CruisingSince2012 Posted August 23, 2018 #1 Share Posted August 23, 2018 If you have flown on several different airlines, which ones would you recommend or tell people to stay away from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorex Posted August 23, 2018 #2 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Emirates in business, Singapore Airlines in business, Virgin Atlantic in business, the best lounge EVAH in LHR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted August 23, 2018 #3 Share Posted August 23, 2018 If you have flown on several different airlines, which ones would you recommend or tell people to stay away from? Our answer would be complicated because it depends on where we are going, the length of the flight, whether we are flying Economy, Premium Economy, Business or First. But when it comes to domestic airlines (USA) are preferences would be Southwest, Jetblue, and Delta...in that order. United and AA are not among our favorites but future changes in equipment could certainly help change our mind. If flying to Asia, Australia, NZ....we would normally avoid any US Airline. Many of the Asian airlines are excellent. We usually fly Business to those distant places so our decision will often be based on schedule and the actual equipment/seats. I should add that a recent Delta Flight on their new A350 in Business really pleased us with the quality of the seats. But the food was typical Delta airline near garbage...even in expensive Business. As to down under, Qantas, Air New Zealand and Virgin Australia would all be fine for us and superior to any US product. Flying to Europe is a problem. We have not been overly happy with any airline except SAS where we had a fantastic experience in Business. We are soon going to try Air Canada (Business) with our fingers crossed. United's new Polaris Class (Business) might have possibilities once they fully phase in the new seating....but we shall have to wait and see. The European Airlines are hit and miss. The middle eastern airlines are sometimes a great option to Europe if the scheduling works. Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian1 Posted August 23, 2018 #4 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Emirates cattle best.Qatar cattle not good,Iberia cattle rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare GeezerCouple Posted August 23, 2018 #5 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Cathay Pacific First. We used awards, and had The Best Flight Ever. We didn't want to get off when the flight landed, despite a duration of 15+ hours. It was that pleasant and *comfortable*. The only "problem" is that there are only 6 F seat/beds, with each a separate "pod/suite". So... no "sitting next to each other" so we could talk easily or just exchange glances, etc. But there is "companion seating" on the foot rest (a full seat, with seat belt, etc.), and that was reasonably comfortable. (That's to be compared with JL F, where the "companion" had to sit with back against the TV screen... not comfy at all!). We hope to try Singapore Suites, with one of the new "double bed/suites", the ones with the orientation with a window in each, unlike the current/former, where the "double" is in the middle of the plane. The service might equal that of CX, but I doubt it could "exceed" it :) Those awards points are getting good use indeed! We also like JetBlue for inexpensive and pleasant domestic travel. Their flight attendants tend to be phenomenal, given they aren't a pricey airline. We also tried their MINT (flatbed) service once, and that was a very nice surprise, for a not-too-expensive cost. We had decided to come home from a week-long relaxing vacation in the Caribbean, and to "continue the relaxation" on the flight home. There seems to be dynamic pricing, and we grabbed a reasonable fare. GC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingSince2012 Posted August 23, 2018 Author #6 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Flat beds are what we want for our flight to Budapest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruiserBruce Posted August 23, 2018 #7 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Virtually all international carriers have flatbeds in their Business Class, long haul service. The exceptions are very few. If they didn't have flatbeds, that would definitely be an airline to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach1213 Posted August 23, 2018 #8 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I rarely fly international first, but have done so in Qantas, American, BA, and Cathay Pacific. Qantas and Cathay Pacific win for that Business Class - also Qantas, Cathay Pacific, Emirates, and Singapore in my experience Premium Economy - Air New Zealand Plain Ol' Economy - Mostly they're all the same, but probably the same airlines as above. For domestic US economy, Alaska wins hands down in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gardyloo Posted August 23, 2018 #9 Share Posted August 23, 2018 The problem, of course, is that you can have a terrific flight - service, seat comfort, food... - on an airline that otherwise might deliver mediocre service at other times, or you can have an awful flight on an airline that - most of the time - delivers a superior product. It all comes down to anecdotes, the plural of which is NOT data. For me, based on multiple flights: Note I patronize Oneworld airlines more than others. International first class: Cathay Pacific, American (yes, in old 777-200s using "Flagship Suites.") International (long haul) business class: Cathay Pacific, Japan Airlines, Qantas, Swiss International, Iberia International (short haul) business class: British Airways, Finnair, Qantas, Cathay Pacific International premium