Crew parties in passenger venues??

[kitty9]

I very staunchly stick to this and if Celebrity knew there were a whole bunch of people (passengers) missing out on a nights entertainment and dancing it should have been sorted out.

And yes it affected me I didnt want to go to bed at midnight !!

some folks who replied might enjoy that going early at night retiring at 10pm for example !!

Not me !!

 

I think you're really overstating this. I'm wondering, how many people are in this "bunch"? And, you're stretching the truth by saying that you missed out on a night's entertainment. No way is that truthful. The Navigator Club on Mercury or Cosmos on Millennium are not the only venues on either ship. You were not denied a night's entertainment. You were denied entrance into one venue, late at night for ONE night. You were not denied entertainment for that entire night. BTW, did that party for the crew start at midnight? I don't think that's a lot to ask that you give up one evening of not being allowed into Cosmos or Navigator's Club. One evening in 14, boy, you sure let a small thing stick in your craw. And like I said, you were not denied entertainment for the entire evening, perhaps a few hours at best. So what? Why not sit out under the stars and relax and enjoy that? Why not go to the casino? Why not sit in the casino bar, a place that's usually busy until 3am? See, it's not like you didn't have anything to do.

[orianagal]

I very staunchly stick to this and if Celebrity knew there were a whole bunch of people (passengers) missing out on a nights entertainment and dancing it should have been sorted out.

And yes it affected me I didnt want to go to bed at midnight !!

some folks who replied might enjoy that going early at night retiring at 10pm for example !!

Not me !!

 

I think you're really overstating this. I'm wondering, how many people are in this "bunch"? And, you're stretching the truth by saying that you missed out on a night's entertainment. No way is that truthful. The Navigator Club on Mercury or Cosmos on Millennium are not the only venues on either ship. You were not denied a night's entertainment. You were denied entrance into one venue, late at night for ONE night. You were not denied entertainment for that entire night. BTW, did that party for the crew start at midnight? I don't think that's a lot to ask that you give up one evening of not being allowed into Cosmos or Navigator's Club. One evening in 14, boy, you sure let a small thing stick in your craw. And like I said, you were not denied entertainment for the entire evening, perhaps a few hours at best. So what? Why not sit out under the stars and relax and enjoy that? Why not go to the casino? Why not sit in the casino bar, a place that's usually busy until 3am? See, it's not like you didn't have anything to do.

 

 

darcie thanks for your comments

it did matter at the time when we were enjoying ourselves

and I would go back on Celebrity I think overall they were a good company and I would try another ship as they are very beautiful !:)

I appreciate your feedback

 

happy sailings

[GlendaleCruiser]

I'm sorry but you were told ahead of time it was a crew only party and you were not invited and should have stayed away from it. The crew didn't get to go to other functions on the ship that passengers only attended except to serve them and passengers should NOT expect to go to crew functions.

 

That is my opinion and I will be interested in what others think. By the way I'm not a great fan of Celebrity so I'm not defending my favorite cruise line.

 

Have a great next cruise.

I think the OP has a right to be miffed. They PAID to be on the ship and be entertained. OP clearly stated that they were told the crew had already had two parties in their own quarters, and that there was no entertainment that night for passengers. Why should passengers pay big money for a cruise to stay in their rooms so the crew, who is paid to be on board can use the passengers' entertainment venues. OP also stated that there was nothing for the passengers. Why not? No music, no bands for them?

[orianagal]

I have been on cruises where quite a number of public venues were totally closed to those not associated with a group(s) on board and we made the best of it. There have been cruises where the largest lounge/dance club was closed to anyone but that group for at least 5 of the 12 nights. Did I complain? No! Was I a bit upset that these venues were closed to all but those in that group? Yes, but not enough to come on these boards and complain. Stuff happens and you make the best of it.

 

I'd be much more upset if my cruise had been totally canceled at the last minute due to a private charter. I was "thrown" off a cruise because Oprah Winfrey decided to charter the ship for herself. So here were hundreds of passengers, with already paid for airfare to Europe, with no cruise. How'd you like that? At least you had a cruise.

