Anyone Recently back w/under 21 yrs old?

[catlove44]

I'm just off Infinity to Alaska 9/3 and we had a 16 year old boy at our dinner table and the somalier served him wine with his parents every night. Never a question was asked. In bar areas where we would meet for pre-dinner cocktails, his father would order two cocktails and the young man would consume one and his father another. They also did this in casual dining and around the pool.

You can also send yourself Bon Voyage gifts of alcohol to your stateroom through Celebrity web site and make her drinks in the room.

We even carried vodka onto the ship on port days and the x-ray machine didn't find anything. I think you can relax and have a great time, please tell her she will really enjoy her cruise.:)

[drfun48]

Who is to say which way is proper and which way is not? Everyone has their own morals and their own bottom line and far be it from me to inflict my morals on you or anyone else. So please don't preach your moralistic view to me or anybody else.

 

It is beyond belief that you consider of no consequence whether someone is of age to die for their country yet not able to drink if they so desire!!

Again you misinterpret.It is not a matter of "inflicting" my morals on anyone. It is simply a call to follow the rule of law as it now applies.Rules are needed for society to function in an orderly manner,but they are always evolving,sonetimes for the better,sometimes not.It is in the free and open discussion of these matters,that we hope to progress as a better society. A society devoid of a moral compass is doomed to destuction.

Also ,we share something in commen.It is beyond belief that you link one serving in the military,a most noble calling, with the rightof another to drink at eighteen.Apples and oranges.It's as though you were a scale balancer...if you do something right,it entitles you,or another, to do something wrong.

I've never heard of a person in military uniforn being denied bar service however.If that exception be need made,I would have no problem with that,as long as you agree that non military personel follow Celebrity's right to determine whom they can serve.

[crazybus]

Catlove44: Thank you!! You are actually the only one the truly asnwered my question.

 

Pecoraro: Here, Here!!!! I applaud you, it is true that you can die for your country but whatever you do don't take a drink!!!

 

All I did was ask a simple question. I didn't realize that there were so many perfect people out there!!! Bravo!!!! To have such darling children that never drank underage!!! First of all, when we leave port and are in international waters, there is no legal age for drinking so it is wrong that you say she is underage. No, I don't serve her alchohol at home nor would I buy it for her. But like I said once we are out to sea she is 100% legal age. It is a rule on Celebrity not a law. If she can't have a cocktail on board, so be it. There are many people that have drinking problems and they are not all under 21. You should be taught to drink responsibly. Thank goodness I do have a responsible daughter!

[catlove44]

You are welcome Crazybus. I learned so much from these boards I and am happy to share the facts to help other cruisers out without judgement.:)

[bplazo]

That is quite a statistic that 50% of married people cheat on their partner. Now I know why my husband is gone for days at a time!

 

My daughter will be 18 on our next cruise and was a little disappointed about the drinking age. She said is wasnt about the drinking (because she SAYS she doesnt drink) but it was about being "allowed to drink". I like the new rule because I think 18 is too young to drink anyway.

[drfun48]

Catlove44: Thank you!! You are actually the only one the truly asnwered It is a rule on Celebrity not a law.

Many ,including myself told you that you could circumvent the policy if you chose to.

You finally admit at least that it is a rule on Celebrity. Now try this on.You have rules in your household.Your 6 year old must be in bed by 9pm. Your 15 year old must be in by midnight,and there is to be no foul language at home.

Your toddler stays up until 11. Your 15 year old staggers in at 3am, and your husband spews obsceneties like a drunkin sailor. They clearly have not broken the law...just the family's rules.

You freely chose to sail with Celebrity but don't want to follow their rules. Rules are for the other passengers.

[Tuna]

No need to be condescending. The OP is just responding to others' responses that stated that a 19 yr old drinking on the ship was illegal. And this is an discussion board - the perfect place to voice one's opinion on whether we agree with the rules or not. But apparently not without being judged and villified.

[dkjretired]

I will not make any judgements but will simply add to drfun's comment. It is a rule of Celebrity which at sea has the force of law. The Captain is pretty much a god on the ship The passenger signs a contract to abide by the rules. That I believe is the true answer to the question.....

[SusieV]

Personally, I think it's odd that Celebrity arbitrarily chose to use the laws in the United States as a basis for their drinking laws, given that it's flagged under a foreign country.

 

I must admit, my sympathies are with the 18-20 year olds who would not be allowed a drink. In Ontario, the drinking age is 19. I remember being quite peeved when I went to the USA for a trip and was not allowed a glass of wine with my dinner when I had been drinking legally in my own country for over a year!

 

I think everyone is really going overboard by automatically assuming that everyone underage who drinks is going to become a sloppy drunk or behave outrageously. I'm 24 and I've been drunk once in my life, but I enjoy wine with dinner or the occasional mixed drink.

 

The kids you all are worried about are going to drink anyway. Forget the rules for a second- if someone really wants alcohol, they are going to get it. The only people actually following the rules are probably the ones responsible enough to drink appropriately!

 

As for the poster who said that if they raise their kids "properly" they won't drink- give me a break. I'm sorry, but you probably have your head in the sand. If you're intolerant of a certain behaviour, your kids probably just don't tell you things. EVERYONE drinks underage. I don't know a single person who never took a drink before their 19th birthday, and it's not like I was friends with a bunch of losers.

