Oasis of the Seas vs Carnival Dream *pic*

[Izzziee]

Another picture of the Dream and Oasis together :)

[Cruise a holic]

Something tells me the revenues from the bars and casino may be a little lower than average.

 

Though.. things are not always what they seem. Take Utah for example: LINK

 

:eek:

 

Tom

 

I may be in the minority but consider the venues on the Oasis: Aquacade water show, Broadway show Hairspray, Ice Capade show -like madison square garden, (and ice skating for guests), Comedy Club, Grand Production Shows, Activities include: Zip line, Rock Climbing wall, Kids wave pool and water park. Flow rider-surfing pool. Rock climbing walls, zip line, Wonderful teen club and camp for younger kids. Pictures by facial recognition available on line to view and purchase. Starbucks. A Merry go round- full size , Johnny Rockets, plus so many multiple dining and shopping venues, too numerous to list. A GPS system by each elevator making it easy to find your way around the ship. All other activities like most ships and then some.

 

You truly have to experience it in order to realize how spectacular it is. The same with the Allure of the Seas. The width of the ships are double the size of the competition. It isn't about the length. The ship is open to the sky in most of the middle so your cabin can face the sea, boardwalk area or my favorite, central park. So many options that is what makes it so special. As large as it is, with the exception of the pool area on sea days, never crowded they have mastered excellent crowd control.

[Cruising89143]

W - O - W !!!

 

They must have paid a pretty penny for that sailing, for RCI to forgo that backbone revenue!!

 

Tom

 

That had to cost CFA a bundle.

 

I read that they will not be showing Blue Planet on the three night sailing. That is probably one of my all time favorite shows on a ship along with the Aqua Theater show. Nothing like sitting out under the stars in evening watching a show. Sometimes you feel a little sway back and forth of the ship and a nice breeze.

[relic937]

It's as simple as Walmart versus Sak's fifth Ave. Some like Wally World and others like first class . It just depends on your comfort zone .:D

[halos]

What the whole thing boils down to is you can't knock it until you've tried it. I never thought I would enjoy a huge ship, but I would not say that I'd never give it a shot. I used to think I'd hate NCL...I was surprised to love it. A closed mind does no one any good.

[manmtnmike]

I may be in the minority but consider the venues on the Oasis: Aquacade water show, Broadway show Hairspray, Ice Capade show -like madison square garden, (and ice skating for guests), Comedy Club, Grand Production Shows, Activities include: Zip line, Rock Climbing wall, Kids wave pool and water park. Flow rider-surfing pool. Rock climbing walls, zip line, Wonderful teen club and camp for younger kids. Pictures by facial recognition available on line to view and purchase. Starbucks. A Merry go round- full size , Johnny Rockets, plus so many multiple dining and shopping venues, too numerous to list. A GPS system by each elevator making it easy to find your way around the ship. All other activities like most ships and then some.

 

You truly have to experience it in order to realize how spectacular it is. The same with the Allure of the Seas. The width of the ships are double the size of the competition. It isn't about the length. The ship is open to the sky in most of the middle so your cabin can face the sea, boardwalk area or my favorite, central park. So many options that is what makes it so special. As large as it is, with the exception of the pool area on sea days, never crowded they have mastered excellent crowd control.

 

Great synopsis!:)

Instead of mass production of previous design, with the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it model", RCCL has pushed the walls of ingenuity and efficiency,-with the Oasis class.

If you have a engineering-type mind-set, you'll be "delighted discovering the details of the deep design differences:p"

 

Mike

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

That had to cost CFA a bundle.

 

I read that they will not be showing Blue Planet on the three night sailing. That is probably one of my all time favorite shows on a ship along with the Aqua Theater show. Nothing like sitting out under the stars in evening watching a show. Sometimes you feel a little sway back and forth of the ship and a nice breeze.

 

Yep - I read that as well. I only saw Chicago as an option for pre-booking. From what I understand they usually have Chicago early in the week, with Blue Planet towards the end. I suppose that Chick-fil-A was the force which influenced the change. I don't know what Blue Planet is about, but I would imagine that it would be more in line with their tastes than Chicago...

