hartskys Posted October 8, 2010 #1 Share Posted October 8, 2010 :eek: I received a text this morning from my brother that's on the FOS right now. He said there was a "small" fire last night on the ship but didn't sound (reading between the lines) like it was anything too bad and also a person was injured enough (I don't think it was anything to do with the fire) that the captain announced they need blood donors as the situation was life threatening. They also hit rough seas and did not go to Grand Cayman due to the weather (45+ mph winds). They were in Cozumel when he text and said seas were still rough and my sister-in-law was not feeling well due to the motion of the ship. I only received this text and I don't know anymore information - Hoping someone that's live on the ship that may be on CC can inform us more.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caa419 Posted October 8, 2010 #2 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Wow, sounds like some people will have some stories to tell. I hope everyong is okay. Keep us posted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted October 8, 2010 #3 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Grand Cayman gets cancelled a lot because it's a tender port so that's not that unusual and not a big deal at all. I can't count the number of reviews/posts I've read talking about that port being cancelled. The fire is more unusual, but sounds like it wasn't a big deal. Did he say where the fire was? I wonder if it was a crewmember who was injured since some of them have jobs that are riskier than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Cruz Chic Posted October 8, 2010 #4 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Haven't head anything about this. Sounds extremely serious about blood donors and life threatening illness or injury. I will keep this person in my prayers. *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartskys Posted October 8, 2010 Author #5 Share Posted October 8, 2010 He didn't say where the fire was. :confused: If I hear anything else from him I will post. Still hoping someone will be on-line that is on the ship right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Bay Skiers Posted October 8, 2010 #6 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Sounds extremely serious about blood donors and life threatening illness or injury. I will keep this person in my prayers. *** I hope everything turns out OK. I'll keep this person in my prayers as well. Please keep us informed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LBumb Posted October 9, 2010 #7 Share Posted October 9, 2010 good luck to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionicman97 Posted October 9, 2010 #8 Share Posted October 9, 2010 A little off topic, but would they just take blood like that and use it? I imagine it would have to be screened, etc. Maybe they can do that on a ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted October 9, 2010 #9 Share Posted October 9, 2010 A little off topic, but would they just take blood like that and use it? I imagine it would have to be screened, etc. Maybe they can do that on a ship. Normally, no they wouldn't. I think they might only do that in dire circumstances. I've never heard of a ship's doctor asking for it either. Normally they would fly someone off. If they were that close to land, which apparently they were since they were supposedly near Grand Cayman, they should have done that. Since we haven't seen any other posts about this, we need to wait and see what actually happened. We've seen reports on here that turn out to not be exactly accurate because the individual on board heard bits and pieces or rumors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Cruz Chic Posted October 9, 2010 #10 Share Posted October 9, 2010 A little off topic, but would they just take blood like that and use it? I imagine it would have to be screened, etc. Maybe they can do that on a ship. Oh my I didn't think of that. Must be of a very dire situation. *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted October 9, 2010 #11 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Asking for blood donors..opens up a lot of liability issues for everyone involved...:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfcathorse Posted October 9, 2010 #12 Share Posted October 9, 2010 the Freedom class ships and higher have a kidney dialysis center on board. Perhaps they do have the equipment to separate the plasma from the platelets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz4natic Posted October 9, 2010 #13 Share Posted October 9, 2010 We were on the Oasis in May, and they needed two crew members to donate blood for a passenger. They didn't announce it, but a waiter we had gotten to know in a speciality restaurant told us, because we had asked about the helicopter evacuating passengers. Two people needed emergency evacuation, which they did from Ladadee within a couple hours of each other, but one was so critical that they asked crew members to donate blood. They flew both passengers to Miami, I believe. Scary situations on a vacation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted October 9, 2010 #14 Share Posted October 9, 2010 I would guess they could ask a crew member to donate because they know what their medical history is and have their medical records available. They probably are also required to be tested for certain diseases (HIV, etc) and innoculated against others (hepatitis, i.e., etc) on a regular basis so they wouldn't require screenings that take time to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misty57 Posted October 9, 2010 #15 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Hmmm... I would think that would be a long shot to actually request blood donors for immediate transfusion unless the ship was stranded or something. Does a ship's hospital really have the capability of doing blood screenings and would they not keep a small supply of O neg blood for the rare incident that would require it? I am very sceptical :eek:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TPKeller Posted October 9, 2010 #16 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Normally, no they wouldn't. I think they might only do that in dire circumstances. I've never heard of a ship's doctor asking for it either. Normally they would fly someone