Carnival Corp to retire 6 ships in next 90 days

[BigAl94]

Just spotted this https://help.carnival.com/ci/fattach/get/6487588/1596548135/redirect/1/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xNTk2NjIyMDY0L3NpZC9mVWVUNkI0djdienNIX292SmpfcFR2cUJlU1d1VkNZamFTM1Z6WGVFMHpSYmpMTkUwQU9fS2VyOG1NV2FjQzdVSmNYTk9hWHJPRU1seTBneiU3RU92ODNGMzc2X0xOUVRWZk1vcEl0TmpvdlpvcWJ6VUt5cXFVS05VUSUyMSUyMQ==/filename/Ship Class Guide 0820.pdf  Both Fascination and  Imagination have been removed from this update, August 2020

[BigAl94]

Video of Fascination arrival at Cadiz 

 

[fstuff1]

2 hours ago, BigAl94 said:

Video of Fascination arrival at Cadiz 

 

 

look at all that rust. 😞

 

i'd imagine ALL the ships on all the cruise lines look like this after 4 months of minimum crew? (ie: noone to scrub out the rust cause by salt water + paint while docked?)

 

or is this how Carnivale ships normally look like? :o

Edited August 5, 2020 by fstuff1

[roeco9084]

7 hours ago, fstuff1 said:

 

look at all that rust. 😞

 

i'd imagine ALL the ships on all the cruise lines look like this after 4 months of minimum crew? (ie: noone to scrub out the rust cause by salt water + paint while docked?)

 

or is this how Carnivale ships normally look like? 😮

how far was she towed? Thought would of sailed on her own!

[beshears]

This, watching the Carnival Fascination, made me so SAD. 😞 I was hoping that I would be able to take my 3 sons/3 d-i-l's to St. Lucia, as THIS was the ship that was to take us there.

I did hear from my PVP wanting me to contact her, but I cannot make any plans until we seen his this virus is going. 😞

[Stick93]

Yup - this ship is never sailing again. Chances are it will never even be turned on again. 

[DryCreek]

22 hours ago, roeco9084 said:

how far was she towed? Thought would of sailed on her own!

She probably would have come in under her own power (she had engines running), but many congested ports require tugs.  Plus, look at the flags fluttering nearly straight out - that was a very stout wind they were fighting to dock her.

 

When I look at that ship I see superficial surface corrosion.  All of that could easily be chipped, primed and painted over in about 48 hours.  I also see more balconies on her than possibly other ships in her class.  Interesting.  According to WikiPedia, she is equipped with twin shafts, and fore/aft thrusters - no azipods.  That could be a handicap.  Maybe.

 

[BlerkOne]

Poster based in the United Kingdom · February 11 ·

So just before I head to my Q and A and morning of fun here on the Carnival Conquest I wanted to chat about something and answer a questions some of you have been asking me in recent days.

I’ve been hearing from guests about the exterior condition of certain ships in the fleet, most especially as it relates to rust that is visible on hulls, balconies, railings and other public areas.

Please know that we are also unhappy with the situation and have a high-level working group to find both short-term and permanent solutions.

This matter started with a paint product that clearly did not deliver what it promised to do, and in fact, actually promoted the growth of rust. We have obviously changed vendors and do not use that paint any longer, but it will take some time to bring the fleet back up to the standards both our guests and crew expect.

We have assembled our own SWAT teams to address situations we can easily address. But this effort is complicated by environmental rules and regulations and our commitment to best practices. We are no longer able to paint and conduct certain cleaning/scraping procedures in certain ports. We must also be mindful of using the most environmentally-friendly cleaning and paint products that protect the health of our guests, crew and the ocean. So while we can conduct some spot repairs and urgent touch-ups, much of this work may have to wait until dry-docks.

I want to assure you this situation is certainly not purposeful or out of neglect. We are dedicated to making improvements as quickly as possible......

[quattrohead]

Yet more fanciful PR talk from that well known "personality"

Over the years cruising, you could always spot a poorly maintained looking Carnival ship, last one I saw was Sensation and it looked horrible compared to Armonia that you would struggle to find a single speck of rust on.

Also, Fascination looked to have quite bad rust along the panel welds, I would not want to see that on my ship.

[jimbo5544]

9 minutes ago, quattrohead said:

Yet more fanciful PR talk from that well known "personality"

Over the years cruising, you could always spot a poorly maintained looking Carnival ship, last one I saw was Sensation and it looked horrible compared to Armonia that you would struggle to find a single speck of rust on.

Also, Fascination looked to have quite bad rust along the panel welds, I would not want to see that on my ship.

Or it could be just the way they say....