 

I'd imagine that it's going to be like night and day for the crew that week. The first four days without the casino and bar, followed by a weekend sailing and all the associated people trying to make the most of that short time!

 

Tom

[Cruising89143]

Yep - I read that as well. I only saw Chicago as an option for pre-booking. From what I understand they usually have Chicago early in the week, with Blue Planet towards the end. I suppose that Chick-fil-A was the force which influenced the change. I don't know what Blue Planet is about, but I would imagine that it would be more in line with their tastes than Chicago...

 

I'd imagine that it's going to be like night and day for the crew that week. The first four days without the casino and bar, followed by a weekend sailing and all the associated people trying to make the most of that short time!

 

Tom

 

Correct about Chicago. Adult themed and a little adult language which would not set well with the CFA group. The casino will be hopping on your sailing.

[gardeningmama]

Nothing to do with ship size, and everything to do with what the ship had to offer (we cruise more for the ship than the ports - and would love a 7 day cruise to nowhere).

 

Blue Man Group, Legends in Concert, Slam Allen (Blues/Jazz), Murder Mystery Lunch, Cirque Dreams Dinner Show, Japanese Steakhouse, Brazilian Steakhouse, Le Bistro (French), Cagney's (Steakhouse!), 24/7 O'Sheehan's Neighborhood Bar and Grill, SIX bowling lanes --- wait, wait --- just follow the below link for the best reasons to sail the Epic:

 

Review from a Carnival Milestone cruiser (not me)!!!

 

 

Tom

 

Wow, I followed the link and read as long as I could(on lunch hour)and what a great review. I'll pick this up again. Thanks for the heads up.

 

Sue

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

OH -- so as not to sound so lopsided in this conversation...

 

We have sailed on the Dream 3 times. Booked 3 different sailings before she was even in the water - thanks to some great PR work by Carnival's Brand Ambassador (John Heald). I had high hopes that it would be a ship where they broke the molds. Such was not the case.

 

Our favorite cabins are aft corners (preferably suites) - having sailed several times in 4228/4237 on Spirit class ships, and several more times in Cat 9 aft corner cabins on the Liberty, Freedom, Glory, Valor, and Destiny.

 

When Carnival discontinued the Spirit class (our favorite) and built several Conquest class ships I was dismayed that they opted to forgo suites on the aft corners. The rooms were smaller. The balconies, while still large, were not as grand, nor as private. Enter the Dream class... now those aft corners look down on the exterior promenade deck instead of down into the water. The balconies have shrunk to embarrassing proportions (from what they had been). The Dream class was just a modified Conquest class ship, right down to the double door to the hallway set-up for the deck 6 aft corner cabins. Yeah, a real grand remake... :rolleyes:

 

Spirit class corner balcony:

 

 

Dream corner balcony:

 

Can you tell why I am somewhat "down" on Carnival??

 

From THIS Travelocity page you can see a nice comparison of ship statistics. One to take note of there is the "Space Ratio". It gives a ballpark idea of how much space there is per person on the ship. The higher the number, the more spacious it may tend to feel.

 

You can see from this image I copied from that page that having a high space ratio has never been Carnival's strong suit. From a 34 on Fantasy class ships it jumps to the lines highest at 41 with the Spirit class ships, dropping again to 36 with the Conquest class, and then a bit more to 35 with the advent of the Dream class:

 

 

It would appear that Royal Caribbean seems to have, across the board, higher space ratios on their ships. Starting at 44 with the Voyager class, then 42 with the Radiance class, back to 44 with the Freedom class, and then down to 40 with the Oasis class ships:

 

 

Those numbers are based on double occupancy, so depending on how many cabins they end up putting four (or more) people in can impact the actual figures. Also, one must keep in mind that this one number is just that, a number. Considerations in design of the ship and the way people flow through it are equally, if not more important. I am not sure how the Oasis will "feel" in that regard, but I can say that I often feel jammed/crowded in parts of Carnival ships (the buffet areas and trying to get by all the photo op places on formal night come to mind).

 

Tom

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

Wow, I followed the link and read as long as I could(on lunch hour)and what a great review. I'll pick this up again. Thanks for the heads up.

 

Sue

 

After I found that thread and posted the link last night, I must admit I read several pages again - always entertaining!