 

And may I point out that this was ONE night of many on this cruise, so why the OP is so upset over one stinking night baffles me. It's not like the entire cruise was ruined, at least not ruined enough to cause a rant. I'm guessing this ship was either Mercury or Millennium, and they are known not to have a rocking great time of parties all night long---Celebrity ships are known to be rather passive. Plus, they needed the largest venue on the ship for a crew party, and most of Celebrity's music venues are not conducive to large parties, so their ONLY real option was the disco on Deck 11. If the OP wants to party every night, all night, Celebrity is NOT the line to do this. Might I suggest either Carnival or Royal Caribbean if drinking and partying is what you mostly desire in a cruise.

 

And may I also point out that seeing this was a party for crew, how could they have other venues open and staffed? How does one decide what crew can go to this party and who cannot? And again, the casino is open, the casino bar is open and there is generally some kind of music up on the top deck. It's not like they totally closed down the ship, for heaven's sake. It's not like they forced every single passenger to go to their cabins and locked them inside until morning. Sheesh

 

For some reason, it seems like the OP likes to argue on points here on CC, and nothing anyone will say will sway her opinion, so perhaps we should just ignore. It's apparent that nearly everyone here disagrees with the OP's opinion, but we're not going to dissuade her.

 

 

Hi Darcie

well not sure about arguing??? but perhaps discussions yes !! ha ha:D

is that the lifeboat thread of interest you are referring? where we were all discussing the lifeboat capacity etc? not just me but quite a few folks.??

I think alot of people got some good infos out of that thread and it might interest you some folks put up some pics of interest as well. they are interesting to look at and the thread eventuated into one of complete interest.:) go enjoy its most interesting !!

Best Regards

smooth and happy sailings

[orianagal]

I think the OP has a right to be miffed. They PAID to be on the ship and be entertained. OP clearly stated that they were told the crew had already had two parties in their own quarters, and that there was no entertainment that night for passengers. Why should passengers pay big money for a cruise to stay in their rooms so the crew, who is paid to be on board can use the passengers' entertainment venues. OP also stated that there was nothing for the passengers. Why not? No music, no bands for them?

 

 

thankyou for your reply. I appreciate it !!

[Alexis]

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I have to wonder what your motivation is regarding posting this event: being bothered so much about being denied ONE ship area for ONE evening on a 14 night cruise, that you waited a year to bring it up.

 

I was also just going to post that until I read your question to the OP. :confused:

 

To the OP:It could not have been that traumatic if you waited a minimum of 8 plus months and I imagine it was much longer than that to post this. :rolleyes:

It is done, I think you should move on.

The crew might have been given a party for a special reason that was no ones business but theirs.

You had no right to try and sneak in as you did. :(

 

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Originally Posted by GlendaleCruiser

I think the OP has a right to be miffed. They PAID to be on the ship and be entertained. OP clearly stated that they were told the crew had already had two parties in their own quarters, and that there was no entertainment that night for passengers. Why should passengers pay big money for a cruise to stay in their rooms so the crew, who is paid to be on board can use the passengers' entertainment venues. OP also stated that there was nothing for the passengers. Why not? No music, no bands for them?

 

We as passengers have no right to decide/dictate when and where the crew has a party or how many they can have in their private quarters. That is up to the Captain, or the Officers under him. He is their boss.

I have done 27 cruises. Never have I seen where there is no place to go on a ship to listen to music. Only 1 area? There are bars, piano bars, lounges, discos, etc.

So the OP had to stay in her room? :rolleyes:

[kitty9]

I think the OP has a right to be miffed. They PAID to be on the ship and be entertained. OP clearly stated that they were told the crew had already had two parties in their own quarters, and that there was no entertainment that night for passengers. Why should passengers pay big money for a cruise to stay in their rooms so the crew, who is paid to be on board can use the passengers' entertainment venues. OP also stated that there was nothing for the passengers. Why not? No music, no bands for them?

 

 

I think that's an exaggeration. This was ONE venue for ONE evening late at night. There were other venues for the OP and other passengers to go to, so saying that the passengers had absolutely nothing to do is incorrect. They still had the casino, casino bar and other venues. The crew did not take up the entire ship for this party. It was one venue, leaving the rest of the ship available for the passengers. Plus, NO ONE said the passengers had to stay in their cabins. That would be akin to kidnapping, and that did not happen. Passengers were free to come and go in any area of the ship EXCEPT for that one venue, either the Cosmos or Navigator lounge, depending on the ship.

