Mixed signals about staying dressed up after dinner..

[Copper10-8]

What's that made out of? The total visual effect is a positive one, but if that material is the same as my BDUs I'd say "no thank you!" Thick, heavy, rough ... not a good thing against such lovely skin, IMHO! :eek:

 

The Rev's got BDU's??:eek:

[RevNeal]

The Rev's got BDU's??:eek:

 

Surprised? ;)

[bonsat]

forgive my ignorance, but what's a bdu?

 

by the way, i have the exact same dress in blue. i plan to wear it with pearls and boots on the second formal night.

[Zappa Fan]

forgive my ignorance, but what's a bdu?

 

by the way, i have the exact same dress in blue. i plan to wear it with pearls and boots on the second formal night.

 

Love it!;)

[momatibm]

Greg, so what is a BDU?????

[Copper10-8]

Surprised? ;)

 

Kinda, somehow I don't see you low-crawling around Mosquito, I mean Mesquite, on a special ops mission from God

[Copper10-8]

Greg, so what is a BDU?????

 

Battle Dress Uniform; the camouflage uniform used, until recently, by the armed forces (and some law enforcement units) of the USA, readily available for purchase by civilians in Army surplus stores. The lady in Pipedreams pic is wearing what is known as the 'Woodland camouflage' pattern

[momatibm]

Thanks Copper -- being and Army Wife -- never heard that

[bonsat]

got news for you, the junior departments feature all sorts of clothes in green, blue and gray camoflage materials. i have seen bikinis, board shorts, capris, skirts of all lengths, tee shirts and shoes to name a few. this could be smart casual on carnival during spring break.

[Luckybee]

what do you mean by problem? people shouldn't do what they want, they should do what YOU want?

 

Your answer is exactly what imho is the epitome of the problem. In my line of work I see many people who "do what they want" without any regard for the way it affects others, or what the "rules" are, or the potential consequences to themselves. In the past few years the number of younger people(in teens and 20's) who seem to think this way is increasing rapidly. It isnt a matter of "they should do what YOU want?", rather it is a simple matter of understanding that the words "suggested dress code" is a polite way of saying this is what you are expected to wear. But with the thought processes or lack thereof the subtlety seems to be missed on a number of people. Its as though if you dont hit people over the head with something nowadays they simply dont get it.

 

Sorry( I know Im going to trample into dangerous waters here but...) I blame the parents in many cases. The number of kids I see who have been given no parameters or direction by the parents is mind-boggling. They let their kids decide what they "want to do when they want to do it", and few if any social skills are taught. These are the same parents who then wonder why little Johnny or Janey is then in trouble for this or that and is completely incapable of following rules/laws/or any other societal expectation.

 

Is it really any wonder that people dont know how to dress, and say things like " I should be able to do what I want". Their entire life is based on just that !

 

I am by no means a conformist. I tend to do what I want to do probably far more than most. That said for me doing what I want to do in this situation would be very easy. If dh and I had an aversion to dressing up, I would simply choose a cruise line that didnt have those expectations. Originally, we were going to book Celebrity for our Alaska cruise. Then we found out about their restrictive smoking policies ie : cant smoke on your balcony. Since dh and I are still smokers we decided that that wouldnt work for us. It wouldnt have been fair or appropriate for us to book then go on board sneaking to smoke on our balcony(even though we would have been in a very large suite and probably could have gotten away with it). Checked with Silverseas and didnt like their itinerary...Ok so that wasnt for us either. NCL had a great itinerary but we couldnt get the particular suite we wanted(and had we gone on NCL we wouldnt have been dressing formally since it isnt in the suggested dress code :)RSSC, didnt have Alaska when we are going. Ok so that wasnt for us either. Booked with Royal but kept getting a run around from reservations about a number of things and decided that although we did enjoy our cruise with them we were totally unhappy with a number of things in the "service" end of both the booking and onboard that we needed to look elsewhere. So here we are. We are doing exactly what we want. We found a cruise that seemingly fits our plans, our style, our expectations ! Hopefully we'll be right. If not we will simply do what we want to do and book elsewhere next time. It isnt that hard to "do what you want to do" and still respect those around you so long as you find a good match when there are are plenty of options available .

