Abolish All Formal Nights - all in favor speak up!

[cruzincurt]

With no formal nights at all, the dress will fall to grunge every night. Just take an airplane flight. The majority of people wear grunge because they are just lazy, have low self esteem, and look the part.

 

Just a few decades ago, people taking an airplane flight would wear their Sunday best. Now it's grunge. No wonder when the luggage arrives late, the grunge shows up at the first dinner. Do they travel so poorly dressed to save their good clothes for other events?

 

We have to reprimand some of our employees on "casual" Friday when they show up in a business office wearing jeans with holes in them. There is no lower level that some people will dress down to. The standard of today's dress is if Britney is wearing underwear or if George Clooney has decided to shave this week.

 

Want to let it hang out? rent your own houseboat. Why is dressing nicely not relaxing? Why does "mass market" equal grunge?

[Loucat]

I usually would not enter something like this, but here goes:

KEEP FORMAL NIGHTS! WE LOVE THEM!!

[MrsPete]

Nope. I can't agree with you on this topic.

 

People who choose NOT to participate in formal night have several other dining options; however, it's not really realistic to say that it'd work the other way around. You can't really have a formal night if everyone -- or at least the majority -- in the dining room doesn't participate.

[MrsPete]

With no formal nights at all, the dress will fall to grunge every night. Just take an airplane flight. The majority of people wear grunge because they are just lazy, have low self esteem, and look the part.

 

Just a few decades ago, people taking an airplane flight would wear their Sunday best. Now it's grunge. No wonder when the luggage arrives late, the grunge shows up at the first dinner. Do they travel so poorly dressed to save their good clothes for other events?

 

We have to reprimand some of our employees on "casual" Friday when they show up in a business office wearing jeans with holes in them. There is no lower level that some people will dress down to. The standard of today's dress is if Britney is wearing underwear or if George Clooney has decided to shave this week.

 

Want to let it hang out? rent your own houseboat. Why is dressing nicely not relaxing? Why does "mass market" equal grunge?

Makes me think of a thing that happened a couple years ago: My sister was getting married, and our grandmother went to a great amount of trouble to throw her a lovely bridesmaid's luncheon in her home; she'd done the same thing for me years before, and it was very, very nice. She had formal china, flowers on the table, and excellent food -- she put weeks of planning into this event, even sending out formal invitations to the girls. My sister's college-aged bridesmaids showed up in hole-y jeans and tees/flannel shirts; both my sister and my grandmother were mortified.

 

The girls then went to the church for the wedding rehearsal in their "grunge" . . . but they hurried back to their hotel to change into nice dresses before going to the restaurant for the rehearsal dinner!

 

Where's the logic in that?

[Ocean Boy]

With no formal nights at all, the dress will fall to grunge every night. Just take an airplane flight. The majority of people wear grunge because they are just lazy, have low self esteem, and look the part.

 

Just a few decades ago, people taking an airplane flight would wear their Sunday best. Now it's grunge. No wonder when the luggage arrives late, the grunge shows up at the first dinner. Do they travel so poorly dressed to save their good clothes for other events?

 

What a rediculous attempt at logic.... if there is no formal night then every night will become grunge night. I have no problem with folks who want formal night having it. But there is no need to try to justify it by carrying things to extremes. I have very nice casual clothes and I enjoy wearing them. I hardly dress like "grunge".

 

And as far as flying goes your comparison falls apart there too. Just a few decades ago people were not packed into airplanes like sardines. Flying is all about transportation and nothing more. It isn't just for the rich. Flying is mass transportation. And if you think I'm going to wear my Sunday best when the TSA is going to make me take half of it off and the person in the seat next to me on the plane is practically sitting in my lap.... it ain't going to happen.

[glgolfer]

caveat - I didn't read all the posts.

 

Overall I've found this to be a fun post to read without the acrimony that has been generated by statements like this. People have stated their opinion, some have had fun with it and I didn't see anyone ready to lynch anyone else.

See caveat above.

 

I bought a tux for functions at a club I belonged to. I discovered how comfortable a made to order one was. I wear it on cruises to amortize the cost which is down to about $5 a wearing.

I would be disappointed if they did away with formal nights. It just adds a little class to the overall experience as far as I'm concerned.

Does that mean anyone that doesn't want formal night or doesn't wear a tux/suit on formal night doesn't have any class. No, it just means that's my opinion about some pieces of cloth.

 

Most everyone dressed up to fly anyplace in the 50s and 60s. Look at what is worn on planes today. Is that what is wanted on cruise ships?

 

How far does anyone want the pendulum to swing?

 

I could make a political statemnent here about what party the OP belongs to based on his stated desire that he doesn't want anyone who disagres with him to post here (but I won't). (yank,yank) (all parties).

 

OT - $2,100,100 doubled.

[Ohunion Cruzers]

With no formal nights at all, the dress will fall to grunge every night. Just take an airplane flight. The majority of people wear grunge because they are just lazy, have low self esteem, and look the part.

 

Just a few decades ago, people taking an airplane flight would wear their Sunday best. Now it's grunge. No wonder when the luggage arrives late, the grunge shows up at the first dinner. Do they travel so poorly dressed to save their good clothes for other events?

 

We have to reprimand some of our employees on "casual" Friday when they show up in a business office wearing jeans with holes in them. There is no lower level that some people will dress down to. The standard of today's dress is if Britney is wearing underwear or if George Clooney has decided to shave this week.