[Bowie MeMe]

You asked for opinions and that is what you are getting. Your posts make you seem like a trouble maker who pouts for over a year because you did not get your way. What other rules did you decide not to follow?Miss Manners says like the security guard -- Please go away.

 

Why are your bringing this up now? Please I'd really like to know why you have nothing better to think about. Anyway have a nice life.

[G'ma]

Oh, for crying out loud. Get over it.

 

Those folk live onboard that ship and have celebrations and events just like the rest of us.

 

There are a hundred other things to do on a cruise ship if a venue is closed for an hour or two.

 

Hard to believe you are from "down under" somewhere. You gripe and complain like an American.

 

You made a big deal out of absolutely nothing.

[iheartbda]

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[Alexis]

Oh' date=' for crying out loud. Get over it.

 

Those folk live onboard that ship and have celebrations and events just like the rest of us.

 

There are a hundred other things to do on a cruise ship if a venue is closed for an hour or two.

 

Hard to believe you are from "down under" somewhere. [b']You gripe and complain like an American. [/b]

You made a big deal out of absolutely nothing.

 

I truly thought I was going to die on my first one and I still never complained.

I have loved all of 26 of 27 cruises on all lines.

I complained on one of them when we had 24 hour constant banging over our head for 7 nights. They could not find the source and had no place to put us.

Americans are not all whiners. :(

Actually, I did sail on a ship with about 400 New Jersey passengers in 2002 and they complained about everything.

I, as a New Yorker kept my mouth shut on that cruise so no one would think I was with them. :D :D :D

[orianagal]

I dont find Americans are whiners either Ive met some great ones on cruises terrific infact !!

[orianagal]

You asked for opinions and that is what you are getting. Your posts make you seem like a trouble maker who pouts for over a year because you did not get your way. What other rules did you decide not to follow?Miss Manners says like the security guard -- Please go away.

 

Why are your bringing this up now? Please I'd really like to know why you have nothing better to think about. Anyway have a nice life.

 

What other rules?

please elaborate Bowie me me

what rules are you referring to

question me all you like seeing you cut people off at the knees

I dont have to worry about you honey.

[Alexis]

quote: We as passengers have no right to decide/dictate when and where the crew has a party or how many they can have in their private quarters. That is up to the Captain

 

 

Alexis ... sometimes not always the right decisions are made by a company and sorry but where do the paying passengers go...people who might take all the nights of their cruise as an enjoyment and regard as special.

On that particular sailing you had alot of people ready to dance and enjoy after midnight. Why would I lie about the situation.

And gosh Ive moved on...its just a subject and I got a reaction to..no big deal.:)

also You could count a good 100 plus paying passengers disadvantaged in this case and one dance party cancelled out.

Even some TAs involved thought it was rubbish what happened.

So what do we do with passengers who are entitled to enjoy themselves ?Just lump them all in a cabin maybe with a bottle of wine infact the South American passengers were told they would be sent some drinks to say sorry to them from the company and they never got them.

The fact that they even got a sorry was a miracle

Its just become such a big deal now that I added it to the board and Im such a bad guy now for adding it as a post ...crikey !!! ;)

 

 

All this time has gone by and this is still bothering you?

Something so trivial as a one night crew party that has eaten at you for this long can not be good for your health.

If it were a one night Officers party would you have been be so annoyed?

One must learn to go with the flow and roll with the changes that can and do happen on a cruise ship. There can be itinerary changes, Ports missed, many things that can make one become annoyed. But, we get over that in a matter of a minute, an hour or a day.

I think if you let this keep eating at you, you will get an ulcer for nothing. :(

They will not compensate passengers for a crew's party in a lounge when there are other bars, casino and places to go on ships. ;)

Have a good night. ;)

[robbggo]

this would have appeared unfair at the time and I wish you better luck on future cruises where indeed there are rights as a cruise fare payer.

I would be interested to see the passenger terms and condition sheet regarding the cruise in question because passengers are expected to be provided entertainment in a paid fare.

that is why they cruise !

you were told there would be nothing else available on that night.

I should be upset as well.