[suse]

Your answer is exactly what imho is the epitome of the problem. In my line of work I see many people who "do what they want" without any regard for the way it affects others, or what the "rules" are, or the potential consequences to themselves. In the past few years the number of younger people(in teens and 20's) who seem to think this way is increasing rapidly. It isnt a matter of "they should do what YOU want?", rather it is a simple matter of understanding that the words "suggested dress code" is a polite way of saying this is what you are expected to wear. But with the thought processes or lack thereof the subtlety seems to be missed on a number of people. Its as though if you dont hit people over the head with something nowadays they simply dont get it.

 

Sorry( I know Im going to trample into dangerous waters here but...) I blame the parents in many cases. The number of kids I see who have been given no parameters or direction by the parents is mind-boggling. They let their kids decide what they "want to do when they want to do it", and few if any social skills are taught. These are the same parents who then wonder why little Johnny or Janey is then in trouble for this or that and is completely incapable of following rules/laws/or any other societal expectation.

 

Is it really any wonder that people dont know how to dress, and say things like " I should be able to do what I want". Their entire life is based on just that !

 

I am by no means a conformist. I tend to do what I want to do probably far more than most. That said for me doing what I want to do in this situation would be very easy. If dh and I had an aversion to dressing up, I would simply choose a cruise line that didnt have those expectations. Originally, we were going to book Celebrity for our Alaska cruise. Then we found out about their restrictive smoking policies ie : cant smoke on your balcony. Since dh and I are still smokers we decided that that wouldnt work for us. It wouldnt have been fair or appropriate for us to book then go on board sneaking to smoke on our balcony(even though we would have been in a very large suite and probably could have gotten away with it). Checked with Silverseas and didnt like their itinerary...Ok so that wasnt for us either. NCL had a great itinerary but we couldnt get the particular suite we wanted(and had we gone on NCL we wouldnt have been dressing formally since it isnt in the suggested dress code :)RSSC, didnt have Alaska when we are going. Ok so that wasnt for us either. Booked with Royal but kept getting a run around from reservations about a number of things and decided that although we did enjoy our cruise with them we were totally unhappy with a number of things in the "service" end of both the booking and onboard that we needed to look elsewhere. So here we are. We are doing exactly what we want. We found a cruise that seemingly fits our plans, our style, our expectations ! Hopefully we'll be right. If not we will simply do what we want to do and book elsewhere next time. It isnt that hard to "do what you want to do" and still respect those around you so long as you find a good match when there are are plenty of options available .

But I can't figure out which one you booked? It's pretty good you didn't book with Celebrity though. I think you probably would not have been ablt to "sneak a smoke and get away with it" in a suite.

Well, good luck.:)

[Luckybee]

But I can't figure out which one you booked? It's pretty good you didn't book with Celebrity though. I think you probably would not have been ablt to "sneak a smoke and get away with it" in a suite.

Well, good luck.:)

 

Hi Suse

 

Sorry...I had posted what we had booked on another thread and got myself confused. We booked our first cruise with HAL on the Zuiderdam in a penthouse suite.

 

The suite we were looking at on Celebrity isnt near anyone else and has a huge deck...thats why I said we prob could have gotten away with it....but why would we want to was what we decided. Far easier to find the right fit and do "exactly what we want " :)

[suse]

Hi Suse

 

Sorry...I had posted what we had booked on another thread and got myself confused. We booked our first cruise with HAL on the Zuiderdam in a penthouse suite.

 

The suite we were looking at on Celebrity isnt near anyone else and has a huge deck...thats why I said we prob could have gotten away with it....but why would we want to was what we decided. Far easier to find the right fit and do "exactly what we want " :)

thanks for the reply. You will most certainly have a great cruise because you seem very nice to me.