 

Want to let it hang out? rent your own houseboat. Why is dressing nicely not relaxing? Why does "mass market" equal grunge?

 

I totally agree. What a perfect analogy.

[Ocean Boy]

Can a post with a copy of the RCI website dress guidelines now be far behind??;) :D :D :D

[sagiv666]

I am starting a movement to get formal nights removed from cruising. I know it is controversial, but worth the effort.

 

All that should be required in the evenings is resort casual or country club casual or better. If one chooses to dress in tux and gowns than it would be their prerogative. As my mom says you can never really be too overdressed.

 

Not having a formal night is a more fair system. I pay the same amount as the others and because I don't like to dress up like I am going to work while I am on vacation I am forced to pay to eat in the specialty restaurant or the hideous buffet or be sequestered in my room.

 

The cruiselines read these boards and lets send them a great message!

 

If I don't get a response in my favor I will start showing up in ripped jeans and t-shirt on formal nights. As we all know poorly dress people are never asked to leave. ;)

 

I disagree. I would want two formal nights: one night when the Captain welcomes you (usually the second night of the cruise) and one night when you say goodbye to all who took care of you (usually the next to the last night before disembarking). If you abolished all other formal nights -- for example, their are three formal nights one cruises longer than 12 nights -- that would be fine; even semi-formal nights are now called "smart casual".

But do we have to get rid of all traditions? Next, we'll be making our own beds, cleaning our cabins, and cooking our own food.:eek:

[Ohunion Cruzers]

Can a post with a copy of the RCI website dress guidelines now be far behind??;) :D :D :D

 

Look at post 208.....you missed the link.

[sagiv666]

Yes, get shut of the formal night - such an old fashioned idea. My husband has to wear a suit and tie for work every single day and so we go on holiday to relax and be casual - not have to lug dressy stuff in our cases worrrying about whether we've got to pay excess baggage allowance.

 

I agree - let those who WANT to dress up do so, and let those of us who want to be comfortable and casual do the same without raised eyebrows.

 

If you want to be casual all the time don't go on a cruise. Go to an island, lie on the beach and spend the days and nights drinking drinks with little umbrellas:rolleyes:

[shirleygr]

I hate formal nights because unlike most women, I hate dressing up. Ironically DH likes to dress up. I save him a fortune on clothes since I wear the same formal outfit on every cruise. After all, you only wear it once or twice a year so it never wears out. Although we do have a lot of formal photos on various ships of me in that outfit :D

It's nice to know I'm not the only woman who feels this way. DH loves to dress up for formal night. I couldn't care less.

[Ocean Boy]

Look at post 208.....you missed the link.

Now all is right in the world of Cruise Critic. I shall sleep well tonight.:)

[Ocean Boy]

If you want to be casual all the time don't go on a cruise. Go to an island, lie on the beach and spend the days and nights drinking drinks with little umbrellas:rolleyes:

 

There are, however, people who don't like to go to the beach and don't drink anything with a little umbrella sticking out of it.... but they still like to cruise.

 

 

This is actually probably one of the most entertaining dress threads that we have had in a long time around here! The logic, or attempt at, is way too funny.:D :D :D

[CruisingCatherine]

We love the formal nights. We can't back you up here!

[RevSmith]

Formal nights as theme nights could be optional...I like them because they make the day a tiny bit different and I enjoy all the nicely dressed people walking about. But I don't think it should be mandatory and I don't care if people don't dress up...I feel it is their cruise too and they can do as they wish...how someone else chooses to look certainly doesn't spoil my good time. I couldn't care less.

[KC_fn]

This "controversy" reminds me of churches that have to appease those who prefer traditional music as well as those who want more modern music during services. Many of these churches will offer one traditional service and then a separate contempory service to meet these tastes.

 

Yep. And the churches who try to please everyone, or cling to the past, are stagnant or declining. If you look at the churches that are growing, you'll notice that their services are mostly or entirely contemporary. They understand that times change. ;)

[BobBeaSea]

There are a fair number of posters who say to those who do not wish to dress formally - go to the Windjammer. Horsefeathers!! Those who wish to dress formally should go to the Windjammer and leave the dining room to the rest of us :D :D.

[CaribbeanCrazy]

Another vote for NO FORMAL NIGHTS!!!

[Ohunion Cruzers]

There are a fair number of posters who say to those who do not wish to dress formally - go to the Windjammer. Horsefeathers!! Those who wish to dress formally should go to the Windjammer and leave the dining room to the rest of us :D :D.

 

Oh, but that would be like an oxymoron.

[BobBeaSea]

Oh, but that would be like an oxymoron.

 

I wish you folks would stop using words that 95% of the population doesn't know what they mean :D :).

[Ohunion Cruzers]

I wish you folks would stop using words that 95% of the population doesn't know what they mean :D :).

 

Which word would that be?

[BrianTom]

Maybe down to one formal night a week. It's kinda nice to kick it up a notch, and play Bond.....James Bond that is. You can always wear a suit vs. tux, and there's so many other choices too.

 

Now there is a good sell. If you think of it like that. Just dont drink martinis they way he did in Casino Royal or you will be more than sea sick.

[BobBeaSea]

Which word would that be?

 

"Oh" :D

[shirleygr]

"Oh" :D

LMAO :p :D :rolleyes: