michael mac Posted April 24, 2010 #1 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Hi all Onboard the QV it the moment, the new smoking policy means that you can only smoke in you cabin or in the Churchill Cigar lounge. I'm not fussed about smoking in the cabin and will only have the odd one there, I would normaly go out on the balcony. At times last night Churchill's had roughley 20 people in it, all smoking, it wasn't pleasent, but the conversation is great, theres only 11 seats and was very stuffy and when you came out your clothes reeked of smoke, don't think the ciger smokers were very happy. To give the smoker's and non smoker's an idea what it's like at busy times in Churchills, imagine having 20 smoker's in an inside cabin all at the same time. Michael Mac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andiamo Posted April 24, 2010 #2 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Hi all Onboard the QV it the moment, the new smoking policy means that you can only smoke in you cabin or in the Churchill Cigar lounge. I'm not fussed about smoking in the cabin and will only have the odd one there, I would normaly go out on the balcony. At times last night Churchill's had roughley 20 people in it, all smoking, it wasn't pleasent, but the conversation is great, theres only 11 seats and was very stuffy and when you came out your clothes reeked of smoke, don't think the ciger smokers were very happy. To give the smoker's and non smoker's an idea what it's like at busy times in Churchills, imagine having 20 smoker's in an inside cabin all at the same time. Michael Mac Thanks for the report Michael Mac. I hope Cunard figures out this new ruling is far from equitable. Enjoy your voyage. Jeanne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetpea711423 Posted April 24, 2010 #3 Share Posted April 24, 2010 Hopefully Cunard will make some additional accommodation for smokers. Relaxing with a smoke is a major source of enjoyment for many of their passengers. They should take that into account, and not simply the desires of the nonsmokers. While we could of course do this in our cabin (and as we plan to be in a Queens Grill cabin it would not be for lack of space), it is not the same experience as being out and about in the ship. This kind of restriction leads us to rethink booking on Cunard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisemusic Posted April 25, 2010 #4 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Personally I would prefer smoking to be allowed in the Casino than on the Balconies. We had a chain smoker in the cabin next to us on the 2009 WC and it made sitting out on our balcony impossible at times.[hubby has asthma and I dislike the smell of ciggies.] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipahain Posted April 25, 2010 #5 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Well said ............smoke far too easily invades and wrecks use of a balcony for the neighbour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacia Posted April 25, 2010 #6 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Michael Mac, thanks for taking the time to post. Those Cunarder's who smoke cigarettes have been worried (see previous posts) about the effect the new restrictive bans would have on Churchill's Lounge. Can not Cunard find a way to accommodate passengers who smoke with separate but equal facilities? Those who previously enjoyed a cigar or pipe or being squeezed out. Not fair, and not equitable. What's next? For health reasons, those passengers who are overweight are served the Canyon Ranch meals only? Passengers will not be allowed to use salt unless they have been cleared by ships doctors? Having read many complains about the smell of cigarette smoke, I respectfully summit that those who drence themselves in perfume/after shave/cologne should be more mindful of the effect they have on others. Salacia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacia Posted April 25, 2010 #7 Share Posted April 25, 2010 phllipan, Truth be told, I have smoked cigarettes on my balcony. But when I heard or sensed the passenger/s on either side of my balcony, I put out my cigarette. And I must say that more than once the scent from the adjoining balconies (be it onions, garlic, Scotch, or cologne) made me sick. Loud conversation from adjoining balconies bothered me. But I figured, what the heck, it's a big ship. Live and let live. So I said nothing, made no complaints. I just went to another area of the ship where I felt comfortable. Perhapse I was wrong in not complaining? Salacia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipahain Posted April 25, 2010 #8 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Salacia I would suggest that if you put out your cigarette if you sensed adjoining balcony occupants had problems ...........you are one of very few considerate smokers who would do so We have been forced to abandon the enjoyment of our balcony on many occasions and on one cruise both our balcony and 4 more downwind were totally unusable for the entire 21 days because just one couple next door smoked both a pipe and cigars on their balcony almost non stop ..........things were so bad even the poor cabin steward did not want to enter their stateroom Since i dont use perfume/after shave ,have BO or Halitosis , chew garlic etc i think i can safely say i do not waft any odours to offend /affect other guests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacia Posted April 25, 2010 #9 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Hey Phillipahian, Seems like we'd get along just fine if we found ourselves on adjoinging balconies. After all, we're all on the same boat together, just takes a little consideration. True confession: I do so love the scent of sun tan oil...can't use it myself because I just fry. Point is, there are things that bothers us, and things that don't. Some we love,and some we don't. That's why we sail on the QM2; there is room for all of us. Hopefully. Regards, Salacia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balf Posted April 25, 2010 #10 Share Posted April 25, 2010 Hi all when you came out your clothes reeked of smoke, Michael Mac This is the first time I have heard a smoker comment on that!!! David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOldBear Posted April 25, 2010 #11 Share Posted April 25, 2010 This is the first time I have heard a smoker comment on that!!! David. Back when the Long Island Railroad [the world's largest toy rain set] had smoking cars [7 smoking of 10 cars as typical], I remember one occasion where a passenger staggered out of a smoking car complaining "I can't breathe in there" Within a couple of minutes, he automatically fumbled out and attempted to light a cigarette. The non smoking passengers were not amused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadScientist_01 Posted April 27, 2010 #12 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Unfortunately for those who do not smoke and find themselves with a balcony next to someone who does, I would imagine that, from now on, they will get short shrift from many people should they voice their objections to their smoking there - it will almost literally be the last legal place on the ship where they can enjoy a cigarette, and so some will vehemently defend their right to do so (one of them might be me if these patches don't work!) With regards to those who constantly complain about smoking, it often comes across as if gangs of smokers are roaming around pinning down helpless non-smokers and blowing smoke in their face! I am, and I believe the majority of smokers are, extremely considerate when it comes to smoking - I only ever use designated areas to smoke in, avoid smoking before dinner so that the smell of it isn't on my clothes at dinner etc. I think I'm going to start calling non-smokers on many of the things that they do which annoy me and endanger my health! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avalon1025 Posted April 27, 2010 #13 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Less smoking onboard means Cunard rises in my set of preferred cruise lines. I sail 6-8 times a year so Cunard could possibly get an incremental trip or two out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oarsman55 Posted April 27, 2010 #14 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Less smoking onboard means Cunard rises in my set of preferred cruise lines. I sail 6-8 times a year so Cunard could possibly get an incremental trip or two out of me. Right, so it's gone from "will have me sailing Cunard more often" to "could possibly get an incremental trip or two out of me." Quod erat demonstrandum. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avalon1025 Posted April 27, 2010 #15 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I think 1 to 2 additonal trips per year is significant to Cunard, how much do you sail? Kudos to Cunard for limiting smoking on board! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetpea711423 Posted April 28, 2010 #16 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I think 1 to 2 additonal trips per year is significant to Cunard, how much do you sail? Kudos to Cunard for limiting smoking on board! Well, a more restrictive smoking policy on Cunard means fewer sailings for me (in Queens Grill, in case Cunard is attentive to that kind of thing). Instead, I will be going on Silversea which has a more liberal, and to me, more reasonable, smoking policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasailors Posted April 28, 2010 #17 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Well, a more restrictive smoking policy on Cunard means fewer sailings for me (in Queens Grill, in case Cunard is attentive to that kind of thing). Instead, I will be going on Silversea which has a more liberal, and to me, more reasonable, smoking policy. Us too, we've left Cunard because of this new smoking policy, that's 4 cruises a year it's cost them. Princess have more indoor smoking areas. Interesting link about the cost of smoking bans to cruise lines http://www.gadling.com/2007/09/07/smoking-bans-on-cruise-ships-cost-millions-in-cancellations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwestie Posted April 28, 2010 #18 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I think it will even out in time, Cunard may lose some smokers, and gain some non-smokers. rather like places here, However a seperate smoking lounge is a good ldea, im sure they will work on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinCornell Posted April 28, 2010 #19 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Us too, we've left Cunard because of this new smoking policy, that's 4 cruises a year it's cost them.Princess have more indoor smoking areas. Interesting link about the cost of smoking bans to cruise lines http://www.gadling.com/2007/09/07/smoking-bans-on-cruise-ships-cost-millions-in-cancellations/ That's interesting. It's my 40th next year and I was thinking of a Q-Grade Cabin on the Vic or QE next year (probably the Norway cruise as its closest to my June Birthday). Are Silversea and Princess comparable to the Queens Grill ? If they are - will change plans and look at them instead... Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetpea711423 Posted April 28, 2010 #20 Share Posted April 28, 2010 That's interesting. It's my 40th next year and I was thinking of a Q-Grade Cabin on the Vic or QE next year (probably the Norway cruise as its closest to my June Birthday). Are Silversea and Princess comparable to the Queens Grill ? If they are - will change plans and look at them instead... Cheers Silversea is certainly comparable, if not a bit better, than Q-Grade on Cunard. Price is comparable but is all inclusive (meaning including all alcohol and tips). Food is excellent, with a liberal policy of ordering off-menu. Cabins are large with sitting area and balcony. A difference is that the ships are quite a bit smaller than Cunard ships, which means there are fewer activities and smaller and less entertainment. If that kind of thing is important to you then this would not be a good fit. I suggest taking a look at their website. They also have their smoking policy on the site. Princess is not comparable to Q-Grade. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transatlantic fan Posted April 28, 2010 #21 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I think it will even out in time, Cunard may lose some smokers, and gain some non-smokers. rather like places here, However a seperate smoking lounge is a good ldea, im sure they will work on it They already have a separate smoking lounge, it’s called Churchill’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetpea711423 Posted April 28, 2010 #22 Share Posted April 28, 2010 They already have a separate smoking lounge, it’s called Churchill’s Of course the issue is whether Churchill's has sufficient capacity given the change in smoking policy, not whether there in fact currently exists a smoking lounge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasailors Posted April 28, 2010 #23 Share Posted April 28, 2010 They already have a separate smoking lounge, it’s called Churchill’s Yes, they do already have a smoking lounge, Churchills has a whopping 11 seats, to seat around 4-500 smoking passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSt Posted April 28, 2010 #24 Share Posted April 28, 2010 Do they not also have their rooms plus parts of the open decks? In the UK effectively you can only smoke in the open (and your home), so giving a warm room is more than smokers get in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwestie Posted April 28, 2010 #25 Share Posted April 28, 2010 They already have a separate smoking lounge, it’s called Churchill’s Yes I know, but the smokers want another one? as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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