off. If they were that close to land, which apparently they were since they were supposedly near Grand Cayman, they should have done that. Since we haven't seen any other posts about this, we need to wait and see what actually happened. We've seen reports on here that turn out to not be exactly accurate because the individual on board heard bits and pieces or rumors. If it was too rough to tender into Grand Cayman, it could very well have been too rough to land a helo on deck. Theron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celle Posted October 9, 2010 #17 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Hmmm... I would think that would be a long shot to actually request blood donors for immediate transfusion unless the ship was stranded or something. Does a ship's hospital really have the capability of doing blood screenings and would they not keep a small supply of O neg blood for the rare incident that would require it? I am very sceptical :eek:. That question has been discussed on this thread: http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1281962&page=3 Posts #47-55 discuss blood transfusions and post #55 is particularly informative - it was written by someone who has worked as a doctor on cruise ships. Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipLondon Posted October 9, 2010 #18 Share Posted October 9, 2010 Not really the main problem when tendering is not possible, is the ability to safely get people from the tender onto the ship, that can mean just a small swell. Which would not effect a helicopter as the movement of the tender is the problem, not the movement of the ship. If it was too rough to tender into Grand Cayman, it could very well have been too rough to land a helo on deck. Theron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BND Posted October 9, 2010 #19 Share Posted October 9, 2010 If it was too rough to tender into Grand Cayman, it could very well have been too rough to land a helo on deck. Theron Ever seen them actually land a helicopter onboard? I haven't, because they don't actually land. They hover, lower a medical personnel and basket, load up the passenger and raise them back up and then raise the crewmember back up. The swells aren't an issue unless you're in a hurricane or something similar. Too rough to tender into Grand Cayman doesn't take much in the way of waves. It's much more dangerous to land a chopper on a moving ship (even one anchored) than it is to hover over the deck. That's really what the helicopter deck is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessyj1977 Posted October 10, 2010 #20 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Was on Mariner in June and definitely witnessed a helicopter land on our ship, shut the blades down and load someone on... It was very scary!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare TPKeller Posted October 10, 2010 #21 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Ever seen them actually land a helicopter onboard? I haven't, because they don't actually land. They hover, lower a medical personnel and basket, load up the passenger and raise them back up and then raise the crewmember back up. The swells aren't an issue unless you're in a hurricane or something similar. Too rough to tender into Grand Cayman doesn't take much in the way of waves. It's much more dangerous to land a chopper on a moving ship (even one anchored) than it is to hover over the deck. That's really what the helicopter deck is for. Hmm.. wonder why they went to the expense of making the break-away railings and retractable antenna/flag mast on the bow then? :rolleyes: Speaking in generalities is probably safe. Speaking in absolutes will usually ensure you are wrong from time to time... :) Theron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jd1966 Posted October 10, 2010 #22 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Ever seen them actually land a helicopter onboard? I haven't, because they don't actually land. They hover, lower a medical personnel and basket, load up the passenger and raise them back up and then raise the crewmember back up. The swells aren't an issue unless you're in a hurricane or something similar. Too rough to tender into Grand Cayman doesn't take much in the way of waves. It's much more dangerous to land a chopper on a moving ship (even one anchored) than it is to hover over the deck. That's really what the helicopter deck is for. Witnessed the Canadian Coast Guard/Navy land (twice) on the Jewel of the Seas off Nova Scotia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntornadox Posted October 10, 2010 #23 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Most ships do indeed have a 'hover zone' for helos, but Voyager + on RCI and X's M + classes have real helipads which are really used. Videos are on YouTube proving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Lionesss Posted October 10, 2010 #24 Share Posted October 10, 2010 When we sailed the Freedom of the Seas in July, a helicopter made a medical evacuation from the island of Labadee. When we were on a bridge tour that sailing and the captain asked if we had any questions we asked "How can a helicopter land on the Helipad with all those cables, is that why it landed on Labadee"? The captain told us that it would take about 30 min. to prepare the helipad for a helicopter landing. However most times if they are close to a port or docked they will land the helicopter on shore. However with so many variables such as wind, ship movement, frequently a rescue stretcher will lift up the patient. The helicopter will not land. However it has landed on the Freedom on various occasions. He told us the helicopter that landed at Labadee was for a passenger who was having chest pain in there cabin and the medical staff wanted further medical attention than the ship could provide. . . so they air-lifted them out. It happenned in the afternoon, and the authorities closed down the dock not letting passengers back on the ship till it took off. Safe travels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkySailing Posted October 10, 2010 #25 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Of course they can land on a ship. I've seen it done so many times in the movies and the T.V. show Whale Wars :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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