 

Happy to say that we'll be sailing with Don on the Oasis. Since he talked us into the Epic, I thought I would encourage him to sail on the Oasis. It really did not take much encouragement - he had already heard several positive reports from people he works with (and whose opinions he values).

 

After I saw he booked the NCL Breakaway out of NYC to Bermuda for this fall, we jumped aboard as well. We don't feel we're stalking each other - we just know that the other is likely on to something, and we don't want to miss out! Additionally, it's nice sharing a few meals while cruising! You can meet some good friends here on CC !!!

 

Tom

[yknot13]

I'm sure the Oasis and Allure are wonderful ships with something for everyone but a ship that size doesn't even interest me. Too many people and too many lines. I will stick with Carnival.

 

Actualy no lines to speak of.

[S.S.Oceanlover]

Actualy no lines to speak of.

 

The line you quoted from Wrigley reminds me of a person who is served spinach for the first time and says "I don't like that" although they have never tried it.:)

 

Bill

[DarthGrady]

Interesting! Last weekend I was booking 6 additional cabins for our Oasis cruise (for our annual office cruise and our sons). Since there were no interiors for our sons and a couple of their friends near our mid-ship cabin the RCI represenitive was encouraging me to book fully forward to get them on the same deck. She repeatedly told me, after I said the very front is usually where you can feel motion the most, that she's never had anyone complain about movement on the Oasis/Allure (forward cabins) like they do on other ships. I understand that they're very large but did not want to be responsible for their discomfort if there are unusually high seas. Thus I ended up getting them all mid-ship in Central Park view cabins.

 

Tom

 

It wasn't dramatic or abnormal movement, but you certainly could feel it. They don't have the numb, disconnected feeling that many assume such a large ship would have.

[maplo]

I have been on both Oasis and Dream. Had fun on both and as you can see from my signature, I love both lines. But, Oasis was amazing! Gorgeous inside and out. I know there are alot of people on it but, it never felt crowded. It really is huge. We had a corner boardwalk balcony room aft. We had the view of the wake and I mean an entire view of the wake. We also had a view of the boardwalk and the aquatheater. We could sit on the balcony day and night with no wind. Very comfortable and could barely feel the ship move.

 

I know Dream is considered a big ship but it is more the size of Royal's Adventure class. My husband and I enjoyed both ships alot but of all the ships he and I have been on, the Oasis is by far our favorite. They are really organized too which made it not feel crowded. I even rode a merry go round. lol But, it is on the pricey side so we put our money to where we can go more often. Carnival has better rates and we have a blast no matter what line we go on. We love to cruise.

 

By the way, the picture is not photo shopped.

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

The line you quoted from Wrigley reminds me of a person who is served spinach for the first time and says "I don't like that" although they have never tried it.:)

 

Bill

 

It's indefensible logic, but to each his own I suppose.

 

... but I have been guilty of that as well (we all probably have - even if not related to cruising). I recall, early in our cruising career, feeling that Carnival was perfect and offered everything we needed - though I got past that! I also recall being on a couple of Carnival ships which had a Supper Club where I was heard to say "I'm not going to pay extra for food when it's already been paid for in the dining room where I like the food anyway". I also got past that! Actually now it is the rare occasion that we eat in the MDR, opting for specialty restaurants most evenings.

 

EDIT: Popeye is the only reason I ate spinach as a child. It was the only green vegetable I enjoyed! :D

 

Tom

[Cruising89143]

It's indefensible logic, but to each his own I suppose.

 

... but I have been guilty of that as well (we all probably have - even if not related to cruising). I recall, early in our cruising career, feeling that Carnival was perfect and offered everything we needed - though I got past that! I also recall being on a couple of Carnival ships which had a Supper Club where I was heard to say "I'm not going to pay extra for food when it's already been paid for in the dining room where I like the food anyway". I also got past that! Actually now it is the rare occasion that we eat in the MDR, opting for specialty restaurants most evenings.

 

EDIT: Popeye is the only reason I ate spinach as a child. It was the only green vegetable I enjoyed! :D

 

Tom

 

I once had tunnel vision as I like to call it. Sixteen straight cruises on Carnival. Stepped out to see what else was out there and boy was I surprised.