[euro cruiser]

I am fascinated by this thread. I have long been impressed by the cruise line-specific advocacy I have seen on Cruise Critic, but here I'm seeing industry advocacy, people who are unwilling/unable to accept negative comments about any line, not even their favorite.

 

If the OP posted a strongly negative review of an entire cruise I could understand ignoring or discounting their perspective, or pointing out that overwhelming negativity brings into question their entire review. That isn't the case here. He/she described a generally pleasant trip marred by this one event, yet many respondents have attacked them for expressing their discontent.

 

The "critic" part of Cruise Critic feels like a misnomer in this thread.

[phoenix1181]

I am fascinated by this thread. I have long been impressed by the cruise line-specific advocacy I have seen on Cruise Critic, but here I'm seeing industry advocacy, people who are unwilling/unable to accept negative comments about any line, not even their favorite.

 

If the OP posted a strongly negative review of an entire cruise I could understand ignoring or discounting their perspective, or pointing out that overwhelming negativity brings into question their entire review. That isn't the case here. He/she described a generally pleasant trip marred by this one event, yet many respondents have attacked them for expressing their discontent.

 

The "critic" part of Cruise Critic feels like a misnomer in this thread.

 

To me it appears people are responding to the OP's refusal to accept the opinions that s/he requested but doesn't really want if they differ. The OP has shown here and elsewhere on CC they like to defend their opinion to the point of annoyance.

 

It's difficult for most of us to believe there were NO other venues available that evening and, even if that is true, s/he should not have gone to that venue knowing it was closed to all but invited guests. The fact that those guests were crew members is actually irrelevant.

[Moeve]

Hey OP this isn't mean't to put you down but are you really sure of your facts?? We also did one of those downunder cruises last year and X hosted some travel agents from Aus and NZ on these cruises that were not completely sold out. This also mean't there were PRIVATE EVENTS for the agents and crew only. Is it possible that this was this kind of event? I would also not have know they were onboard until I spoke to a neighbour one early morning.

 

I hate to say it but it is legitimate for the line to have private events and close off certain rooms. I bet the Cruise director did offer an alternative sort of entertainment - it obviously just didn't suit the OP at the time who was then upset.

[Gathina]

What's the problem..I don't get it. The sign said "private function". The private function was a crew party and you weren't invited...and they obviously didn't want you or other pax to be there.

 

It's not any different than if it had been closed off for a wedding, etc. I think you were just upset because it was crew and you weren't allowed.

 

Allowed to use any room for your use? Yes, but not the ones that say "closed for private function."

 

Hello everyone

I would like to hear your opinions/comments of a situation that occurred with Passengers on a Celebrity liner last year where basically the passengers were misinformed and treated in a not so nice manner.

I was a passenger from Sydney for a 14 night cruise to NZ last year.

The cruise was very nice- lovely passengers and crew & a very nice atmosphere and what would seem a well run organisation. Each night a rather well sized attendance at the ships main nightclub/disco where we all enjoyed ourselves very much dancing and socialising.

Alot of other passengers enjoyed the Casino and its bar and after would come up to the disco as well.

We very much enjoyed dancing and the parties run there by the entertainment staff in the disco were very impressive.

One day we looked at the ships daily which read Disco closed for private function. We all thought a bit odd and thought well surely it possible to go and sit in part of the Club and have a refreshment as it was a very large nightclub. I then found out that the crew were having a party in the passengers nightclub and that we (passengers) were not permitted.

Funnily on some other companies this would be unheard of to disadvantage the passengers like this as the crew have their own party venues and also that I had been informed that the crew had so far had 2 big parties with a band in their own crew bar/venue as well as 2 nights off in Sydney to go partying on this particular cruise !

A bar manager tried to get us permission to go to this party , so we could just sit there and listen to the music as nothing else was prepared for the passengers. And he was told no.

Later that night my friends and I went upstairs and sat very quietly away from what seemed to be a very big party with band disco etc for the crew and very promptly we were demanded to leave by security. even though we were miles away from all of the crew and just wanting to find something to do after midnight when everything else had closed.

I was personally walked to the lift by a female security guard !! who completely invaded my space and hovered over me.

(does this sound ridiculous or what!)