[RevNeal]

Kinda, somehow I don't see you low-crawling around Mosquito, I mean Mesquite, on a special ops mission from God

 

My Dad retired as a high-ranking USAF Officer. Up until he died, when he would go out hunting and fishing he always wore BDUs: both long pants and field shorts, t-shirts, jackets, etc. Usually in Olive drab, though he also wore dark blue and camo. When I went hunting and fishing with him (as I did every year, several times a year, until just before his death) I wore them too; now that Dad has died, I've inherited all of his military issue and post-military purchased BDU garb. They're great for outdoor activity. My favorite cold-weather coat is a WEP Dad gave me for Christmas the year before he died; good thing, because i refuse to wear his MA1 into harsh environments.

[Seavoyage]

:eek:It's fun to dress up!

Stay dressy - it's only a couple nights for goodness sake!

[Copper10-8]

My Dad retired as a high-ranking USAF Officer. Up until he died, when he would go out hunting and fishing he always wore BDUs: both long pants and field shorts, t-shirts, jackets, etc. Usually in Olive drab, though he also wore dark blue and camo. When I went hunting and fishing with him (as I did every year, several times a year, until just before his death) I wore them too; now that Dad has died, I've inherited all of his military issue and post-military purchased BDU garb. They're great for outdoor activity. My favorite cold-weather coat is a WEP Dad gave me for Christmas the year before he died; good thing, because i refuse to wear his MA1 into harsh environments.

 

Thanx for 'splaining Rev!

[COLLEYBERRY]

Battle Dress Uniform; the camouflage uniform used, until recently, by the armed forces (and some law enforcement units) of the USA, readily available for purchase by civilians in Army surplus stores. The lady in Pipedreams pic is wearing what is known as the 'Woodland camouflage' pattern

 

 

What lady couldn't use a little 'Woodland camouflage' after dining on a cruise ship for any length of time :D

[IRL_Joanie]

Your answer is exactly what imho is the epitome of the problem. In my line of work I see many people who "do what they want" without any regard for the way it affects others, or what the "rules" are, or the potential consequences to themselves. In the past few years the number of younger people(in teens and 20's) who seem to think this way is increasing rapidly. It isnt a matter of "they should do what YOU want?", rather it is a simple matter of understanding that the words "suggested dress code" is a polite way of saying this is what you are expected to wear. But with the thought processes or lack thereof the subtlety seems to be missed on a number of people. Its as though if you dont hit people over the head with something nowadays they simply dont get it.

 

Sorry( I know Im going to trample into dangerous waters here but...) I blame the parents in many cases. The number of kids I see who have been given no parameters or direction by the parents is mind-boggling. They let their kids decide what they "want to do when they want to do it", and few if any social skills are taught. These are the same parents who then wonder why little Johnny or Janey is then in trouble for this or that and is completely incapable of following rules/laws/or any other societal expectation.

 

Is it really any wonder that people dont know how to dress, and say things like " I should be able to do what I want". Their entire life is based on just that !

 

I am by no means a conformist. I tend to do what I want to do probably far more than most. That said for me doing what I want to do in this situation would be very easy. If dh and I had an aversion to dressing up, I would simply choose a cruise line that didnt have those expectations. Originally, we were going to book Celebrity for our Alaska cruise. Then we found out about their restrictive smoking policies ie : cant smoke on your balcony. Since dh and I are still smokers we decided that that wouldnt work for us. It wouldnt have been fair or appropriate for us to book then go on board sneaking to smoke on our balcony(even though we would have been in a very large suite and probably could have gotten away with it). Checked with Silverseas and didnt like their itinerary...Ok so that wasnt for us either. NCL had a great itinerary but we couldnt get the particular suite we wanted(and had we gone on NCL we wouldnt have been dressing formally since it isnt in the suggested dress code :)RSSC, didnt have Alaska when we are going. Ok so that wasnt for us either. Booked with Royal but kept getting a run around from reservations about a number of things and decided that although we did enjoy our cruise with them we were totally unhappy with a number of things in the "service" end of both the booking and onboard that we needed to look elsewhere. So here we are. We are doing exactly what we want. We found a cruise that seemingly fits our plans, our style, our expectations ! Hopefully we'll be right. If not we will simply do what we want to do and book elsewhere next time. It isnt that hard to "do what you want to do" and still respect those around you so long as you find a good match when there are are plenty of options available .