economy: British Airways International economy: Air New Zealand, SAS, Air Pacific/Fiji US domestic first class: Virgin America (now Alaska), Alaska US domestic business class: American US domestic economy: Alaska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingSince2012 Posted August 23, 2018 Author #10 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I have only flown on U.S. airlines except for one Venice-Paris flight on Air France. My favoritei s Southwest. It's not an accident that they hire funny flight attendants who serve food and drinks when they say they will. Their magazines and Sky Mall catelog are the only ones in the sky worth taking out of seat pockets. Did I meantion two free bags on every flight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbgd Posted August 23, 2018 #11 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Too many factors to pigeonhole the best airline, as others have said some airlines are better at shorthaul then longhaul, others have better longhaul flights on some aircraft but not others, and then you have to segment within that for class of travel too. Overall I'd say Cathay Pacific is my favourite airline, but I've only ever flown them longhaul/midhaul and only in First Class and a sample size of just over half a dozen flights isn't much compared to other airlines. For shorthaul domestic travel in the US it's tough but I rarely have bad experiences on JetBlue. Their ground product is pretty absymal (no lounges, terrible boarding system) but in the air their Mint product is excellent value for money, despite being only on a handful of routes. I've flown them a few times in their "Core" product. basically regular economy where no premium cabin is offered and they have plentiful snacks and drinks and the flight attendants, particularly in Mint, are always excellent. Also PTVS at all seats with free live TV, free high speed wifi, etc. American Airlines is my most regular airline domestically and for standardization of product they're hard to beat. At my home airport of JFK I always get access to a separate, private check-in area which leads to the front of the security line and their Flagship Lounge is excellent, especially after befriending one of their bartenders after a spate of regular travel. On some flights from JFK they offer decent flat beds on domestic flights etc. Honourable mention to British Airways, whom I have had top/mid tier status for 15yrs now...their longhaul business and first class products are almost 100% consistent and between my home airport of JFK (and many other US airports) and the UK their overall business class product is excellent. Full meal service on the ground, fully flat bed in the air so can sleep all the way to the UK, then shower/massage/breakfast in the lounge upon arrival. Hard to better that for a short overnight flight. I have only flown on U.S. airlines except for one Venice-Paris flight on Air France. My favoritei s Southwest. It's not an accident that they hire funny flight attendants who serve food and drinks when they say they will. Their magazines and Sky Mall catelog are the only ones in the sky worth taking out of seat pockets. Did I meantion two free bags on every flight? ...and for some of us who travel regularly Southwest is probably the least desirable option. I've taken maybe 1000+ flights and Southwest hasn't once been the best option for me so I've never flown them. The comedy routine gets tiresome, the lack of interlining to other carriers, the lack of decent route network from many places, the lack of premium cabin, the lack of partners, the ridiculous boarding process, the lousy frequent flyer program, etc. WN works for many people but not for others. I get three checked bags free on my airline of choice and have never needed more than two, even when I emigrated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach1213 Posted August 23, 2018 #12 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Honourable mention to British Airways, whom I have had top/mid tier status for 15yrs now...their longhaul business and first class products are almost 100% consistent and between my home airport of JFK (and many other US airports) and the UK their overall business class product is excellent. Full meal service on the ground, fully flat bed in the air so can sleep all the way to the UK, then shower/massage/breakfast in the lounge upon arrival. Hard to better that for a short overnight flight. BA gets a lot of flack, but I fly them many times each year, both regionally and longhaul, in both Business and Economy, and have almost never had a bad experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fbgd Posted August 23, 2018 #13 Share Posted August 23, 2018 BA gets a lot of flack, but I fly them many times each year, both regionally and longhaul, in both Business and Economy, and have almost never had a bad experience. Exactly. I've flown BA hundreds of times and the number of flights I've stepped off that were even mediocre are very few and I find their cabin crew to be largely excellent. BA have done some things that are really annoying: 1) Switch to 30" pitch in European business class 2) No real innovation in their longhaul business class seat since 1999/2000! In that time they've gone from the best business class seat in the world to one of the most maligned. Having said that I do still find Club World upstairs on the 747 to be very comfortable and pleasant! 3) Complete overhaul of shorthaul catering, making everything in economy for purchase and an overall reduction in business class catering. 4) Whilst not affecting me they have densified 777s in economy and the 787-8 seating in economy was universally panned. But on the same token they have made some genuine enhancements: 1) Introducing a separate security channel straight into the Galleries First lounge at LHR T5. 