I understand some lovely folks from Sth America had been told by crew "you are not welcome here you have to leave now "

I understand about 10 passengers approached the reception desk to ask for an explanation and the female at the desk said to them "well we live on this ship as well " !! I had a meeting with the hotel manager on behalf of some of the upset passengers and she talked about the crew for 20 minutes and didnt once mention the passengers or if they had missed out on a night of entertainment in their passenger disco (which had been paid for in our cruise fare !)

I had been told "well in the Terms and Conditions we (crew)are allowed to use any room we like for our personal use."

Funny I have the Ts and Cs and I still dont see that clause.

I thought the whole mismangement of this very strange and belittling to passengers by the way we had been treated. And I wondered if Head Office had any idea of what had gone on. I wrote along with other passengers to Celebrity Head Office and they basically told me,.. tough luck !!

I have travelled even Cunard HAL P&O where if there is a crew party the passengers have been allowed to stay if it is in the passenger venue.

HAL were very welcoming for unbelievably good christmas parties with all crew Captain officers and passengers really having a great time at the Crows nest and other parties where you are treated like family.

I certainly dont begrudge the Crew a party but with the right procedures and considerations in mind and with the PASSENGERS obvious needs in mind !!!

 

Anyway, I just thought the whole deal was very dodgy and I welcome your thoughts or similar experiences if any.

Cheers,

[PattyG12]

I truly thought I was going to die on my first one and I still never complained.

I have loved all of 26 of 27 cruises on all lines.

I complained on one of them when we had 24 hour constant banging over our head for 7 nights. They could not find the source and had no place to put us.

Americans are not all whiners. :(

Actually, I did sail on a ship with about 400 New Jersey passengers in 2002 and they complained about everything.

I, as a New Yorker kept my mouth shut on that cruise so no one would think I was with them. :D :D :D

 

Alexis, I cruised out of Baltimore once and listened to a group of people that WHINED the whole time because the Grandeur was late getting to port, so we were several hours late leaving. However, we each received OBC ... But some people were still complaining the day we left. Some people complain all the time and are never happy ....

[Traveler353]

OP: The words "private function" pretty much sums it up. I have seen them on every cruise that I have been on. I have never felt the need to crash these "private" parties.

[Jimsedge]

OP, at the end of your initial post you asked for comments from others. Looks like you got it. Unfortunately, it seems like you were looking for others to take your side and when they didn't, you got defensive. You are entitled to your feelings, but when others disagree, instead of trying to shove your feelings down their throats, just accept the fact that everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

 

I happen to disagree with you. I agree with others that Private is private. I tend to feel that some people (not accusing you of being one) forget that the crew members are people too. I suggest you read a book titled Cruise Confidential by Brian David Bruns. While it shows that the crew finds ways to unwind, the way they are sometimes treated by passengers and some of the facilities available for them to unwind is eye-opening (and by the way, since this book is about Carnival, it does give an example of them doing the same thing as you experienced).

[Alexis]

Alexis, I cruised out of Baltimore once and listened to a group of people that WHINED the whole time because the Grandeur was late getting to port, so we were several hours late leaving. However, we each received OBC ... But some people were still complaining the day we left. Some people complain all the time and are never happy ....

 

And here is one still complaining over a year later?

This is what I question and do not understand. :confused:

It is not going to change after all this time.

[operafan]

 

Again I accept your comments though I am looking at the total facts not just that I missed out on a night of fun !! That they made the wrong VENUE CHOICE.

If we substituted the word crew and I had said ok passengers private group had the DISCO from 8pm to 4am. no other admittance Im sure there would still be some upset people.

Imagine if they did that on a Carnival ship. see where Im coming from?

Cheers

 

After reading this entire thread I've just got to say.... GET A GRIP! The crew party was in the disco. So what? It lasted a long time. So what? You felt it your right to crash the party, they tossed you out. Perfectly reasonable to me. Get over it.

[gerif]

I did read through this thread but quit keeping score. However, since the OP asked for opinions, I'll give mine as well. It was prenoticed that the venue would be CLOSED for a PRIVATE function. You were not invited to said private function. You had absolutely no right at all to crash this function, nor did anyone else. To be offended at being removed from the private function that you knowingly crashed is beyond belief. It is totally immaterial who was or was not invited - YOU clearly were not and had no business being there.

 

To still be harping on this a year later - well, I'm speechless on that one.