptsong]

Here it is again with someone's post #1 with a really weird and wild story. Maybe some of it is for real, but come on, $1500 in medical charges? And, don't most people on a cruise know to stay out of the sun before they get these kind of burns? Sounds pretty odd to me...

I really don't want to reply but your remark make me sound like a liar. I have kept the medical bills as proof of what I said. Celebrity will sue me for defamation if it's not true. You should think twice before you passed such remarks. Beside I did explained the sun burnt was caught inside an air condition room so we were not aware of the sun until its too late. Perhaps you don't know how to read.

[ptsong]

WE were playing cards in the upper deck restaurant in the afternoon as the table in the card room was too small. The sun was streaming in through the big glass ceiling to floor windows. The air condition make us less aware of the sun hitting the lower part of the body. Just learnt the hard way.

[ptsong]

I hate to bump this silly thread-

But it seems obvious. It was PTSongs first cruise, and he apperently got a sunburn and needed some treatment.

Then was surprised that medical treatment was kinda expensive on a cruise ship, and doesnt want to pay the bill.

 

So, he wants pity and "juices" up the story. Makes the bill outragous, and the treatment terrible. But doesnt have specific details because "it was his friend", and you can't question his experience because he has had 17 cruise ships.

 

This is the internet. People can say whatever they want. But 17 cruises, and you don't know that medical treatment on a cruise ship is expensive?

 

-Nick

Excuse me! If I don't speak the truth. Celebrity can sue me for slandering and there's exaggeration. Want to see those bills? Please mind your hurtful remarks. I send this message to warn others and not to slam the cruise line. It's a good intention please don't misconstrued the whole issue.I am not doing this for sympathy beside we paid all the bills in full. Grudgingly of course!

[ptsong]

I'm very skeptical about the truth of the OP. It looks like it was written by a child. (Note all the mistakes). I would definetly think that this was penned by a tr@!!.

Stretch

English is my second language beside 4 other langauges I know. I am sorry that I gave you the impression that I am a child or worst a troll. Perhaps you can write and express better in another language then me.

 

Excuse me please!!!

[ptsong]

OOPS :eek:

 

I had copied that last one but forgot to post it. Here it is.

Re: Don't get sick on Constellation!

Author: ptsong

Date: 07-05-04 18:08

Explore, Dream, Discover...

 

I am sorry to hear that. Celebrity should be responsible had you missed your Cruise since they screwed up. I really think Celebrity services are over rated. I will be happy to used Princess from now onwards without any more curiousity or enviness with Celebrity cruises. Princess is still the best.

Ma belled

I was replying to someone who nearly missed a cruise due to Celebrity mixed up with their bookings. You are wrong and please do not accused me of posting another reply for compensation. It's a totally different issue. You are mistaken and perhaps as mixed up as Celebrity. Please checked the original post I was replying too and stop accusing others. It can land you in court for slandering. Mind your message please.

[waltw]

One thing worth noting and I don't think has been mentioned in this thread is that the doctors on cruise ships are independent contractors who establish their own set of charges. Don't complain to X about a doctor's billand if you don't get a bill, take what you just saved and play a hand of black jack because this has to be your lucky day!

[SisZ]

Wait a minute...

 

The guy knows enough to stay away from metal detectors, but not enough to apply sunscreen?

 

The first indication given was that the sunburn occurred while on deck. The second said he was inside an air conditioned room.

 

Did anyone get the number of the turnip truck we fell off of??

[brigittetom]

Walt, I got deathly ill on a cruise years ago. The Dr. said it was food poisening. Since I hadn't eaten anything on shore I decided not to pay the bill since obviously it came from the ship. Years later I discovered that I'm allergic to escargot. Who knew. I did feel bad for not having paid the bill. :rolleyes:

[Merrilymeggily]

Walt, I got deathly ill on a cruise years ago. The Dr. said it was food poisening. Since I hadn't eaten anything on shore I decided not to pay the bill since obviously it came from the ship. Years later I discovered that I'm allergic to escargot. Who knew. I did feel bad for not having paid the bill. :rolleyes:

 

Wow, allergic to escargot! I recently -- on my last Crentury cruise in July -- found out that I'm allergic to caviar! I have had it many times and only once had a mild reaction to it -- so mild that I only remembered it after I had a horrifying reaction this last time. My one cruise tradition is that, no matter who I'm traveling with, I find myself some quiet alone time very late at night on the last night and enjoy a glass of champagne and some caviar all by myself. This last cruise -- my third -- I did just that and within moments of eating the caviar, I thought I was going to die. Swollen face, one eye blood-red and the other one swollen almost closed. When I realized that my throat was closing up, I went to find help and ran into my traveling companion, who hurried me to the doc's office. It was closed, but there was an emergency number. Being an idiot, I took a Valium and refused to let him call the number. I was very lucky; my condition got no worse and had cleared up in less than an hour. What a fool; I might have died. Since then I've gotten an Epi-pen and carry it with me always. As much as I love caviar, I'll refrain from now on. But I'm wondeirng, BrigitteTom, if you've been tested for allergies and what you found out about your reaction to escargot.