Rare stevenr597 Posted February 14, 2013 #176 Share Posted February 14, 2013 That would be brilliant and drive all the major cruise lines including Holland America away from the US. The lawmakers already bankrupted the US based cruise industry. Where do you get your information, it is wrong!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare stevenr597 Posted February 14, 2013 #177 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Good news doesn't sell advertising. The media is well known for highlighting the bad and ignoring any positive. Can you please quote your sources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfh77665 Posted February 14, 2013 #178 Share Posted February 14, 2013 And $argent $chultz even says Carnival ought to report the victims to the IRS so they can be taxed on the compensation. I am AGHAST at this, $argent $chultz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiser 4 Life 66 Posted February 14, 2013 #179 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I would like to hear what can be positive about: 1) Having a fire on a ship which leaves it without any power or means of propulsion 2) Running out of food for the passengers 3) Unsanitary Conditions which I do not even want to write about 4) Inadquate compensation for the victims 5) Callousness on the part of Carnival to the passengers 6) The same ship has a history of previous problems and malfunctions 6) The cruise line (Carnival) having the same accident (fire) on another of tis sister ships 7) The cruise linve (Carnival) having a history of malfuncitons and cancelled or altered cruises with other ships. 8) Its sister line (Costa) having one of it newer ships sink in less time than it took the Titanic. Certainly some people can look at Carnival with "Rose Colored Glasses" That happens when you're a Diamond member with Carnival. They could be chucking people overboard and the Diamond members would still say they are great and we are concentrating on the negative too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berryberry Posted February 14, 2013 #180 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Good news doesn't sell advertising. The media is well known for highlighting the bad and ignoring any positive. With all the first hand reports you still deny how horrid this is unreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berryberry Posted February 14, 2013 #181 Share Posted February 14, 2013 So how do YOU get all your glorious misinformation, $argent $chultz? People have waited in line for 4 HOURS and got only a slice of bread with a tomato and mayo on it. They are defacating into small garbage cans...no showers for 3-4 days...raw sewage in the hallways... Lovely, ain't it, $argent $chultz? Companies hire people to manage their PR in social media I suspect some folks on this thread - including your favorite are some of those folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted February 14, 2013 #182 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I would like to hear what can be positive about: 1) Having a fire on a ship which leaves it without any power or means of propulsion 2) Running out of food for the passengers 3) Unsanitary Conditions which I do not even want to write about 4) Inadquate compensation for the victims 5) Callousness on the part of Carnival to the passengers 6) The same ship has a history of previous problems and malfunctions 6) The cruise line (Carnival) having the same accident (fire) on another of tis sister ships 7) The cruise linve (Carnival) having a history of malfuncitons and cancelled or altered cruises with other ships. 8) Its sister line (Costa) having one of it newer ships sink in less time than it took the Titanic. Certainly some people can look at Carnival with "Rose Colored Glasses" So many incorrect statements, so little time. The fire still did not occur over a week ago as some purport. At no time was the ship out of food. Concordia did not sink. Etc. Etc. Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetz Posted February 14, 2013 #183 Share Posted February 14, 2013 So many incorrect statements, so little time. The fire still did not occur over a week ago as some purport. At no time was the ship out of food. Concordia did not sink. Etc. Etc. Etc. Most of what you have said is wrong and most of us know it. Ao just keep going on and on and on with waving your pom poms...Now I can hit the ignore button. Bye Bye...:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisAndretti Posted February 14, 2013 #184 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Companies hire people to manage their PR in social media I suspect some folks on this thread - including your favorite are some of those folks It sure seems that way doesn't it? Either that or there are people who identify with cruise lines the way pre-pubescent girls identify with Justin Bieber. Personally, I would be out of my mind pissed off if they caused me to miss that much work to be trapped in a miserable situation like that. Especially given the problems they've had like this in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElvisAndretti Posted February 14, 2013 #185 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Oh yeah, this looks like 'fun'. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEWORLEANSCRUISER1 Posted February 14, 2013 #186 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Absolutely nothing. Royal pays me to discredit them as much as possible. I've been on 35 Carnival cruises with well over 250 Carnival sea days but have no idea what that has to do with anything. :p Lol - Just did not want you to think I was bashing carnival. One day I will have as many as you do!