2 possible EBOLA patients on MAGIC

Google it ..is this a hoax ? Stated magic is being escorted home by coast guard from Belize after Belize refused to fly 2 people with symptoms whom are now quarantine. Anyone hear any more is this all made up ?

Here is the link to the story; I don't know if it's legit - earlier tonight there was a hoax regarding Ebola at LAX today.

 

http://belizean.com/belize-confirms-patient-with-ebola-symptoms-on-cruise-ship-off-its-coast-1814/

I read that one if them is a nurse from Dallas...

http://belizean.com/belize-confirms-patient-with-ebola-symptoms-on-cruise-ship-off-its-coast-1814/

I wouldn't't say its a hoax but it is not exactly a confirmed Ebola case either.

 

will be interesting to see how this develops...

 

http://belizean.com/belize-confirms-patient-with-ebola-symptoms-on-cruise-ship-off-its-coast-1814/

 

I don't know anything about the news outlet linked so I'm not sure of their credibility.

 

you can be SURE though that if this is confirmed it will be all over the news tomorrow.

 

I only currently see that story and the second one doesn't load for me.

There's at least one different link posted as a comment on John Heald's facebook too. I imagine the beards are scrambling for a press release? I have not seen anything on a major American news outlet.

I don't know what to believe but found this

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/us-monitors-health-care-worker-aboard-cruise-ship-26262568

She is apparently considered 'very low risk'

http://ambergriscaye.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/topic/64486/gonew/1.html

Edited October 17, 2014 by Katgoesonholiday

Well.. The Magic has returned a day early. It is almost back to TX now. Check out the tracker. http://ships.carnivalentertainment.com/#ship/carnival-magic

I don't know what to believe but found this

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/us-monitors-health-care-worker-aboard-cruise-ship-26262568

 

and there you have it! An ap report from 20 minutes ago with confirmation from the state department.

 

looks like we'll be hearing all about this all day tomorrow!

Reading between the lines....

 

... A healthcare worker who handles a lab sample from Mr Duncan hopped on the cruise before a travel ban was put on those associated with Mr Duncan

 

... Nurse B travelled with a fever and scared everyone so a travel ban was slapped on all those exposed (as it should have been from the outset)

 

... The now cruising healthcare worker hears of this and out of caution self quarantines and notifies relevant authorities (both on and off ship)

 

... all hell breaks loose and even though exposure was 19 days ago and the passenger is showing no symptoms everyone is desperate to get her off the ship and off their hands

 

Personally I think this is an interesting blend of caution and hysteria. CDC should have put a ban on travel right from the outset but I think Carnival, the passenger and the US government have done the right thing here even though it will most likely prove to have been completely unnecessary. It's vital for public confidence that all possible risks, however remote, are dealt with promptly.

I also completely sympathise with Belize's stance on this. They simply don't have the resources to deal with the risk and they need to think of their own people first. I would hope my own country would do the same.

Edited October 17, 2014 by Katgoesonholiday

Reading between the lines....

 

 

 

 

 

... The now cruising healthcare worker hears of this and out of caution self quarantines and notifies relevant authorities (both on and off ship)

 

 

 

... all hell breaks loose and even though exposure was 19 days ago and the passenger is showing no symptoms everyone is desperate to get her off the ship and off their hands

 

alt with promptly.

 

 

The cruising health care worker wouldn't hear of the travel ban to self quarantine, they don't air negative news stories on cruise TVs..

The cruising health care worker wouldn't hear of the travel ban to self quarantine, they don't air negative news stories on cruise TVs..

 

 

 

 

Umm, Internet packages, port stops, so many opportunities to get news.

 

 

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the Washington post is running with it too:

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/17/cruise-ship-carrying-texas-ebola-nurse-refused-entry-in-belize/

The cruising health care worker wouldn't hear of the travel ban to self quarantine, they don't air negative news stories on cruise TVs..

 

I was assuming internet, text from family, friends or work, news sources off ship (port stops) etc. I recently spent almost three weeks travelling with part of that being on a cruise and had no trouble staying on top of what was happening in the world - which is a double edged sword considering I was sitting on a plane about to depart with a route over Eastern Europe when I heard that a plane flying a similar route had just been shot down.

Umm, Internet packages, port stops, so many opportunities to get news.

 

 

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I stand corrected. :)

(I don't get the internet packages, I assumed media blackout was standard cruise mentality.)

The cruising health care worker wouldn't hear of the travel ban to self quarantine, they don't air negative news stories on cruise TVs..

The lab worker would have been contacted onboard; undoubtedly her friends and coworkers knew she had taken a cruise. Simple matter for CDC to find out which one and contact her on the ship. This is not a case of her, or anyone, just hearing the news; CDC is contacting everyone who dealt with Mr. Duncan or his lab samples. Edited October 17, 2014 by cherylandtk

The cruising health care worker wouldn't hear of the travel ban to self quarantine, they don't air negative news stories on cruise TVs..

 

I dont think carnival controls what CNN runs on TV. Yes they can blackout the channel while it has something negative on, but I don't really think they would take the time, until CNN is running a story all day today about The Magic carrying someone with the possibility of having Ebola. The last cruise I was on they kept running the story of Paul Walkers death, which doesn't affect me, but the 17 year old girl in the room next to me was devastated about it because she loved the fast and furious movies. I know thats a stretch but negative news is subjective. If we were both in the sports bar watching a game and The Cowboys beat the packers that could be great news to you and terrible news to me. Again a stretch but I hope you get my point

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/17/us-health-ebola-usa-cruiseship-idUSKCN0I60F520141017

The person was following the CDC as of the time they boarded... self monitoring. The period of time is 21 days of monitoring. Whole thing is scary, it's been 19 days since contact with possible lab substance.

Here you go.

 

http://belizean.com/belize-confirms-patient-with-ebola-symptoms-on-cruise-ship-off-its-coast-1814/

 

The last update from your own source:

"The passenger had voluntarily entered quarantine on board the ship and remains free of any fever or other symptoms of illness."

The last update from your own source:

"The passenger had voluntarily entered quarantine on board the ship and remains free of any fever or other symptoms of illness."

 

Thank god for that

 

It might all be an overreaction but the potential is enormous

 

 

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Common sense would tell me that if I were being required to self monitor for symptoms of Ebola, I should not be flying or cruising :rolleyes:

Common sense would tell me that if I were being required to self monitor for symptoms of Ebola, I should not be flying or cruising :rolleyes:

 

Common sense is an increasingly rare commodity nowadays.

 

I wouldn't be surprised though, if she did check with the CDC beforehand and was told it was fine. She never came into direct contact with Mr Duncan (as reported so far) so would have been considered low risk. Heck - they let one of the women who nursed him directly get on a plane.

 

More facts are needed before blame is apportioned.

Edited October 17, 2014 by Katgoesonholiday

totally agree. unbelievable that people in such a situation would think it was ok to board commercial aircraft or cruise ships.

a cynic would wonder if this is being done to spread concern to gain support to send more to the source of infection?