Holland has upped their game in casino offers :O)

[Shippy]

 Princess & Holland have both given us great casino offers but now Holland has jumped ahead.

Although the time is fairly short to accept an offer before it expires, usually just about 2 weeks.

   The dates for eligible cruises goes way out. We just had an offer for a free cruise & drinks.

To good to pass by when I saw we could book out into 2025. So, we just booked a Mexican cruise for 11 nights 

for March 2025 !

  The only thing we really have to lose if we cancel is the $100.pp deposit. I was assured port & tax would be refunded.

The way things are going, I am sure cruise fares & drink packages will keep going up just like everything else.

  

[crystalspin]

HAL doesn't actually make the casino offers. Like so much else on their cruises, the casino is outsourced! I forget the name of the franchise holder, but I have read it on CC. 

 

THAT entity thinks you are a safe bet to gamble more than their price for the room and drinks.

[CDRonboard]

 Would be interesting to know what that company name is  that sends out  those casino cruise offers for free ? 

[Taters]

11 minutes ago, CDRonboard said:

 Would be interesting to know what that company name is  that sends out  those casino cruise offers for free ? 

It is Ocean Players Club. https://oceanplayersclub.com/

[CDRonboard]

37 minutes ago, Taters said:

It is Ocean Players Club. https://oceanplayersclub.com/

Thanks we went on that site & asked why we are getting casino deals from their Carnival cruise line but not their holland america cruise line.Hope to get a answer shortly

[Shippy]

1 hour ago, crystalspin said:

HAL doesn't actually make the casino offers. Like so much else on their cruises, the casino is outsourced! I forget the name of the franchise holder, but I have read it on CC. 

 

THAT entity thinks you are a safe bet to gamble more than their price for the room and drinks.

The email just says in large letters....

Holland America Players Club.

I know they are all outsourced but the cruise line likes make you think it is them....fine with me !

[POA1]

Ocean Players Club is a Carnival Corp subsidiary. It handles the casino stuff for all the brands.

[Laminator]

4 hours ago, POA1 said:

Ocean Players Club is a Carnival Corp subsidiary. It handles the casino stuff for all the brands.

Exactly...It is all under the same corporate umbrella. If they were outsourced they would triple their income. 

[Laminator]

6 hours ago, crystalspin said:

HAL doesn't actually make the casino offers. Like so much else on their cruises, the casino is outsourced! I forget the name of the franchise holder, but I have read it on CC. 

 

THAT entity thinks you are a safe bet to gamble more than their price for the room and drinks.

THAT entity is Carnival Casino Division which is under the Carnival Corporate umbrella. This I know as I have been sailing on HAL casino invites since 2007. 

[Shippy]

I think my original point has been lost.

I was trying to stress how wonderful the offers have become....

[TRLD]

6 hours ago, crystalspin said:

HAL doesn't actually make the casino offers. Like so much else on their cruises, the casino is outsourced! I forget the name of the franchise holder, but I have read it on CC. 

 

THAT entity thinks you are a safe bet to gamble more than their price for the room and drinks.

Global Casino Operations runs the Casinos on the CCL owned lines.  Probably because, if I recall correctly, they are a subsidiary of Carnival.

 

The offers are based upon the revenue of the casino operations on a given line.  If revenue is up offers drop, if revenue is down offers improve.  

[Gail & Marty sailing away]

Sounds like a great deal.

[disneyochem]

11 hours ago, Shippy said:

I think my original point has been lost.

I was trying to stress how wonderful the offers have become....

I completely agree!  I’m a casual gambler (budget $250/cruise) and have gotten some great offers recently —booked Panama Canal and Hawaiian cruises for 2025.  
 

Of course, as my hubby (who has NEVER gambled) likes to point out these cruises are not free!  We upgrade room categories (OV to veranda) and add HIA.  Still, it’s nice to save a few dollars!

[noshoobie]

We received a free Carnival Cruise in September through a tier match with our land based casino. Since we returned we get weekly offers from Carnival for free interior cabins with drinks in the casino. I just found out through this wonderful CC website that HAL does tier match so I uploaded our land based casino card and I got an offer from HAL for free interior plus drinks in the casino. HAL is new to us and I am so excited to give it a try!

[Shippy]

1 hour ago, disneyochem said:

I completely agree!  I’m a casual gambler (budget $250/cruise) and have gotten some great offers recently —booked Panama Canal and Hawaiian cruises for 2025.  
 

Of course, as my hubby (who has NEVER gambled) likes to point out these cruises are not free!  We upgrade room categories (OV to veranda) and add HIA.  Still, it’s nice to save a few dollars!

That is great. That is what I thought so much better than other offers is the fact you can book way out. Actually a year away. Most other offers we ever get are only good for a booking a few months out.

[daisy-mae]

16 hours ago, Shippy said:

I think my original point has been lost.

I was trying to stress how wonderful the offers have become....

Just wondering how you access your offers? I used to receive offers in the mail with a list of eligible cruises. Now all I get are emails that mention offers but direct us to the HA website, where no such list appears. Is there some way to see a list without doing a mock booking?

[NCTribeFan]

My offers have pretty much vanished.  After 26 nights on Rotterdam last spring, I was hoping I'd get some good offers.  Not that I'm much of a high roller.  But nothing exciting.  Basically just my "usual" 20-30% offer, which I'll take.

