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Old March 9th, 2006, 10:22 PM
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I recently read on the Carnival boards about the problem on Grand Princess back in Feb. After looking on-line for a while, I discovered something I never knew. I'm assuming most people know about the disasterous fire on Diamond (Sapphire) Princess in Japan while it was under construction back in 2002. I was amazed at the photos and the story mainly because i never knew, and learned that the current Diamond Princess was actually supposed to be the Sapphire and the current Sapphire was to be the Diamond (the ship had the fire) Any one else know of any other Princess "disasters" or events gone wrong?
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Old March 9th, 2006, 11:02 PM
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I recently read on the Carnival boards about the problem on Grand Princess back in Feb. After looking on-line for a while, I discovered something I never knew. I'm assuming most people know about the disasterous fire on Diamond (Sapphire) Princess in Japan while it was under construction back in 2002. I was amazed at the photos and the story mainly because i never knew, and learned that the current Diamond Princess was actually supposed to be the Sapphire and the current Sapphire was to be the Diamond (the ship had the fire) Any one else know of any other Princess "disasters" or events gone wrong?
And, your point IS? I don't understand what you are looking for or the reason you are looking for it! Are you simply trying to trash Princess?
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Old March 9th, 2006, 11:08 PM
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none that i can think of,cept that aweful turn the grand did lol,wasnt that bad ,i think most of the cruise lines have had a setback or two,but they always rebound,things just happen sometimes
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Old March 10th, 2006, 12:17 AM
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If you do your research on every major cruise line, they all have had" Disasters". NCL's pride of america semi-sank before it was ever handed over to the cruise line. Every compnay has bad things go wrong from time to time.
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I recently read on the Carnival boards about the problem on Grand Princess back in Feb. After looking on-line for a while, I discovered something I never knew. I'm assuming most people know about the disasterous fire on Diamond (Sapphire) Princess in Japan while it was under construction back in 2002. I was amazed at the photos and the story mainly because i never knew, and learned that the current Diamond Princess was actually supposed to be the Sapphire and the current Sapphire was to be the Diamond (the ship had the fire) Any one else know of any other Princess "disasters" or events gone wrong?
....it was a builder's disaster. Probably the last ships the Japanese build for Princess. Italians are building the latest.
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If you do your research on every major cruise line, they all have had" Disasters". NCL's pride of america semi-sank before it was ever handed over to the cruise line. Every compnay has bad things go wrong from time to time.
and....QM2 had people die when a scaffolding collapsed just before she was finished.
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Carnival Ectasy had a bad fire just after embarkation a few years back. We saw the clips and passenger videos on a US news program. It looked quite bad.
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Did the Carnival board mention this ship?



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Don't forget Titanic - the mother of all cruise shop disaster! There will always be problems - Princess works very hard to keep her ships and her passengers safe. As with United, I will continue to travel with companies that make me feel that they are looking out for my best interest. Too many people get panic stricken when they see things without looking at the big picture. A Princess cheerleader? Maybe, but I've been called much worse. Princess is okay by me.

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Not sure I'd call the turn the Grand took a "disaster" since the ship wasn't damaged. A PR or communications disaster surely, but not a ship disaster.

Don't forget the Golden's transatlantic several years ago when it hit such rough weather that many windows were broken.

And, there was Carnival ship that went out to sea to avoid a hurricane and the photos showed it plowing into the waves and having them break over the front and sides of the ship.
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Old March 10th, 2006, 08:27 AM
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And, there was Carnival ship that went out to sea to avoid a hurricane and the photos showed it plowing into the waves and having them break over the front and sides of the ship.
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Old March 10th, 2006, 08:28 AM
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Every cruise line has problems from time to time. One of Royal Caribbean's ships hit the dock at Costa Maya and was stuck there for several days. Celebrity has had many problems with their Millenium ships and have had to cancel cruises on short notice.

Carnival's first ever cruise ran aground shortly after leaving port. They obviously got past that.
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Old March 10th, 2006, 08:57 AM
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Dont get me wrong here, im nottrying to bash Princess, they're my favorite line by far, I'm just interested in what has gone wrong in the past.
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This is a pleasant wee thread eh ?
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Old March 10th, 2006, 10:01 AM
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The whole point is every cruiseline faces the same challenges. I don't believe any one is immune to difficult situations like heavy seas & weather.

I don't think any one line should be singled out.
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If no one replied to this, it would die a natural death, which it should do.
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and....QM2 had people die when a scaffolding collapsed just before she was finished.
And that was not Cunard's fault, it was the people from the shipyard that built the temporary scaffolding.
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Old March 10th, 2006, 10:38 AM
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How about the QM2 severely damaging one of her pods while leaving Port Everglades. Future cruises had to be cancelled to make repairs. A RCCL ship ran aground on a Caribbean island a few years ago while entering port under the control of a pilot? NCL had a steam explosion on the Norway. No cruise line is immune from possible accidents. However, it still is one of the safest methods of transportaion with passenger accident fatalities almost non-existent.

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