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#1
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Of course , this will not affect my future plans to cruise ( little will!) , but I found it a bit unsettling.

http://articles.cnn.com/2012-04-30/w...ps?_s=PM:WORLD
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I think terrorists are looking for any target that will give them great publicity and lots of deaths.

Won't change my cruising plans either.

We live by Disneyland--which I also consider a major target--still go there too!
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Originally posted by PatriciaF
I think terrorists are looking for any target that will give them great publicity and lots of deaths.

Won't change my cruising plans either.

We live by Disneyland--which I also consider a major target--still go there too!
Our plans are not changing, either. The article is sobering, but there have thousands of similar articles over the years and the media love to play on people's fears. I know a couple of folks who refuse to go on a cruise now because of the Costa Concordia incident!

Common sense and situational awareness are excellent tools for the traveler. We did not let the threats stop us from going to the Salt Lake City winter Olympics in February 2002, mere months after 9/11. We traveled to the UK (and London) several times in the early 1980s, when the IRA was setting bombs regularly in the Underground and across the country (we were in London when Bobby Sands died after going on a hunger strike in a Northern Ireland prison - talk about a tense situation). We, too, have visited Disneyland and Disney World many, many times. We have been to several places in South Africa and crossed the Zambezi river in small boats between Zambia and Botswana.

My thought is that you can live in fear and sit at home or acknowledge that there are risks involved in doing just about anything and go and enjoy life.
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Agree on not impacting our plans. Another similar article stated the cruise-related plans were discusse by the terrorists in 2006 while this one says 2009.

I'll accept the 2006 date and just feel better.

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I will continue to travel and not let the terrorist win. When it is my time it is my time.
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Originally posted by Grumpy100
I will continue to travel and not let the terrorist win. When it is my time it is my time.
Agree with you 100%. You are taking risks every time you walk out of your home.
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I think it is safe to say that the cruiselines are aware of the potential threats, and have plans to cope with such things.

Of course, that doesn't mean that stuff can't happen, but I suspect that a traveller would be in much more danger taking a taxi from the port to the airport.
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I'm not changing my plans either. After 9/11 there was a specific threat against Disney World during Halloween. We already had reservations and plans in Magic Kingdom for that day and decided to go. It was our best day in Magic Kingdom, ever....
#12
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Carpe Diem!

My motto! Living here in Brazil , which is not the paragon of safety , we just create a constant awareness of our surroundings as a previous poster said.

I did read an interesting book about surviving disaster and it is good to have this awareness and have a plan in the back of your head in case of emergencies. It makes me feel better , rather than feraful , to do this.
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Originally posted by brazilgirl
Carpe Diem!

My motto! Living here in Brazil , which is not the paragon of safety , we just create a constant awareness of our surroundings as a previous poster said.

I did read an interesting book about surviving disaster and it is good to have this awareness and have a plan in the back of your head in case of emergencies. It makes me feel better , rather than feraful , to do this.
I also agree with everything that's been said. Living in fear really isn't "living". Care to share the name of that book? I'm interested in taking a read.
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It is called : " The Unthinkable " by Amanda Ripley...some amazing stories and important ideas.Worth a read.

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They should tighten up a little as you get on to a ship ..
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Here is a link with an excerpt from the book:

http://pt.scribd.com/doc/16523848/Th...Ripley-Excerpt

The author is a writer for Time magazine -very talented. I couldn´t put the book down and I found it to be a truly enlightening , even uplifting read. I beat if you read the excerpt , you might very well order it ( I got it on my Kindle via IPad after reading about it in a magazine).

You can have a drink while reading it , Dano!
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That is so nice!
I used to work in a bookstore...my favorite job of all time! I will , with a slight blush , sya that I do have a knack for sniffing out good reads!

Kim
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Happy to hear an intelligent attitude here. While this is the same al Qaeda that was behind 9/11, their track record has gone down hill ever since. Bin Laden thought he was safe and untouchable. Arrogance at its best. The next thing he knows, the Seals burst into his room, one of his many stupid wives tries to stop them, she's lucky and she just gets shot in the leg. Then, without words from the Seals, he gets one in the chest, and the next one takes off the top of his head (it did). Why don't you think they showed the photos of him? They weren't shooting BB guns! He was a mess! We didn't go there to capture him, we went there to kill him.

We're not playing games with these....uh.... whatever you want to call them.
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