 

So, I sailed again in January and I've received only ONE offer and it wasn't a freebie (hey, I only get interior cabins at the best of times).  So I booked that for November.  Booked bare-bones interior cabin.  I get drinks while gambling and a whopping $100 in free play.  Again, I'll take it.

 

But I'm starting to feel like they've decided that since I seem to always have at least one future cruise booked at all times, they don't need to entice me with offers.  This is how I felt about Carnival.  I was at over 30 cruises (most with casino discounts) before they FINALLY offered me a free interior cabin.  Maybe because I'd stopped booking with them!

 

Anyway, nothing new for me.  But if they can't give me some offers, I simply won't spend my money in the casino.  And maybe I'll even stop having 2-3 cruises booked each time I sail!

[Laminator]

47 minutes ago, NCTribeFan said:

My offers have pretty much vanished.  After 26 nights on Rotterdam last spring, I was hoping I'd get some good offers.  Not that I'm much of a high roller.  But nothing exciting.  Basically just my "usual" 20-30% offer, which I'll take.

 

So, I sailed again in January and I've received only ONE offer and it wasn't a freebie (hey, I only get interior cabins at the best of times).  So I booked that for November.  Booked bare-bones interior cabin.  I get drinks while gambling and a whopping $100 in free play.  Again, I'll take it.

 

But I'm starting to feel like they've decided that since I seem to always have at least one future cruise booked at all times, they don't need to entice me with offers.  This is how I felt about Carnival.  I was at over 30 cruises (most with casino discounts) before they FINALLY offered me a free interior cabin.  Maybe because I'd stopped booking with them!

 

Anyway, nothing new for me.  But if they can't give me some offers, I simply won't spend my money in the casino.  And maybe I'll even stop having 2-3 cruises booked each time I sail!

The generosity and frequency of the offers have declined dramatically over the past 18 months. As the ships are sailing fuller there is no longer the need to fill up the cabins with casino offers. There is alot of Holland America Casino Players on a site that I am not allowed to mention here. There is much more robust information on casino offers and the tricks needed to obtain better casino offers. 

[farjar]

Just curious.  I've gambled on both Carnival and Holland but never gotten a casino offer that I am aware of.  How do you receive them?  Do they come directly to the email account other cruise advertising goes to or do you have to sign in to your account and fine them there?

33 minutes ago, Laminator said:

The generosity and frequency of the offers have declined dramatically over the past 18 months. As the ships are sailing fuller there is no longer the need to fill up the cabins with casino offers. There is alot of Holland America Casino Players on a site that I am not allowed to mention here. There is much more robust information on casino offers and the tricks needed to obtain better casino offers. 

 

[Laminator]

Just now, farjar said:

Just curious.  I've gambled on both Carnival and Holland but never gotten a casino offer that I am aware of.  How do you receive them?  Do they come directly to the email account other cruise advertising goes to or do you have to sign in to your account and fine them there?

 

There are 2 ways to receive offers. One is a Come Back and Sail offer which is left in your cabin usually the morning of the day before disembarkation. The 2nd is thru email offers. You need to make sure you are opted in to receive emails from HAL. 

[Shippy]

We have actually sailed & gambled more on Princess but I know that the gambling info is shared between some cruise lines.

   The absolute best offer from Princess is left in your cabin on the last day of the cruise. You have about a month to book & the cruise can go out only about 6 months.

All the email offers I get from Princess are not very good. Only about half the one left in the cabin.

  Holland sends me offers (email) all the time. Some better than others. That is why you have to look at each one & not just erase because you assume they are not good. The last was to good to be true so I booked for next year. I had read somewhere on cruise critic that these offers can be used 3 TIMES each from Holland even though the offer does not say that. I just tried a mock booking on the offer we just used and YES, it appears I can use that offer again   :O)

 

[Laminator]

16 minutes ago, Shippy said:

We have actually sailed & gambled more on Princess but I know that the gambling info is shared between some cruise lines.

   The absolute best offer from Princess is left in your cabin on the last day of the cruise. You have about a month to book & the cruise can go out only about 6 months.

All the email offers I get from Princess are not very good. Only about half the one left in the cabin.

  Holland sends me offers (email) all the time. Some better than others. That is why you have to look at each one & not just erase because you assume they are not good. The last was to good to be true so I booked for next year. I had read somewhere on cruise critic that these offers can be used 3 TIMES each from Holland even though the offer does not say that. I just tried a mock booking on the offer we just used and YES, it appears I can use that offer again   :O)

 

The email offers can be used up to 3 times. The come back and sail offers one time. 

[Laminator]

1 hour ago, Shippy said:

We have actually sailed & gambled more on Princess but I know that the gambling info is shared between some cruise lines.

   The absolute best offer from Princess is left in your cabin on the last day of the cruise. You have about a month to book & the cruise can go out only about 6 months.

All the email offers I get from Princess are not very good. Only about half the one left in the cabin.

  Holland sends me offers (email) all the time. Some better than others. That is why you have to look at each one & not just erase because you assume they are not good. The last was to good to be true so I booked for next year. I had read somewhere on cruise critic that these offers can be used 3 TIMES each from Holland even though the offer does not say that. I just tried a mock booking on the offer we just used and YES, it appears I can use that offer again   :O)

 

This should be in the fine print on your email.