Carnival Sunshine.. New Ship or Lipstick on a Pig?

Just curious people's opinion on the "new" Carnival Sunshine. I know its really just the Destiny, and its had issues in the past with propulsion.

Is Carnival truely gutting the ship where it will be almost like a new ship? Or is it just a dry dock with some new curtains and a coat of paint?

Some of the European trips look cool next year, but i still keep thinking its just the Destiny. :confused:

Going to be more than curtains and paint, but in reality, I think it is going to be expensive lipstick.

If Carnival is your bag, then it should be fine. If you get tired of Carnival, get out and compare prices. I hear Sunshine is really cheap for those European cruises.. and if you want to see Europe.. this might be your best chance.

I dont have her booked yet.. sort of booked up until early 2014.. and looking already for deals then... but Im sure I will do her since I can drive to NOLA.

Its like Conquest.. most of the changes are new bars.. but a few things like the hamburgers and Mexican .. so new food choices to mix it up a little. Im looking forward to seeing the changes. Of course I got a huge deal on conquest .. so the changes are icing on the cake with the good price.

Personally, I think it will be lipstick on a pig. I just don't see how adding more cabins and reducing public space to a ship that's already overcrowded to begin with is going to improve the cruise experience.

Having sailed her as the Destiny feeling I was in a Sardine can, adding more cabins and cutting public space will have me extremely far from ever sailing her.

Was a bit insulted when they initially called her NEW before finally dropping that.

I agree with Pcheng. I think it's lipstick on even more of a pig. I'd be impressed if they were stretching it out to Conquest size, but I don't see how Carnival can claim putting another few hundred people on this ship, bringing it up to Conquest load (or more) can be a positive thing.

Well, obviously it is dressing up a older ship.. but that being said, if you want to see Europe.. you are there to see Europe and the ship wouldnt matter that much to me.

Well, obviously it is dressing up a older ship.. but that being said, if you want to see Europe.. you are there to see Europe and the ship wouldnt matter that much to me.

I would have to agree with ya on this point for sure!

I would have to agree with ya on this point for sure!

Only if everything you wanted to see was a hour from shore. Rail is actually the best way to see Europe.

Only if everything you wanted to see was a hour from shore. Rail is actually the best way to see Europe.

if that were completely true.. and people didnt take europe cruises to see europe .. they would just cruise from their home port.

You go to europe .. and try to see as much as you can in the time allowed.. and get a little bit of several ports.

It's LIPSTICK ON A PIG!!!

Just got off destiny and they are remodeling cabins as we were sailing?!?

Deck 6 was done and they were doing the aft port corner of deck 7.

I had the aftcabin 7327 I was shocked when they started tearing the rooms apart imagine being in the cabin next to one they are remodeling.

This is my cabin

THIS is what finished deck looks like

This is work in progress

This is the aft wrap I came back to get a pic of the progress on the last day but a worker was sleeping in cabin

It's a new ship in a recycled hull. I will be posting lots of pictures once the new flagship is launched.

if that were completely true.. and people didnt take europe cruises to see europe .. they would just cruise from their home port.

 

You go to europe .. and try to see as much as you can in the time allowed.. and get a little bit of several ports.

Yep. Have done one Europe cruise...planning another. It would be many cruises before I will have seen everything an hour from shore. With the dollar being so poor...cruising is the way to go and the Sunshine itineraries look good and have good prices for Europe! I was on RCCL for my med cruise and hardly remember the ship at all!!

Having sailed her as the Destiny feeling I was in a Sardine can, adding more cabins and cutting public space will have me extremely far from ever sailing her.

 

Was a bit insulted when they initially called her NEW before finally dropping that.

Couldn't say it better.

I dont understand calling this a flagship though.

I dont understand calling this a flagship though.

Is it going to be the "flagship"??? :confused:

I'm taking a "wait and see" attitude with this ship (wouldn't be the first time that a ship is condemned by the skeptics), but to name a 16 year old refurbished ship the "flagship" of the Carnival fleet sounds like an ill-conceived idea.

Lipstick on a pig is too good for this piece of garbage. The only ones that believe this ship will be brilliant is John Heald and his cult of followers.

I dont understand calling this a flagship though.

why bring that up.. John has said it is NOT a flagship.

Only Sargent Shultz posts it is.. is this a personal thing between you.. because no one else posted this on this thread and only Sargent has said it was.

Any ship I am on is a flagship and that's a fact, jack! :p

if that were completely true.. and people didnt take europe cruises to see europe .. they would just cruise from their home port.

 

You go to europe .. and try to see as much as you can in the time allowed.. and get a little bit of several ports.

Having cruised extensively, and toured Europe, I can assure you a cruise is NOT the way to see Europe.

It's LIPSTICK ON A PIG!!!

 

 

Just got off destiny and they are remodeling cabins as we were sailing?!?

 

Deck 6 was done and they were doing the aft port corner of deck 7.

 

I had the aftcabin 7327 I was shocked when they started tearing the rooms apart imagine being in the cabin next to one they are remodeling.

 

This is my cabin

 

THIS is what finished deck looks like

 

This is work in progress

 

This is the aft wrap I came back to get a pic of the progress on the last day but a worker was sleeping in cabin

Any idea if 7292 or 7295 were done?

Having cruised extensively, and toured Europe, I can assure you a cruise is NOT the way to see Europe.

I never said it was the BEST way... it is one way to see some of Europe.

Between this and stu trying to stir the waters.. lol. bored much?

Having lived in Europe and touring Europe extensively, I prefer cruising Europe. You can always do a land cruise before or after, if desired, or even jump ship and rejoin later (or not).

I never said it was the BEST way... it is one way to see some of Europe.

 

Between this and stu trying to stir the waters.. lol. bored much?

Not sure why you wold want to argue an opinion, unless you was trying to boost post count. Bored much?