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer1568 Posted February 14, 2013 #187 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I had this same thought, why not delay the departure of the Magic from Galvistan on Sunday, put those passengers in hotels for the night, sail out and pick up the passengers with 1 bag each, pring them home, then set sail for the Magic cruise monday afternoon. Seams like it would have been a lot less cost, and safer. We are on conquest. The first tug arrived while we were there. The seas not bad but tender from legend which was already there when we arrived had difficulty getting picked up and our tender went alongside tug and transferred supplies to tug. They had to throw items across one at a time. If they tried to transfer people at sea I am certain there would have been injuries and probably loss of life. You needed to see the situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dclark Posted February 14, 2013 #188 Share Posted February 14, 2013 So many incorrect statements, so little time. The fire still did not occur over a week ago as some purport. At no time was the ship out of food. Concordia did not sink. Etc. Etc. Etc. It didn't sink? Really? If that is so, why can't I book a cruise on it? If it didn't sink, what caused the drowning deaths of 30 passengers and crew? Was it from swimming in non authorized areas of water? Wanna blame the passengers for their deaths, or families who are suing to be ungrateful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KathyPet Posted February 14, 2013 #189 Share Posted February 14, 2013 So many incorrect statements, so little time. The fire still did not occur over a week ago as some purport. At no time was the ship out of food. Concordia did not sink. Etc. Etc. Etc. I hope Carnival is paying you big bucks for the nonsense you post here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted February 14, 2013 #190 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Lol - Just did not want you to think I was bashing carnival. One day I will have as many as you do!! Oh... Okay. Never had a bad cruise day yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted February 14, 2013 #191 Share Posted February 14, 2013 It didn't sink? Really? If that is so, why can't I book a cruise on it? If it didn't sink, what caused the drowning deaths of 30 passengers and crew? Was it from swimming in non authorized areas of water? Wanna blame the passengers for their deaths, or families who are suing to be ungrateful? It didn't sink because it ran aground. People who think otherwise are mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted February 14, 2013 #192 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I hope Carnival is paying you big bucks for the nonsense you post here! They are paying me the same or less than what they are paying you to harass me. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyro1952 Posted February 14, 2013 #193 Share Posted February 14, 2013 They are paying me the same or less than what they are paying you to harass me. :p Your lack of insight would be a perfect example of why one would choose NOT to sail on a Carnival ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargent_Schultz Posted February 14, 2013 #194 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Your lack of insight would be a perfect example of why one would choose NOT to sail on a Carnival ship. Yet another rude harassing post. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrkfire911 Posted February 14, 2013 #195 Share Posted February 14, 2013 A generous company would keep its equipment in top running condition at all times for the safety of its passengers.Considering the past record of the Carnival Company, I would say their generosity is only driven by the threat of lawsuits and the loss of future revenues! OK wow..this really made me laugh! SERIOUSLY?? people can threaten all they want to sue..they wont get anywhere. Call a lawyer, you'd be told "good luck" you have to prove negligence ..Carnival isnt negligent because of an engine that caught fire broke down and took out the power...do you think they put a match to it and did it on purpose ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cde48 Posted February 14, 2013 #196 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Generous! We were cancelled 10 years back, on a Celebrity Infinity Hawaiian cruise, and they put us on another itinerary, same amount of days, for free, have us back all the money that we paid, and 75% off a future cruise. They also gave us $200 shipboard credit for each passanger in our party. We weren't even schedule to go for a month. Carnival is putting $$$$ before maintenance and upkeep of their ships. You get what you pay for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrkfire911 Posted February 14, 2013 #197 Share Posted February 14, 2013 We are on conquest. The first tug arrived while we were there. The seas not bad but tender from legend which was already there when we arrived had difficulty getting picked up and our tender went alongside tug and transferred supplies to tug. They had to throw items across one at a time. If they tried to transfer people at sea I am certain there would have been injuries and probably loss of life. You needed to see the situation Great point!! they could NOT just pull another ship along side (whether they had one available or not) and get all the passengers off and home its just plain not safe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cde48 Posted February 14, 2013 #198 Share Posted February 14, 2013 OK wow..this really made me laugh! SERIOUSLY?? people can threaten all they want to sue..they wont get anywhere. Call a lawyer, you'd be told "good luck" you have to prove negligence ..Carnival isnt negligent because of an engine that caught fire broke down and took out the power...do you think they put a match to it and did it on purpose ? Actually, they could be held liable if they find out the fire was a result of improper upkeep and maintenance on the engine. The only issue they may have, is that it's a registered vessel of the Bahamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cde48 Posted February 14, 2013 #199 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Actually, they could be held liable if they find out the fire was a result of improper upkeep and maintenance on the engine. The only issue they may have, is that it's a registered vessel of the Bahamas. But, if they did sue, it would on be small claims, unless one suffered serious injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broyles60 Posted February 15, 2013 #200 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Personally, I think SS holds a boat load of Carnival Stock and does PR to protect his share value. That's why he can scoff at the idea Carnival pays him directly, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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