[drfun48]

No need to be condescending. The OP is just responding to others' responses that stated that a 19 yr old drinking on the ship was illegal. And this is an discussion board - the perfect place to voice one's opinion on whether we agree with the rules or not. But apparently not without being judged and villified.

Tuna,in an earlier post you were deciding what was "called for" and what was not,now you are stating that this is a place to voice one's opinion whether we agree or not.Which is it?

I did not mean to be condescending nor judjemental and certainly did not villify the OP as you might opine,but simply tried to point out thar rules,as pertained the family,or the ship can be as important as laws. I don't believe either of you understand that.

dkjretired hit the nail on the head as he rightly stated that the rule has the force of law on the sea .The passenger has agreed,under contract. to abide by those rules and not selectively. You may not like the rules.You could discuss the rules here but you are expected to abide by them.

[dkjretired]

Personally, I think it's odd that Celebrity arbitrarily chose to use the laws in the United States as a basis for their drinking laws, given that it's flagged under a foreign country.

 

Susie:

 

I think that Celebrity probably follows the US laws so that in a potential lawsuit it will look better to a jury that they follow the same laws as most their clients. Imagine the easy target a lawyer would have for some kid falling overboard at age 19 and having been allowed to drink on a ship. He would most certainly point out that if on land this kid would not drink but Celebrity and the parent company willingly allowed him to drink...

[HurricaneSally]

I guess my only problem with this whole topic, is the ability for parents to allow their children to totally disregard the rules. Parents are supposed to be the example of rule conduct. I would never condone my kids to break the rules.

 

If they break the rules, so be it, but they will never hear that I think it's okay to do so. Enough said. I don't make the laws or the rules, but I encourage my kids to follow them and accept that fact that they will have to face me, if they choose not to.

 

Does that make sense?

[junglejane]

I was just on a family reunion cruise on the Infinity with several college age nieces and nephews. My brother and sister-in-law specifically asked the sommelier whether their 20 year old daughter could have wine. He told them that she couldn't order it herself but that there was no problem with them ordering it for her. In fact, she was served wine numerous times at dinner and her parents bought her cocktails in the bars. This was done very openly. It seemed to be more of an issue of whose Seapass was charged, not who consumed it.

[brigittetom]

I was just on a family reunion cruise on the Infinity with several college age nieces and nephews. My brother and sister-in-law specifically asked the sommelier whether their 20 year old daughter could have wine. He told them that she couldn't order it herself but that there was no problem with them ordering it for her. In fact, she was served wine numerous times at dinner and her parents bought her cocktails in the bars. This was done very openly. It seemed to be more of an issue of whose Seapass was charged, not who consumed it.

 

I truly hope this works for Celebrity because legally they didn't sell alcohol to a minor, they sold it to the parents so if something unfortunate were to happen, the blame should go to the parents.

 

I think there is something else to consider. There are some young adults who are very responsible and can be trusted to have a "cocktail" while there are others, given the opportunity, don't know how or don't care to drink responsibly. We've seen way too much of this on our cruises. Perfect example, until you take a spring break cruise and observed what actually goes on you may want to reserve judgement on the drinking age on board. Obviously there are adults who don't drink responsibly but in our experience that has happened only a very few times compared to young people exploring their freedom.

[HurricaneSally]

I have never seen drunk adults cause the same chaos that was caused by those kids on the Crown Princess a few weeks ago. Did anybody else see the video? That was surely drunk kids gone wild.

[pbrady]

I understabd that the age for the casino and the disco are still 18, and the drinking age is 21. Do they have a different card for 17 and under, 18 to 20 year olds and then 21 & over or are there only 2 cards?

We are taking my 2 daughters next March and one will be 20 and one 17. Neither care to drink so that is not the problem. We have taken the 20 yr old to a couple casinos in the area to play the 2 cent slots. The 17 year old turns 18 the second day of the cruise. I understand though that they base the person's age on the day the cruise starts - any comments or ideas?? She'd like to be able to try the 2 cent slots if they have them.

[brigittetom]

HurricaneSally, I have no idea what you are talking about but I'm guessing it wasn't pretty. We have seen teens out and about drinking late at night and I never could determine if it was just teens allowed by their parents to drink to the max because supposedly nothing could happen to them on a ship or if it was a matter of parent's just not caring what their kid did and how it would affect other passengers. I do remember one particular group where I just assumed these kids went wild because they could drink to their hearts content and not worry about getting home. Not a pretty site and it should have been stopped by ships crew but it wasn't.

 

pbrady, I have seen a few penny slots on board but never a 2 cent slot. I'm sorry but I didn't pay attention to where you are cruising next but if your 18 yo can't play in the casino on board, there are, in the caribbean quite a few casinos that have the penny machines. I usually duck in there for a few minutes on the way back to the ship. The only time I've payed attention on board to younger people in the casino was when we made the mistake of booking a spring break cruise on the Zenith as a b/b from the Radiance. The Casino was filled with young people and I never noticed anyone being checked for an id. I know we are not supposed to break the rules ever but I honestly don't think your 18yo will be noticed walking in and playing the slots. She will afterall be 18. :)