The Other Tom Posted August 25, 2017 #1 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Qantas wants to do it and has challenged the aircraft manufacturers to make a plane that will do it. 20+ hours. Wow if it happens ! https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/flights/todayinthesky/2017/08/24/qantas-planning-20-hour-non-stop-flight-london/599038001/ Uh-Oh. Typo in heading. Tried to the SYD but the dang spell checker got me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted August 25, 2017 #2 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Its a ways away for now. And a real stretch. I understand the A380 can't make it from SYD to DFW fully loaded. I suspect the solution might be the same for SYD to LHR or NYC, on the 777 or A350. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted August 26, 2017 #3 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I've done DFW-SYN both ways on the 380 that was nearly full. 17 hours is to long, 20 hours just shoot me!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slidergirl Posted August 26, 2017 #4 Share Posted August 26, 2017 I can't imagine!!! I've done the 12 hours AMM-JFK and the 11 hours LHR-LAX. Tack on another full work-day worth of hours and I'd be suidical... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare pinotlover Posted August 26, 2017 #5 Share Posted August 26, 2017 It's the bone dry recycled cabin air that kills you. Your throats, voice, and everyone's germs for that long! If they do it, they need to do a lower pressure cabin like the 787-9 and change up the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare PaulMCO Posted August 26, 2017 #6 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Will never happen. There is no market for that many planes to justify the investment. Just think of the disaster the A380 has been (financially for Airbus). Airbus is balking at a 380NEO for a 100 unit order and that is just a minimum modification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare FlyerTalker Posted August 26, 2017 #7 Share Posted August 26, 2017 Will never happen. There is no market for that many planes to justify the investment. Just think of the disaster the A380 has been (financially for Airbus). Airbus is balking at a 380NEO for a 100 unit order and that is just a minimum modification. Look to the experience of the A340-500 for Singapore. Designed with the range to go non-stop from Newark to Singapore. But there are payload limitations for such a long flight - much of the takeoff weight is in fuel, not passengers or cargo. Consequently, they made it an all business config with far fewer passengers. Still could not make it an economically viable proposition. IMO, this is just QF doing some saber-rattling. They know they can't do the Kangaroo Route non-stop, won't get an aircraft that is economically justified, but the still want to demonstrate to the folks at home that they should stick with the Flying Rat because they care about their Aussie customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slidergirl Posted August 27, 2017 #8 Share Posted August 27, 2017 Look to the experience of the A340-500 for Singapore. Designed with the range to go non-stop from Newark to Singapore. But there are payload limitations for such a long flight - much of the takeoff weight is in fuel, not passengers or cargo. Consequently, they made it an all business config with far fewer passengers. Still could not make it an economically viable proposition. IMO, this is just QF doing some saber-rattling. They know they can't do the Kangaroo Route non-stop, won't get an aircraft that is economically justified, but the still want to demonstrate to the folks at home that they should stick with the Flying Rat because they care about their Aussie customers. I thought the mascot of Qantas was a Kangaroo, not a Pigeon... (sorry, I had to do that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare FlyerTalker Posted August 27, 2017 #9 Share Posted August 27, 2017 I thought the mascot of Qantas was a Kangaroo, not a Pigeon... (sorry, I had to do that) The roo is the big rat...look at the tail. :) It's the passengers that are the pigeons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slidergirl Posted August 28, 2017 #10 Share Posted August 28, 2017 The roo is the big rat...look at the tail. :) It's the passengers that are the pigeons. It does look a tad "rat-ish". but, I've always heard pigeons called flying rats. That's why I had a laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach1213 Posted August 29, 2017 #11 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I fly some ultra-long hauls on a fairly regular basis - DFW-SYD-DFW a few times each year, for example. 16 hours is definitely tough, but at that point I might as well just hang in there for 19-20 and get there instead of having to add several hours stopping somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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