2) Greatly improved catering in Club World 3) Huge refurbishments at JFK T7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancal Posted August 23, 2018 #14 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Too broad a question to comment. International or regional? Mainline or discount? Business class or economy? Regular economy, Economy plus, or consolidator tickets? They all make a big difference on your experience and perceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingSince2012 Posted August 23, 2018 Author #15 Share Posted August 23, 2018 (edited) For some of us who travel regularly Southwest is probably the least desirable option. I've taken maybe 1000+ flights and Southwest hasn't once been the best option for me so I've never flown them. The comedy routine gets tiresome, the lack of interlining to other carriers, the lack of decent route network from many places, the lack of premium cabin, the lack of partners, the ridiculous boarding process, the lousy frequent flyer program, etc. WN works for many people but not for others. I get three checked bags free on my airline of choice and have never needed more than two, even when I emigrated... The lack of premium seating is only a "problem" for picky or luxury travelers IMO. The reason for that is a nice tradeoff: few delays and cancellations. I read a few years ago Southwest has one of hte best on-time rates because they only fly Boeing 737 aircraft, which results in on-plane crew not having to make adjustments or changes related to differences in the aircraft itself. I am not sure what this means, but it is true Southwest has a higher on-time rate than big airlines with many sizes and types of airplanes. Edited August 23, 2018 by CruisingSince2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingSince2012 Posted August 23, 2018 Author #16 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Wow, I had no idcea how much people get in premium seats. I thoughjt they were just bigger seats wiht plush cushions, better armrests, and more legroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Hlitner Posted August 23, 2018 #17 Share Posted August 23, 2018 BA gets a lot of flack, but I fly them many times each year, both regionally and longhaul, in both Business and Economy, and have almost never had a bad experience. We are not big fans of their rear-facing Business Class seats. It is an out-of-date concept. As to European/domestic Business class it is abysmal on most European airlines. Hank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingSince2012 Posted August 23, 2018 Author #18 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I had never heard of rear-fracing airplane seats. When were they an in-date concept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare GeezerCouple Posted August 23, 2018 #19 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I had never heard of rear-fracing airplane seats. When were they an in-date concept? Not sure about dates, but as our TA warned us, lest we claim "we don't care about direction once we are in a metal tube flying through space", etc... he sent us photos of how in these seats, folks sitting facing both directions often are facing almost directly at someone else who is facing right back at them, with no possible visual barrier. And possibly more than one such "other person". At least, that was in one business class configuration he sent us. :eek: That killed it for us! GC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Gardyloo Posted August 24, 2018 #20 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I had never heard of rear-fracing airplane seats. When were they an in-date concept?Still are. British Airways Club World (note it's the window seats that face aft.) American Airlines (refurbished 777-200s) United Airlines (being introduced) Etihad Airlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingSince2012 Posted August 24, 2018 Author #21 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Ugh, passengers can't look straight at the TV on American. They built them at the wrong angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare GeezerCouple Posted August 24, 2018 #22 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Ugh, passengers can't look straight at the TV on American. They built them at the wrong angle. I'd hope the screen pulls out once one is seated and ready to watch. There are several F seats on various international airlines that do this. The view is "straight on" once one is watching. GC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R & T Posted August 24, 2018 #23 Share Posted August 24, 2018 For us SAS was terrible! Seats are small, staff was rude, everything other than one coke or juice is for $$ . It was a very long nine hour flight. Will not fly with them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingSince2012 Posted August 24, 2018 Author #24 Share Posted August 24, 2018 While eating supper on on a river cruise, I sat with two women who were crusing together. The woman sitting next to me said Iceland Air has seats with curved backs, making a banana shape with her hand, so it was a very umcomfortable international flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrossBluePerchance Posted August 24, 2018 #25 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Air Canada: "We're not happy until you're not happy." Very pleased with Aeroflot, (Russia), and Jet Airways (out of Mumbai).....also had a great flight to/from Jozi with South African Airways, (but have heard others say they were unhappy with them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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