Hawaiidan Posted August 15, 2019 #1 Share Posted August 15, 2019 To all who have taken the " included air" with and without using the premium economy option, What was your experience if you were flying from the west coast SFO/SAN/LAX? without custom routing fees. To Europe ROME, Venice, Barcelona, Amsterdam. : Departure time, Carrier, #connections, layover time, Arrival . Also the same for Miami, NY, Montreal domestic Curious as to what the offer or have had in the past if any can remember flight details Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osandomir Posted August 15, 2019 #2 Share Posted August 15, 2019 First time will be using Oceania air this month. Very happy with the flight non-stop LAX - LHR in premium economy. They even picked great seats for us and it couldn’t be better if I do it myself. We prefer to fly business, but did premium economy to Europe one time before on our own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted August 15, 2019 #3 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hawaiidan said: To all who have taken the " included air" with and without using the premium economy option, What was your experience if you were flying from the west coast SFO/SAN/LAX? without custom routing fees. To Europe ROME, Venice, Barcelona, Amsterdam. : Departure time, Carrier, #connections, layover time, Arrival . Also the same for Miami, NY, Montreal domestic Curious as to what the offer or have had in the past if any can remember flight details Thanks Dan, you probably know the answer just don't want to hear it Prior experiences have no bearing on future experiences as they will offer the cheapest ticket/routing available at that time (unless you deviate). You can get lucky - like osandomir above - but do you feel lucky, do you (to paraphrase Dirty Harry)? 😂 Edited August 15, 2019 by Paulchili 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted August 15, 2019 #4 Share Posted August 15, 2019 we pay the deviation fee to fly in early I would never fly to Europe the same day not even in BIZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted August 15, 2019 #5 Share Posted August 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, LHT28 said: we pay the deviation fee to fly in early I would never fly to Europe the same day not even in BIZ In addition, I hope that you do know that if you miss the cruise - even if it's an O booked flight - you are on your own to catch up with the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted August 15, 2019 Author #6 Share Posted August 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, Paulchili said: Dan, you probably know the answer just don't want to hear it Prior experiences have no bearing on future experiences as they will offer the cheapest ticket/routing available at that time (unless you deviate). You can get lucky - like osandomir above - but do you feel lucky. do you ? 😂 The truth is I do not know the answer because I have no historical data That was my question... Yes things change and will. but how much and when and why? At this point you nor I really know for sure. However, I hoped to see if there is any historical commonality ... I do not know.. None of us know I do not think anyone has asked or any gross information/ data base compiled. to see the probability of anything... from flights to gambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted August 15, 2019 Author #7 Share Posted August 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, LHT28 said: we pay the deviation fee to fly in early I would never fly to Europe the same day not even in BIZ That was not the question I asked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare GeezerCouple Posted August 15, 2019 #8 Share Posted August 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, LHT28 said: we pay the deviation fee to fly in early I would never fly to Europe the same day not even in BIZ Uh, right! The front of the plane arrives mere micro-seconds before the rest of the plane, not enough time if there is a delay affecting the entire plane (Sorry.... couldn't resist!) And I just cannot imagine taking the risk of flying in same day! There's also the stress if anything seems to be not working quite right... even if it all "ends up fine". GC 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted August 15, 2019 Author #9 Share Posted August 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Paulchili said: In addition, I hope that you do know that if you miss the cruise - even if it's an O booked flight - you are on your own to catch up with the ship. Which is meaningless unless we have data to see when and if and how such situations happen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted August 15, 2019 #10 Share Posted August 15, 2019 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted August 15, 2019 #11 Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hawaiidan said: The truth is I do not know the answer because I have no historical data What you do know is that the chances of getting the "best" direct non-stop flight (most expensive option) is a lot less than getting a cheaper flight with one or more connections. The often measly O's credit for included flights seldom qualifies for the "best" flights. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted August 15, 2019 Author #12 Share Posted August 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, GeezerCouple said: Uh, right! The front of the plane arrives mere micro-seconds before the rest of the plane, not enough time if there is a delay affecting the entire plane (Sorry.... couldn't resist!) And I just cannot imagine taking the risk of flying in same day! There's also the stress if anything seems to be not working quite right... even if it all "ends up fine". GC Please folks.... all I wanted was experiences of the past... flights, routes, carriers, times. Nothing else at this point is even matters. So can you tell me what % of flights from the west coast miss the ship? What carriers What time of year What ports.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osandomir Posted August 15, 2019 #13 Share Posted August 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, Paulchili said: Dan, you probably know the answer just don't want to hear it Prior experiences have no bearing on future experiences as they will offer the cheapest ticket/routing available at that time (unless you deviate). You can get lucky - like osandomir above - but do you feel lucky. do you ? 😂 Paul - you’re right, we are happy to get best flight. But before we booked Oceania air I did some research. It looks like that most of the time the cheapest most economical flight with a scheduler to get us to London on the day of the cruise is the direct flight LAX - LHR. Given Oceania contracted with BA our odds were good. We don't fly in on the day of the cruise normally, but this time it works best for us. Also we’ve been to London before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted August 15, 2019 #14 Share Posted August 15, 2019 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulchili Posted August 15, 2019 #15 Share Posted August 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hawaiidan said: Which is meaningless unless we have data to see when and if and how such situations happen.... Most people DO make it on the ship on time but stuff happens - no way to predict that. It's not that unusual for flights to be late and miss connections. Just think of what you would be faced with flying to Asia via HKG planning to arrive on the day of the cruise. Who could have predicted that crazy situation. If you have a day or two to play with, you can make changes/adjustments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted August 15, 2019 Author #16 Share Posted August 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Paulchili said: Most people DO make it on the ship on time but stuff happens - no way to predict that. It's not that unusual for flights to be late and miss connections. Just think of what you would be faced with flying to Asia via HKG planning to arrive on the day of the cruise. Who could have predicted that crazy situation. If you have a day or two to play with, you can make changes/adjustments. Paul..I am not arguing anything, nor debating the merit of when to fly in or not. That is not what I was trying to accomplish. All I wanted was to collect others experiences . No philosophy, no personality to nothing but raw information to review just on flights from the west coast to europe. .thats all. . Frustrating that people can not just give their experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted August 15, 2019 Author #17 Share Posted August 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, LHT28 said: so look up the data & stop being rude to people I dont know whether to cry or laugh..... I am trying here to look up the data, because it does not exist any place... That is why I asked a very simple question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted August 15, 2019 Author #18 Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 hour ago, osandomir said: First time will be using Oceania air this month. Very happy with the flight non-stop LAX - LHR in premium economy. They even picked great seats for us and it couldn’t be better if I do it myself. We prefer to fly business, but did premium economy to Europe one time before on our own. Thanks for your information August / LAX-LHR /non stop/ British Air. Prem econ.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osandomir Posted August 15, 2019 #19 Share Posted August 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hawaiidan said: I dont know whether to cry or laugh..... I am trying here to look up the data, because it does not exist any place... That is why I asked a very simple question. I don’t think Dan was rude to anybody. This topic unlike some others on this board will benefit many Oceania cruisers if he gets more related answers to his question. I was looking for similar information when booked air inclusive rate. That’s why I responded to his thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted August 15, 2019 #20 Share Posted August 15, 2019 No offense intended, but the OP's question has so many variables that it cannot be considered a serious inquiry, and I believe that he knows this. Would it be productive to ask which parking spaces were available last week in front of the Oceania Headquarters, when planning where to Park next October? Sitting here, shaking my head. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeniEncinitas Posted August 15, 2019 #21 Share Posted August 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, StanandJim said: No offense intended, but the OP's question has so many variables that it cannot be considered a serious inquiry, and I believe that he knows this. Would it be productive to ask which parking spaces were available last week in front of the Oceania Headquarters, when planning where to Park next October? Sitting here, shaking my head. Ditto👍 Denise😊 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted August 15, 2019 #22 Share Posted August 15, 2019 2 hours ago, osandomir said: Paul - you’re right, we are happy to get best flight. But before we booked Oceania air I did some research. It looks like that most of the time the cheapest most economical flight with a scheduler to get us to London on the day of the cruise is the direct flight LAX - LHR. Given Oceania contracted with BA our odds were good. How was your flight did it arrive on time? My luck flying to LHR is the flights seem to be later than the scheduled time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osandomir Posted August 15, 2019 #23 Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 hour ago, LHT28 said: How was your flight did it arrive on time? My luck flying to LHR is the flights seem to be later than the scheduled time Our flight will be in a couple of weeks. I’ll post an update when we get on the ship. We realize the risk factor, especially with the recent BA pilots threatening to go on the strike. But if everything be alright with Oceania air arrangements we’ll save plenty of miles (money) compared to paying for business class tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare LHT28 Posted August 16, 2019 #24 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, osandomir said: Our flight will be in a couple of weeks. I’ll post an update when we get on the ship. We realize the risk factor, especially with the recent BA pilots threatening to go on the strike. But if everything be alright with Oceania air arrangements we’ll save plenty of miles (money) compared to paying for business class tickets. Good luck Looks like the pilots reached an agreement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeniEncinitas Posted August 16, 2019 #25 Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, osandomir said: Our flight will be in a couple of weeks. I’ll post an update when we get on the ship. We realize the risk factor, especially with the recent BA pilots threatening to go on the strike. But if everything be alright with Oceania air arrangements we’ll save plenty of miles (money) compared to paying for business class tickets. Been watching the outcome! Looks like BA came to an agreement with the pilots! We have a flight soon and glad they are fine! Have a great trip! Denise😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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