 

 

THANK YOU!!! Exactly what I have wanted to say for weeks now!! But I did not have the guts:(

 

You are one of my heroes Luckybee!!!!!

[esther e]

A bit OT, but pertaining to parental "guidance," I would like to share a story of what my husband found a few years ago. He was at our clubhouse pool, talking to a member of the board of directors. A boy dove into the pool and the BD member told him not to because it wasn't allowed and pointed to the sign stating so. With that, the father got up from the chaise lounge he was reclining in and walked right in front of my husband and the BD member and dove into the pool. Let's count how many things the child learned that day! All the way from ignoring the rules to not conforming to authority. I often wonder what that child is up to these days.

[Copper10-8]

A bit OT, but pertaining to parental "guidance," I would like to share a story of what my husband found a few years ago. He was at our clubhouse pool, talking to a member of the board of directors. A boy dove into the pool and the BD member told him not to because it wasn't allowed and pointed to the sign stating so. With that, the father got up from the chaise lounge he was reclining in and walked right in front of my husband and the BD member and dove into the pool. Let's count how many things the child learned that day! All the way from ignoring the rules to not conforming to authority. I often wonder what that child is up to these days.

 

They live among us!:rolleyes:

[OhioLair]

All I gotta say is WOW! BDU gowns, nakedness and all! WOW!

 

I'll be in my tux formal nights, my jacket and tie the other nights... it's why we cruise HAL... . ... although last year on the Eurodam they were letting some (no disrespect intended to my European friends) eurotrash in the dining room in t-shirts and jeans when everyone else was dressed. Call it the "Carnivalization" of HAL, I just call it bad taste.

 

After dinner? Well, lets just say if you plan to be in public (clubs, casino, shows or the bar) why not stay dressed. Why waste all that good party time changing?

 

And after the fourth martini after midnight, clothing is optional... "unwritten rule" ;)

 

Have a HAL of a good time, go on a cruise!

 

Statendam Panama Canal Oct 09

Eurodam Innaugural 20 days Baltic summer 08

Oosterdam Alaska summer 07

Noordam (best so far) Eastern Med Summer 06

NCL Caribbean summer 05

Windjammer, Mexico/Caribbean summer 1998

Carnival Festivale, Caribbean summer 1980!

[dandro]

A bit OT, but pertaining to parental "guidance," I would like to share a story of what my husband found a few years ago. He was at our clubhouse pool, talking to a member of the board of directors. A boy dove into the pool and the BD member told him not to because it wasn't allowed and pointed to the sign stating so. With that, the father got up from the chaise lounge he was reclining in and walked right in front of my husband and the BD member and dove into the pool. Let's count how many things the child learned that day! All the way from ignoring the rules to not conforming to authority. I often wonder what that child is up to these days.

 

He's probably the teen we hired as a summer intern...wore his baggy ripped jeans half way down to his crotch with his boxers on display, showing up whenever he felt it, always calling with some story about car trouble or a doctors appointment or some such excuse for coming in late or not at all. I always wondered about his family life. Needless to say, we didn't keep him on very long.

 

Sorry to hijack...back to the subject. :)

[Luckybee]

THANK YOU!!! Exactly what I have wanted to say for weeks now!! But I did not have the guts:(

 

You are one of my heroes Luckybee!!!!!

 

Lol.......It's easier for me to post..........Im not round here much so I can post and run;)

[iancal]

Blame it all on the parents..huh???? We are in our mid fifties. Both DW and I come from conservative backgrounds & strict parents.

 

We both make a habit of changing into something more comfortable after dinner. Maybe deep down we both hated our respective parents and are in stages of rebellion. Yes, that must be it....it can be the only answer for such an atrocious display of anti social behavior.

[sandypaper]

Blame it all on the parents..huh???? We are in our mid fifties. Both DW and I come from conservative backgrounds & strict parents.

 

We both make a habit of changing into something more comfortable after dinner. Maybe deep down we both hated our respective parents and are in stages of rebellion. Yes, that must be it....it can be the only answer for such an atrocious display of anti social behavior.

 

 

LOL.....well said!