 

Have you seen this video? They show it on the Smithsonian Channel often. Probably the best series that I have seen on the ship.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyaJ2cUX6K0

[cruzkitty]

I have sailed on both Ships and really enjoyed both of them. I am sailing on Oasis again in September, and would sail the Dream again in a Heartbeat. They are both beauties in their own rite, both have uniqueness about them, and are a pleasure to sail. I consider myself lucky to have been on both of them. :p

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

I have sailed on both Ships and really enjoyed both of them. I am sailing on Oasis again in September, and would sail the Dream again in a Heartbeat. They are both beauties in their own rite, both have uniqueness about them, and are a pleasure to sail. I consider myself lucky to have been on both of them. :p

 

What office are you running for?

 

Just kidding. Good attitude!

 

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[Tom-n-Cheryl]

I once had tunnel vision as I like to call it. Sixteen straight cruises on Carnival. Stepped out to see what else was out there and boy was I surprised.

 

Have you seen this video? They show it on the Smithsonian Channel often. Probably the best series that I have seen on the ship.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyaJ2cUX6K0

 

I'll check that out when I get home. Thanks.

 

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[nbsjcruiser]

agree!

 

Don't knock it until you try it. You may like it. You'll never know unless you get outside the Carnival bubble.

[Cruise a holic]

I have been on both Oasis and Dream. Had fun on both and as you can see from my signature, I love both lines. But, Oasis was amazing! Gorgeous inside and out. I know there are alot of people on it but, it never felt crowded. It really is huge. We had a corner boardwalk balcony room aft. We had the view of the wake and I mean an entire view of the wake. We also had a view of the boardwalk and the aquatheater. We could sit on the balcony day and night with no wind. Very comfortable and could barely feel the ship move.

 

I know Dream is considered a big ship but it is more the size of Royal's Adventure class. My husband and I enjoyed both ships alot but of all the ships he and I have been on, the Oasis is by far our favorite. They are really organized too which made it not feel crowded. I even rode a merry go round. lol But, it is on the pricey side so we put our money to where we can go more often. Carnival has better rates and we have a blast no matter what line we go on. We love to cruise.

 

By the way, the picture is not photo shopped.

 

We had a Central Park View- not like your beautiful cabin, but more then adequate- It was also very cost effective. For those on a budget, who want outside- a midship location and do not have to see water from their cabin, this is a wonderful choice! We had taken two tween grandchildren in a adjoining cabin wonderful cabins and good value. Since they never cruised before, we thought a good option as perhaps the water might disturb them, which it didn't.

 

We are (again) booked on the Allure Jan. 2014. This will give us an opportunity to enjoy the adult areas in addition to the others.

[gardeningmama]

You clearly have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Fact, not opinion, having looked at your signature and seen all Carnival ships listed.

 

Anyways... as other posters have said, your loss! (That is an opinion).

 

And it's yours, is it not

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

There are plenty of people who are happy with the status quo, and that's perfectly fine. If the line you sail on exclusively is "working" for you, and you're not up for experimenting with something else (it is your hard earned vacation dollar, and your precious time) then stick with it. All the lines have people who are OK with staying the course - and they aren't complaining!!

 

I say that with the best of intent. DO WHAT YOU LIKE, AND WHAT WORKS FOR YOU.

 

Sure, I may feel that some people are missing out by staying with any one thing, but that's my problem, not theirs!

 

And now for something completely different... ;)

 

Off to the store to get some chicken wings to cook out. For MANY years I have tried different recipies (breading, cooking methods, sauces) in my quest for the "prefect" Buffalo wing. I am happy that I kept searching - as I have found what, to me at least, is the ideal approach: Hooter's Breading (only been able to find it at WalMart) along with Anchor Bar (Medium) Buffalo sauce which I purchase by the gallon straight from Buffalo!

 

Thought I would just pass that along to anyone who loves good wings!! :D

 

Tom

[ItsAllAboutTheSass]

I've read that on at least three different threads this week. Must be something to it!!!

 

Tom

 

 

If this is the same roast beef that is in Park Cafe, no need to wait until 6-7. They make fantastic salads there as well.